Dubie54 Posted June 13 Posted June 13 Time to move on from Bass. We have to have a reliable pk if we want to compete. The problem the Bills have at this point is finding someone. For what we are paying him it’s a joke he’s not a stud kicker. Quote
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted June 13 Posted June 13 If he's still missing kicks in camp then cut him. He's got a month or so to get his ***** together. Quote
Pete Posted June 13 Posted June 13 (edited) Last season later in year, you saw Bass lost confidence just by looking at body posture and facial expressions. Bass has the Yips. I’m not aware of any success stories once a player suffered from Yips in any sport Edited June 13 by Pete Quote
FireChans Posted June 13 Posted June 13 58 minutes ago, brianthomas said: Since Bass's issues appear largely psychological, i imagine Beane didn't bring in any competition so as to not make Bass more of a headcase about his status with the team. Sort of like a GM with a QB who doesn't bring in any QB to compete with them. I dont agree with it, as these players are supposed to be professionals & used to competition their whole life. Beane's comments on having guys push others runs counter to this with Bass. There's just no reason not to bring someone in, unless you're 100% confident Bass can regain it, which you should never be. Cutting Bass saves us $100k on the season. Factoring in signing a new kicker, I doubt he's going anywhere this season unless he's horrific in TC. 1 Quote
billsfan89 Posted June 13 Posted June 13 1 hour ago, bobobonators said: Kickers are complete head cases for the most part. Kickers lose confidence so quickly. It’s so frequent that once a kicker has a bad stretch that’s it they are done. Maybe they can regain confidence on a new team but it’s almost impossible one has as bad a stretch as Bass had in the end of the regular season and Playoffs and bounces back on the same team. Quote
Mark Vader Posted June 13 Posted June 13 14 hours ago, GoBills808 said: Never understood that nickname tbh He's never been in the top10 of fg% Bass is an objectively mediocre placekicker Not really. He's money when it comes to Extra Points. Which makes things even more strange. Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted June 13 Posted June 13 Get Bass on a plane to London with some attractive flight attendants, that will surely help him get his confidence back. 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted June 13 Posted June 13 I wasn’t prepared to totally write him off after the struggles began last year, I was willing to see if he could bounce back this year. But to see the struggles showing up again this early makes me concerned. I mean he’s a kicker, there is no long ramp up to get to midseason form, he shouldn’t still have the shanks. The good news is that it’s easy to replace a kicker on short notice, not like they have to his complex playbook to learn. So I would bet money that if he’s still missing kicks in preseason that we will have someone else brought in to push for his job before week 1 gets here. 2 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted June 13 Posted June 13 Wait…..I thought it was his holder?!!? read it right here Quote
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted June 13 Posted June 13 1 hour ago, Pete said: Last season later in year, you saw Bass lost confidence just by looking at body posture and facial expressions. Bass has the Yips. I’m not aware of any success stories once a player suffered from Yips in any sport Yip Trundleberry, where the term "yips" began. World class in darts, 1930's or so. Couldn't come close to the board, hit several bystanders in big tournaments. Dies of a massive stroke brought on from all the drugs he turned to. Hopefully Bass gets it together before he suffers the same fate. 1 Quote
TheFunPolice Posted June 13 Posted June 13 kickers and goalies are proof of the power of psychology in sports. He was once called "Bassomatic" and now it's 50/50 whether he'll make a routine kick. Nothing physically changed. It's not like he forgot how to kick. Quote
msw2112 Posted June 13 Posted June 13 1 hour ago, billsfan89 said: Kickers lose confidence so quickly. It’s so frequent that once a kicker has a bad stretch that’s it they are done. Maybe they can regain confidence on a new team but it’s almost impossible one has as bad a stretch as Bass had in the end of the regular season and Playoffs and bounces back on the same team. For the most part, I agree with this. Some kickers do have bad stretches or even bad seasons and come back fine with the same team, but in many cases, once they lose the mental part of their game, they're done with their current team. These guys often resurface with new teams, starting over, and sometimes return to form. I guess we'll see how Bass does in camp. I don't know if it's the holder or not, but maybe if they decide to go with the rookie punter from SDSU over Martin, that will help Bass. I do think that if the Bills release Bass, he will eventually resurface and have a decent career with another team, but that doesn't mean the Bills should keep him if his mental game with the Bills is gone. Quote
Bookie Man Posted June 13 Posted June 13 Finished super rocky last season. Didn't even feel good about his XPs. They were always slicing/hooking. Anything above 40 yards felt like 50/50. Seems like he started of the season decently. I would be curious on his percentage on his last 20 attempts. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted June 13 Posted June 13 6 hours ago, JerseyBills said: pretty sure he finished 1 year 3rd in % n has huge leg He does have a big leg but the highest he has ever finished and field goal percentage was 14th Quote
JohnNord Posted June 13 Posted June 13 16 hours ago, Steve Billieve said: Should have cut bait half way through last season. Inexcusable they haven't at least brought in some decent competition. He was unreliable toward the end of last season but not a compete train wreck. It would have been a drastic move to cut him in the middle of the year. Bass is in the as Diggs was. Signed to an extension at an in opportune time. The reason they aren’t bringing in completion is his contract. They are looking at a $4M dead cap hit on a kicker, on top of an already bad cap year. They are going to give him every chance to succeed before making moves. My concern is that once kickers start to get shaky, it doesn’t seem like they are able to regain their old form. 4 hours ago, billsfan89 said: Bills should have another kicker in camp. Maybe bring in a UFL player or something they can’t go in with just Bass it’s far too risky They actually have a kicker on the team in Jack Browning who kicked and punted in college Quote
Buffalo716 Posted June 13 Posted June 13 3 hours ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: It's a relationship based on trust. It's not that hard to fathom that the timing/trust isn't there with certain kickers/holders. "Nuh uh" 🤣 that's some sandbox/back of the school bus *****. If bass keeps getting to use the holders as an excuse he's going to lose a lot more games for us lol He's a professional kicker... And everybody holding for him has been holding for kickers... Last year people called Sam Martin an amazing holder when we got him Tyler bass crapped the bed Quote
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted June 13 Posted June 13 42 minutes ago, Bookie Man said: Finished super rocky last season. Didn't even feel good about his XPs. They were always slicing/hooking. Anything above 40 yards felt like 50/50. Seems like he started of the season decently. I would be curious on his percentage on his last 20 attempts. Started the year 9/9. Then he missed 2 FG (a 52 and 53 yarder) against the Giants in week 6 which very nearly cost us the game. McD lost faith in him after that and chose to punt instead of attempt 50+ yard FGs multiple times. After the 9/9 start Bass went 15/20 in the regular season and a mind boggling 2/5 in the playoffs. I think he would've already been released by now if it weren't for the ridiculous contract Beane gave him. 1 Quote
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