dollars 2 donuts Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Add a few years and put Josh at 100 million per. Yes, it will destroy our Super Bowl hopes and it may even destroy the organization, but I’ll be damned if I’m going to sit around any longer and not have the highest paid QB in the League. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 I believe Josh is now the 12th highest paid QB in league, so I hope we have a plan to get this done sooner. The top three QBs in pay are currently below 500 combined, so what is Josh worth now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 4 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Add a few years and put Josh at 100 million per. Yes, it will destroy our Super Bowl hopes and it may even destroy the organization, but I’ll be damned if I’m going to sit around any longer and not have the highest paid QB in the League. We should add a clause to his K that states it will be torn up and re-done after every other QB signs a deal, to ensure he remains #1 in perpetuity…Terry, time to start fracking again!!! 🤩💰 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 12 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Jordan Love - 21.5 % of the cap at signing Tua - 20.7 % of the cap at signing Allen - 23.5% of the cap at signing Allen at the same rate would get $60 million AAV. But he will probably get or top Burrow’s rate of 24%. Plus he won’t sign a new deal until at least next year. As I pointed out earlier, Allen will get around $65 million AAV when he signs his next deal. Can’t look at a contract signed today and compare it to one signed 3-4 years later. Not in the NFL with the cap always rising. I agree with your premise about the % of cap at signing and the dollar cost of the contract. One thing that is different is Josh Allen signed during the cap decrease due to the Covid issues in the NFL. If the cap went up instead of down his % would be a good bit lower at signing. The other thing that makes Josh's contract better is the 6-year length instead of the "now normal" 5 year for franchise QBs. For those wondering, Tua's 4-year contract is no doubt due to his health risks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 9 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I agree with your premise about the % of cap at signing and the dollar cost of the contract. One thing that is different is Josh Allen signed during the cap decrease due to the Covid issues in the NFL. If the cap went up instead of down his % would be a good bit lower at signing. The other thing that makes Josh's contract better is the 6-year length instead of the "now normal" 5 year for franchise QBs. For those wondering, Tua's 4-year contract is no doubt due to his health risks. Doubt it. He just would’ve gotten more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 36 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Doubt it. He just would’ve gotten more money. I think you are missing my point. You quoted Allen in the 23% and others around 20%, that's the "difference" I'm talking about. GMs owners and agents also knew that the Covid was just a "glitch" in the cap increases. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I think you are missing my point. You quoted Allen in the 23% and others around 20%, that's the "difference" I'm talking about. GMs owners and agents also knew that the Covid was just a "glitch" in the cap increases. Mahomes got 22.7%. Allen signed next. Mahomes, Allen, and Burrow are the 3 QB’s to set the market. Each one got more than the other. Edited July 27 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 8 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Mahomes got 22.7%. Allen signed next. I'll just leave it at this. If Josh signed for $43M in 2021 and the cap went up $10M instead of down $15M his % of cap would of been 20.5% instead of 23.5%. That's all I'm trying to say. The math doesn't lie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 41 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I'll just leave it at this. If Josh signed for $43M in 2021 and the cap went up $10M instead of down $15M his % of cap would of been 20.5% instead of 23.5%. That's all I'm trying to say. The math doesn't lie. Why would he take less? That doesn’t make any sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 33 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Why would he take less? That doesn’t make any sense. His AAV is $43M Using percentage of cap at signing in the one year the salary cap actually decreased due to COVID is nonsense 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Patrick Mahomes is unanimously considered the best Quarterback in the NFL. And some say he's on the way to being the best ever. He is currently the 11th highest paid at the position, and he was extended a year before Josh Allen. The Bills shouldn't even worry about Allen's contract until after the Chiefs make a move. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 (edited) 2 hours ago, GoBills808 said: His AAV is $43M Using percentage of cap at signing in the one year the salary cap actually decreased due to COVID is nonsense He would’ve gotten more than $43 million without the decrease in revenue that year. Edited July 27 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 8 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: He would’ve got more than $43 million without the decrease in revenue that year. Nah that's just a guess What we know is he took two million less/yr than top of the market at the time in exchange for most guaranteed money It was a bargain then and now, using % of cap at signing to prove otherwise is very disingenuous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 2 hours ago, mjt328 said: Patrick Mahomes is unanimously considered the best Quarterback in the NFL. And some say he's on the way to being the best ever. He is currently the 11th highest paid at the position, and he was extended a year before Josh Allen. The Bills shouldn't even worry about Allen's contract until after the Chiefs make a move. They already did last year guaranteeing him 210.6 million over the next four seasons. ('23 through '26). The Bills could follow a similar blueprint. https://www.nfl.com/news/chiefs-qb-patrick-mahomes-agrees-to-terms-on-restructured-contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 (edited) 36 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Nah that's just a guess What we know is he took two million less/yr than top of the market at the time in exchange for most guaranteed money It was a bargain then and now, using % of cap at signing to prove otherwise is very disingenuous It’s definitely a bargain. You’re looking at it the wrong way. It’s a bargain because of the drop in revenue. Kyler Murray got $46 million the next season. The Bills got a little lucky. There was a lot of uncertainty about the cap in 2021. Allen could’ve risked it and played out the year. He probably gets close to $50 million if he does that. Russell Wilson got $49 million. Rodgers got $50 million. That’s where Allen would’ve been. Edited July 27 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 6 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: We should add a clause to his K that states it will be torn up and re-done after every other QB signs a deal, to ensure he remains #1 in perpetuity…Terry, time to start fracking again!!! 🤩💰 I believe the owners banned that after the Packer did it with Sterling Sharpe. https://www.deseret.com/1994/9/16/19131074/sharpe-catches-top-pay-as-receiver/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/recent-deals-make-josh-allens-contract-age-poorly This is a hilarious reframe, Joshs contract makes the Bills look "poorly" because they refuse to pay him. They guaranteed him a quarter billion but they look cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 https://www.spotrac.com/news/_/id/2418/josh-allen-is-underpaid-now-what Spotrac takes a look at Allen’s current contract and gives some predictions about what might be done with it. TL:DR - Allen is underpaid by NFL QB standards for where he ranks among them. But he still has 4 years left on his deal so it probably won’t be torn up. Most likely scenario is that the Bills adjust his current deal to bring some cash forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 According to the NFL he’s only the 12th best player. That should give us some kind of discount, right? 😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 The Bank of Josh keeps rolling down the road….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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