Beast Posted June 16 Posted June 16 https://www.foxnews.com/us/rachel-morin-murder-illegal-immigrant-from-el-salvador-charged-rape-killing-maryland-mom-5 January, and Trump taking over, can’t get here quick enough. 1 1
Scraps Posted June 16 Posted June 16 Could have already passed the toughest border bill in decades but convicted felon Donald Trump wanted the issue more than he wanted yo protect the U.S. 1 3 1
phypon Posted June 16 Posted June 16 4 minutes ago, Scraps said: Could have already passed the toughest border bill in decades but convicted felon Donald Trump wanted the issue more than he wanted yo protect the U.S. This makes zero sense since Trump was building the wall when he was in office. When Biden came in, Biden took down parts of the wall, sold the materials for the wall for pennies on the dollar, and offered an open invite to caravans of illegal immigrants. You're totally fu*king delusional if you believe what you wrote. Keep watching Rachael Madcow. Trump is gonna getcha... 2 1 1
SCBills Posted June 16 Posted June 16 5 minutes ago, Scraps said: Could have already passed the toughest border bill in decades but convicted felon Donald Trump wanted the issue more than he wanted yo protect the U.S. That bill codifies thousands of illegal border crossings per day. That bill was a joke and Trump was correct in his actions. Biden could’ve simply gone back to Trump era policy at anytime. He chose not to and is now panicking. 2 4
PetermansRedemption Posted June 16 Posted June 16 (edited) 4 hours ago, Scraps said: Could have already passed the toughest border bill in decades but convicted felon Donald Trump wanted the issue more than he wanted yo protect the U.S. That bill was exceptionally weak. We will need something far stronger in the near future. Hopefully it can be worked. Edited June 16 by PetermansRedemption
4th&long Posted June 16 Posted June 16 9 people shot at a splash pad in Rochester hills Michigan, 8 year old boy shot in the head 4 year old shot. 2 people killed in Austin Texas. You post this? Everyone knows something needs to be done about the border but American citizens are doing just fine at committing crimes, killing and raping and stealing. thank God the Supreme Court lifted the ban on bump stocks! That will solve everything!
BillsFanNC Posted June 16 Posted June 16 8 hours ago, SCBills said: That bill codifies thousands of illegal border crossings per day. That bill was a joke and Trump was correct in his actions. Biden could’ve simply gone back to Trump era policy at anytime. He chose not to and is now panicking. Yup. Obama's own DHS secretary called 1000 crossings per day crisis level. We have been well above that for most of the Buden administration. Yet useful idiots swallowed whole the talking point that it was the Republicans fault for rejecting a border bill that would have normalized crossings well in excess of crisis level of 1000 per day. How about striving for getting ILLEGAL ALIEN crossings to friggin zero per day?
SCBills Posted June 16 Posted June 16 43 minutes ago, 4th&long said: 9 people shot at a splash pad in Rochester hills Michigan, 8 year old boy shot in the head 4 year old shot. 2 people killed in Austin Texas. You post this? Everyone knows something needs to be done about the border but American citizens are doing just fine at committing crimes, killing and raping and stealing. thank God the Supreme Court lifted the ban on bump stocks! That will solve everything! We do have to deal with home grown crime. Doesnt mean we need to willingly import more of it. Just this week we’ve had an illegal charged with the rape & murder of a mother of 5 and multiple terrorists arrested after being vetted and allowed into the county. You want to grapple with gun control, go ahead.. we can have that conversation (although I doubt it will be in good faith with your “bump stock” comment.. however we also have the 2nd Amendment. We don’t have any amendments that require us to import crime and a welfare state. 1
ChiGoose Posted June 16 Posted June 16 51 minutes ago, 4th&long said: 9 people shot at a splash pad in Rochester hills Michigan, 8 year old boy shot in the head 4 year old shot. 2 people killed in Austin Texas. You post this? Everyone knows something needs to be done about the border but American citizens are doing just fine at committing crimes, killing and raping and stealing. thank God the Supreme Court lifted the ban on bump stocks! That will solve everything! The GOP does not want to solve the border problem. When in power, their proposal was an expensive and dumb wall that was never going to work. Then, the Dems let them craft an immigration bill in exchange for support to Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan but they tanked it when they realized it might actually work. They want border chaos because it helps them political and they can continue to push the lie that illegal immigrants increase crime. All they do is find an “other” to scapegoat because they do not actually solve any problems. Immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than U.S.-born Americans, studies find 1 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted June 16 Posted June 16 7 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: The GOP does not want to solve the border problem. When in power, their proposal was an expensive and dumb wall that was never going to work. Then, the Dems let them craft an immigration bill in exchange for support to Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan but they tanked it when they realized it might actually work. They want border chaos because it helps them political and they can continue to push the lie that illegal immigrants increase crime. All they do is find an “other” to scapegoat because they do not actually solve any problems. Immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than U.S.-born Americans, studies find Biden's 100% responsible for the current mess at the border. It started on day-one of his administration. Revoking actions like "Stay in Mexico". He owns it. To suggest otherwise is to ignore reality. 2 1
Tommy Callahan Posted June 16 Posted June 16 1 hour ago, 4th&long said: 9 people shot at a splash pad in Rochester hills Michigan, 8 year old boy shot in the head 4 year old shot. 2 people killed in Austin Texas. You post this? Everyone knows something needs to be done about the border but American citizens are doing just fine at committing crimes, killing and raping and stealing. thank God the Supreme Court lifted the ban on bump stocks! That will solve everything! Mostly in Dem strongholds with Dem DA's. Why.
ChiGoose Posted June 16 Posted June 16 17 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Biden's 100% responsible for the current mess at the border. It started on day-one of his administration. Revoking actions like "Stay in Mexico". He owns it. To suggest otherwise is to ignore reality. Remember when Biden said he’d accept the Lankford immigration bill but the GOP reneged because they realized it would help the border? The GOP owns that. Deep down, you know they don’t want to solve the border crises. It’s too good an issue for them. 1 1
SCBills Posted June 16 Posted June 16 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Remember when Biden said he’d accept the Lankford immigration bill but the GOP reneged because they realized it would help the border? The GOP owns that. Deep down, you know they don’t want to solve the border crises. It’s too good an issue for them. That bill was already addressed in this thread. It was a joke. I don’t disagree that the GOP doesn’t have any urgency to help Biden do anything on this issue …. but they should let him flail. He had 3+ years to go back to Trump’s border policy and instead inundated our county with pseudo-open borders. He owns it now. What his administration has done is deliberate. He’s failed Americans in his duty to protect our borders. People like myself, who have never viewed border/immigration as a big political issue now see this as THE issue. We see what’s happened in parts of Europe who have lost any semblance of their former culture and we don’t want it happening here. We don’t want fentanyl, terrorism and a welfare state streaming across the border with tacit approval from our leaders. And yall messsed up because you throught Hispanics would vibe with this policy. Turns out … they don’t. The ones who have come here and obtained legal status moved here to live in a country. Not a dumpster fire absent a border. Edited June 16 by SCBills 1
ChiGoose Posted June 16 Posted June 16 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: That bill was already addressed in this thread. It was a joke. I don’t disagree that the GOP doesn’t have any urgency to help Biden do anything on this issue …. but they should let him flail. He had 3+ years to go back to Trump’s border policy and instead inundated our county with pseudo-open borders. He owns it now. What his administration has done is deliberate. He’s failed Americans in his duty to protect our borders. People like myself, who have never viewed border/immigration as a big political issue now see this as THE issue. We see what’s happened in parts of Europe who have lost any semblance of their former culture and we don’t want it happening here. We don’t want fentanyl, terrorism and a welfare state streaming across the border with tacit approval from our leaders. And yall messsed up because you throught Hispanics would vibe with this policy. Turns out … they don’t. The ones who have come here and obtained legal status moved here to live in a country. Not a dumpster fire absent a border. Unlike the border wall, which is dumb, the Lankford bill would have actually significantly reduced illegal immigration and helped fix the border. No bill is perfect but that one was so conservative that the Dems would never have voted for it but for the linkage to fighting back against Hamas, Russia, and China. You can find any reason not to support a bill, because they are vehicles of compromise. It takes an adult to admit that it’s not perfect but it’s better than the status quo. But the bottom line is the GOP had a chance to improve the border situation and they didn’t want to do it because they want the chaos. 1
JaCrispy Posted June 16 Posted June 16 10 hours ago, Scraps said: Could have already passed the toughest border bill in decades but convicted felon Donald Trump wanted the issue more than he wanted yo protect the U.S. That bill was fake news…In the fine print it still wanted to allow up to 5000 illegals into the country per day…And the extra funds slotted for border patrol wasn’t to help them in keeping illegals out, but to help them process them quicker, so that they could get settled into the country easier, without as much congestion at the border… Thats the real reason Trump was against it…The name of the bill was deceiving, and would have made Biden look like he was doing something even though he wasn’t- and in some ways was making the problem even worse…And we know Biden didn’t really want to fix the problem because, the whole time he was complaining there was nothing he could do without congress, and now, after 4 years, he’s signing executive actions because the situation has gotten so bad…LOL… What a terrible president…Anyone voting for him is being controlled by their emotions instead of sucking it up, plugging your nose, and voting the guy that actually runs the country better…👍
Scraps Posted June 16 Posted June 16 5 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: That bill was fake news…In the fine print it still wanted to allow up to 5000 illegals into the country per day…And the extra funds slotted for border patrol wasn’t to help them in keeping illegals out, but to help them process them quicker, so that they could get settled into the country easier, without as much congestion at the border… Thats the real reason Trump was against it…The name of the bill was deceiving, and would have made Biden look like he was doing something even though he wasn’t- and in some ways was making the problem even worse…And we know Biden didn’t really want to fix the problem because, the whole time he was complaining there was nothing he could do without congress, and now, after 4 years, he’s signing executive actions because the situation has gotten so bad…LOL… What a terrible president…Anyone voting for him is being controlled by their emotions instead of sucking it up, plugging your nose, and voting the guy that actually runs the country better…👍 Most asylum seekers are denied in their claim. Shortening their time in this country to 90 days instead of several years would be a good thing. Trump didn't adequately address the issue even when he had a Republican House and Senate. He wants the issue, not the solution. If you though the bill was weak, wouldn't it have been better to pass the bill and pass a stronger bill once Trump took office? Letting this problem fester for an election issue shows that Trump and Republicans don't want what is best for our country, they want what is best for themselves. All they care about is keeping their power.
BillsFanNC Posted June 16 Posted June 16 The King parroting its masters narrative that this is all republicans fault? Im.shocked.
aristocrat Posted June 16 Posted June 16 2 hours ago, ChiGoose said: The GOP does not want to solve the border problem. When in power, their proposal was an expensive and dumb wall that was never going to work. Then, the Dems let them craft an immigration bill in exchange for support to Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan but they tanked it when they realized it might actually work. They want border chaos because it helps them political and they can continue to push the lie that illegal immigrants increase crime. All they do is find an “other” to scapegoat because they do not actually solve any problems. Immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than U.S.-born Americans, studies find Remember when any border policy trump proposed was considered racist? The dems fought him in every policy. Then Biden removed all trumps policies day one and created the current crisis. You don’t get to create a worse situation and then blame the gop for not fixing the problem lol. Biden needs and should own creating the crisis
JaCrispy Posted June 16 Posted June 16 24 minutes ago, Scraps said: Most asylum seekers are denied in their claim. Shortening their time in this country to 90 days instead of several years would be a good thing. Trump didn't adequately address the issue even when he had a Republican House and Senate. He wants the issue, not the solution. If you though the bill was weak, wouldn't it have been better to pass the bill and pass a stronger bill once Trump took office? Letting this problem fester for an election issue shows that Trump and Republicans don't want what is best for our country, they want what is best for themselves. All they care about is keeping their power. Trumps policy may not have been perfect, as illegals were still coming in… However, Biden’s policies were either straight incompetence or, worse, willful compliance… Either way, Biden’s policies increased illegal immigration 3 times that of Trump…And that’s just an undeniable fact…
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