Ten Years Since Ralph The Good, The Bad, The Weird...?

[Kornfed]

The fans have always been intense here...... the difference is that the instant info age didn't exist in the 90's..... LET'S GET CRAZIER ... GO BILLS

[BobbyC81]

Here’s another weird Rex moment:  I believe it was a game in Kansas City.  There was an obvious bad call by the refs in KC’s favor and Rex didn’t challenge it.   Asked about it after the game, Rex explained “they didn’t show the replay on the big board”.

 

Following that embarrassment, Pegula and company obviously got on Rex to make sure that didn’t happen again.

[Bermuda Triangle]

2 hours ago, BobbyC81 said:

Here’s another weird Rex moment:  I believe it was a game in Kansas City.  There was an obvious bad call by the refs in KC’s favor and Rex didn’t challenge it.   Asked about it after the game, Rex explained “they didn’t show the replay on the big board”.

 

Following that embarrassment, Pegula and company obviously got on Rex to make sure that didn’t happen again.

Wasn’t there some chatter about the Team Chaplain - who used to be on the sideline during games - being involved in advising Ryan on replay challenges?  

[Matt_In_NH]

16 hours ago, 14774 said:

Toronto 

File under Bad and super weird

[holla83]

Toronto and the stadium naming rights always went hand in hand for me. On one hand we had to listen to Ralph and Russ Brandon whine about Buffalo being a small market and how selling a home game to Toronto was necessary to expand the fan base and create more revenue. On the other hand, they completely ignored a huge revenue stream by not selling the naming rights of the stadium for over 15 years. That has always infuriated me.

[Dan]

17 hours ago, Logic said:

Absolutely.

It's easy to sit here in hindsight and say that it was an awful idea to hire Rex.

The reality of the situation is that there was some real merit to the notion. Rex Ryan had led the Jets to two straight seasons where they won back-to-back road playoff games and qualified for AFC Championship games. He routinely beat the Tom Brady Patriots in both the regular season and the playoffs. He brought a swagger and a national interest to the Bills that had been sorely lacking for a very long time. 

We all know how it wound up playing out. It was clear from day one that he lacked the discipline needed to continue to be a successful NFL head coach, and it showed in the sloppy, undisciplined, brain fart riddled play of his defense. Aside from that, I think that NFL offense just evolved past his defensive schemes and he had no real answers.

Anyway, no matter how cynical anyone can be now with 20/20 hindsight, I'd be willing to be that every single one of us were excited when he was sitting at the Big Tree with Jim Kelly and eating wings and talking big things to come.

Alas, we now seem to have the diametric opposite of Rex Ryan as our head coach, both in terms of personality and coaching style, and in terms of the type of defense he employs.

I can honestly say the Rex hire was my low point.  I called my sister that day and said you might as well cancel your Sunday Ticket, because we’re going to suck for 3 years until he’s fired.  Fortunately, it didn’t take that long.  The day he left was the day I had hope, again, that we would win the Super Bowl. The game had passed him by, yet he carried himself as if he had won a dozen SBs.  
 

To the weird category, I would like to suggest the fact that it was Tyrod Taylor at QB that ended the drought as being right up there with the weirdest. 
 

The good, for me, starts and ends with Josh.  I still can’t believe sometimes we drafted him and he developed into the player that he is.   
 

For the bad, I’d like to just add the Roger Goodell and every thing he has done to grow the league and make money is horrible for fans. And why does the league seem to hate Buffalo and screw the team repeatedly?  I guess that’s a rhetorical question more than anything.  
 

Back on point, Rex sucked. LOL.  I guess it is true, it is darkest just before the dawn. 
 

 

 

[muppy]

16 hours ago, mannc said:

To the weird category, I would add the Kim Pegula health saga and the way it has been handled by the franchise.  

greetings. Health issues are a thing that we all can empathise with when it is a family member or even yourself to a certain extent

 

Her families request for privacy I think is understandable. But we fans who wanted the best for her and hearing nothing was in its own way painful. For us

 

But to them I think they were trying to take the path of less resistance and keep it private. Once we did find out what happened was as bad as many feared sucked.

 

God Bless Kim Pegula

 

 

[corta765]

7 hours ago, Kornfed said:

The fans have always been intense here...... the difference is that the instant info age didn't exist in the 90's..... LET'S GET CRAZIER ... GO BILLS

 

Don't disagree but somewhere around 2014-15 the viral piece exploded and for a good 3-4 years it really felt like a competition of how close someone could get to killing themselves  lol

4 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

File under Bad and super weird

Toronto was over by 2014 which is why I did not include it. Otherwise yea it would've been bad and weird especially the halftime show featuring the Gangdum Style dude

1 hour ago, Dan said:

I can honestly say the Rex hire was my low point.  I called my sister that day and said you might as well cancel your Sunday Ticket, because we’re going to suck for 3 years until he’s fired.  Fortunately, it didn’t take that long.  The day he left was the day I had hope, again, that we would win the Super Bowl. The game had passed him by, yet he carried himself as if he had won a dozen SBs.  
 

To the weird category, I would like to suggest the fact that it was Tyrod Taylor at QB that ended the drought as being right up there with the weirdest. 
 

The good, for me, starts and ends with Josh.  I still can’t believe sometimes we drafted him and he developed into the player that he is.   
 

For the bad, I’d like to just add the Roger Goodell and every thing he has done to grow the league and make money is horrible for fans. And why does the league seem to hate Buffalo and screw the team repeatedly?  I guess that’s a rhetorical question more than anything.  
 

Back on point, Rex sucked. LOL.  I guess it is true, it is darkest just before the dawn. 

 

What exactly makes you feel this way specifically about Buffalo? I would say that in general most NFL fans especially in die hard markets like Buffalo feel this way.

 

If I were to do an NFL version of this I would say that the levels the league has now gotten to in the interest of growing the game and increased revenues are very bad and not fan friendly.

[Niagara Bill]

Loved Ralph and thanked him for making our Bills a Buffalo symbol.

Will always remember Jim K retirement presentation. 

Ralph trying to make a speech, stumbling as only Ralph could, after stumbling to the point of the gift, then he announced they were giving Jim "a black truck" because he could not remember what to say. 

Great Great memories of Ralph.

[Ned Flanders]

35 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Loved Ralph and thanked him for making our Bills a Buffalo symbol.

Will always remember Jim K retirement presentation. 

Ralph trying to make a speech, stumbling as only Ralph could, after stumbling to the point of the gift, then he announced they were giving Jim "a black truck" because he could not remember what to say. 

Great Great memories of Ralph.

Ralph is cheap

[corta765]

42 minutes ago, Ned Flanders said:

Ralph is cheap

Ralph was cheap in the worst ways. He would pay players and especially after the 90s teams I think he understood how important it was to treat them right. The problem was the coaches and facility wise he did not pay very well and as the league evolved it caught him hard. He was one of the originals and a very solid businessman, the team was his best business and he helped develop the team with the league in a huge way. I think he was truthfully a better steward for the league then he was an owner of the Bills, but he was also part of the original guard with Al Davis and you could see the game passed him the last decade or so which caught the Bills hard. He was very stubborn which hurt as the league morphed into owners being less involved and just writing checks instead. I think he would admit if he had a redo he would've spent more on coaches/facilities and had a better succession plan from 2000 on as that all together made Buffalo very uncompetitive from the mid 2000s until 2014 when the Pegula's arrived.

Edited June 13 by corta765

[Freddie's Dead]

The Good - 2011 was magical.  Cardiac win over the Raiders, followed by Fitz and Fred defeating the mighty Cheats at the Ralph.  Never forget Fred taking that screen to the 1 inch line, allowing us to run out the clock while the Cheats tried every dirty cheatin' trick in the book to get us out of FG range.  Fred was the MVP of the NFL.  Until....

 

The Bad - Fred's broken leg essentially ended the Bills 2011 dream season.  Fitz tried to be Superman, but he'd reached his ceiling.  The Bills O went into the crapper without Fred.  Ah, what might have been.

 

Third and puss.  Most gutless play in Bills history.  I know Fitz was two years gone, but he would have sold out for that first down.  

 

The Weird - Fitz going shirtless at our freezing cold home playoff game.  Arguably the most hirsute man in the history of the NFL.

 

Oops...  almost forgot one.  No list of Fitz's Bills accomplishments would be complete without Fitz's Fred Jackson Roast speech.

 

 

 

Edited June 13 by Freddie's Dead

[JohnNord]

On 6/12/2024 at 11:39 AM, corta765 said:

I got to thinking that we are closing out the tenth year since Ralph passed and the Bills were bought by the Pegulas. Many many changes have happened so figured it would be fun to chronicle and look back as a group.

 

The Good

• The team ending the drought. It hung like a dark cloud forever and then in the most unlikely of seasons as the team was clearly in transition lightning struck and it ended in the best of fashion. The 2017 season will hold a special place to me as a fan after going through the drought and attending so many games in that period. 
• Josh Allen being draft AND developed AND then turning into a demi god of a QB that even Chief fans fear. The fact the Bills actually did their homework and drafted a QB was cool. The fact they helped to properly develop him was honestly surprising. The fact this QB then worked to become the player he is now is truly stunning and something I will never take for granted.
• Division titles, playoff wins, and the team turning into a perennial contender. I get it the SB win and ring is needed, but it has been awesome the last bunch of years in this time and plenty of memorable games and moments
• The 2020 season. For those of us who were little dudes/dudettes or not born during the 90s run the idea of playing to make a SB and the energy excitement leading up to it was something we never got. 2020 was a dream season despite not being able to see it in person and after they beat BAL it was pretty surreal to know they actually were that close. Sucks they didn't close but for a lot of us it was that first feeling of "oh wow this is awesome and completely different".
• Pegula's ownership and commitment to the team. Overall they have invested heavily in the team and facilities which constantly get rave reviews from players. The brand of the team is as strong as it ever has been which just feels other worldly. Ralph was fine and a good owner but the team was long in the tooth when the Pegula's took over just in terms of brand and being a 21st century team. They also have stayed the heck away from the team in terms of football decision for a while now other then writing checks which is all that is needed
• The evolution of Bills Mafia to something nationally that has a real vibe and connection across the board. Winning helps of course, but it does feel like the fanbase has evolved and widen which is awesome.
• New Stadium. Whether it ended up being a reno or a new stadium something was needed for the long term and it is nice this is done.
• LeSean McCoy. Major shout out to him as he was just a great player to watch in his time here and was a huge reason for the drought going away.
• McBeane. All they've done is stabilize the team and turn them into a consistent winner.
• Helping to accelerate the Patriots decline. This was quite fun to see happen and put them down.
• Kyle Williams getting to go to playoffs.
• Beating Dallas on Thanksgiving

 

The Bad

• The Rex Ryan era. Buffalo wasted two years of good talent and time with Rex who looked as though the game had passed him pretty quickly. Worse was the fact the team constantly had drama leaking out that seemed never ending.
• 13 Seconds. I have generally avoided mentioning this much as I believe Josh and the boys will get a ring before the decade closes, but they wasted a golden opportunity with the offense at its peak because of coaching. 
• Damar Hamlin nearly dying on the field. Happy it turned out ok, but this was just awful and it also felt like the season ended that night.
• Aaron Williams career having to end due to injury. Yes Landry cheap shot'd him, but the game against NE in 2015 week 2 resulted in him being carted off the field in ambulance. Just as he was turning into a truly good safety his career ended short. That sucked.
• Eric Woods career ending in it's prime. I hate we never got to see Wood with Josh as it would've been so fun. The two players I will hammer forever as wall of fame guys during the drought are Wood and K Williams.
• The incoming PSL's which are going to alter the stadium seating and fanbase in a sizable way. The stadium will be loud still, the fans will come, but you are going to lose communities of fans who have sat together forever because of this as they move to cheaper seats or worse can't go at all. It is a crappy price the fans have to pay to keep the team as it finishes evolving to todays NFL.
• Weather forcing home games to be moved either time or location wise.
• The limited amount of fans who got to see the team in 2020. The team finally evolves into its best form in 30 years and maybe 10,000 people total were live in Buffalo to see them. I understand COVID and why, but still was tough.
• Soul crushing losses to NFC teams for four years in a row. 2020 Cards Hail Mary, 2021 TB OT loss, 2022 Vikings OT loss, 2023 Eagles OT loss. Ironically after these losses the Bills went on runs the remainder of the year, but for four years in a row now the Bills have played in game of the year type games and lost.
• Turf on Thanksgiving. Successfully took Tre White and Von who were both each playing at a high level out for the year.
• Tre White going from future hall of famer to being cut. This one forever sucks as he had become a true all pro and his career was forever altered with the knee injuries.
• The Raiders loss in 2014 that took the Bills out of the playoffs. This was a fun team with that defense and it fell apart at the worst time possible. Only silver lining was Marrone left then (although I think even with the playoffs he would've tried to leverage leaving anyway).

 

The Weird

• Vontae Davis retiring at half time. Incredibly weird weird thing while somewhat funny.
• LeSean McCoy's female only party which ended up leaking online and yeaaa god knows what was happening there
• The start of Bills fans throwing adult toys at Tom Brady every home game from 2016 on. Again hilarious but weird
• Bills fans gaining national recognition somewhere around 2014-15ish for just doing outlandishly insane things which includes breaking tables, setting themselves on fire, qui pro quo adult acts for jerseys, and many other things. We have a brand and part of it is apparently we are certifiably insane as a group
• Sean McD's apparent 9/11 pump up speech on team work
• Doug Marrone apparently meeting Tim Graham in an airport hanger to discuss his criticism of the football team and the fact he actually branded himself Saint Doug
• Everything related to the Rex Ryan era
• The color rush game where the NFL allowed the Bills to wear Red and the Jets green successfully making the game unviewable for those with seeing issues. Simple solution was available for this not to happen
• Weird weird weather during the 2021 season. For some reason virtually every home game that year had incredibly strong weather ranging from a monsoon vs the Texans, hurricane winds vs NE, snow multiple times and then to finish the year the frozen playoff game vs NE. 
• Allowing a TD against the Jets in the 2016 finale as they decided on the kick return to just not touch the ball or call a fair catch.
• Nathan Peterman ever being a starting QB and every snap of his existence.
• Dan Carpenter getting laser'd in the eyes on field goals in 2014 in Detroit
• Kyle Orton's outfits
• Why the Bills were not credited for a TD against the Texans in the 2019 playoff game on the kickoff in the 2nd half. Never has been explained fully and it has felt the refs gave Houston a favor there.
• Both London Bills games
• All of the Bills away games in general against Jacksonville. Just weird weird losses ranging from heart breaking London 2016, boring playoff game with zero offense 9-3 2018, whatever the heck the 2021 loss in Jags was, and last years London loss that successfully took out half the Bills defense for the year.

I respect how Ralph brought football to WNY and his philanthropy to the area, but man, the organization was such a joke under his ownership for the final decade of his tenure.   Out of all the factors for “the drought” Ralph was reason #1.
 

The people he enabled to be leaders and decision makers after Donahue were horrendous choices - namely Marv, Russ, and Buddy Nix.  None were qualified for that role and the results served as evidence.  
 

The football product did get marginally better when Doug Whaley took over but also got worse in other areas as well

17 hours ago, ganesh said:

great stuff...

 

The no punt playoff game where we whooped the Patsies has to be right there in the "The Good" list.  It felt so good that day

Renewal of the Miami-Bills rivalry

 

The loss against Minnesota with the fumble on the goal line was terrible. We gave it to them

 

Kim's health - Not so good

 

The loss was a bad one but it was mostly inconsequential to the season - much like the Hail Murray loss

[corta765]

1 minute ago, JohnNord said:

I respect how Ralph brought football to WNY and his philanthropy to the area, but man, the organization was such a joke under his ownership for the final decade of his tenure.   Out of all the factors for “the drought” Ralph was reason #1.
 

The people he enabled to be leaders and decision makers after Donahue were horrendous choices - namely Marv, Russ, and Buddy Nix.  None were qualified for that role and the results served as evidence.  
 

The football product did get marginally better when Doug Whaley took over but also got worse in other areas as well

Not disagreeing at all with this. It is why I said I think by 2010 he knew he had flubbed it bad but it was too late as the teams future made it so hard to get quality people and they had botched so much in the prior decade that Buffalo was Siberia for all intensive purposes. 

 

The loss in 2004 to the Steelers had such ramifications short and long term for the franchise. The domino effect of bad decisions for years after was insane.

[mannc]

7 hours ago, muppy said:

greetings. Health issues are a thing that we all can empathise with when it is a family member or even yourself to a certain extent

 

Her families request for privacy I think is understandable. But we fans who wanted the best for her and hearing nothing was in its own way painful. For us

 

But to them I think they were trying to take the path of less resistance and keep it private. Once we did find out what happened was as bad as many feared sucked.

 

God Bless Kim Pegula

 

 

Like it or not, the Bills are very public enterprise and Kim was far more than just Terry’s wife.  She was, by most accounts, running the show, or close to it. The lack of transparency about what befell her—and her condition—was truly bizarre.

Edited June 13 by mannc

[muppy]

10 minutes ago, mannc said:

Like it or not, the Bills are very public enterprise and Kim was far more than just Terry’s wife.  She was, by most accounts, running the show, or close to it. The lack of transparency about what befell her—and her condition—was truly bizarre.

I don't understand why you think we Bills football fans are entitled to know details on her medical condition. This came from out of the blue with no blueprint on how they need deal with this publically for starters. Maybe her diagnosis was uncertain. 

 

what difference would it make in YOUR life? I know our team is important but I'm not prepared to scrutinize their actions . Not my family member. Not yours either.

 

what I would have "liked" is she never fall ill.

[mannc]

11 minutes ago, muppy said:

I don't understand why you think we Bills football fans are entitled to know details on her medical condition. This came from out of the blue with no blueprint on how they need deal with this publically for starters. Maybe her diagnosis was uncertain. 

 

what difference would it make in YOUR life? I know our team is important but I'm not prepared to scrutinize their actions . Not my family member. Not yours either.

 

what I would have "liked" is she never fall ill.

I never said I have a “right” to anything. I said that the family’s secrecy and lack of transparency on this topic is weird and suggests they are hiding something…for what reason, I have no idea.

[muppy]

1 minute ago, mannc said:

I never said I have a “right” to anything. I said that the family’s secrecy and lack of transparency on this topic is weird and suggests they are hiding something…for what reason, I have no idea.

you have no idea why they didn't share information but yet feel justified to criticize it. TCK gotcha.

[mannc]

4 minutes ago, muppy said:

you have no idea why they didn't share information but yet feel justified to criticize it. TCK gotcha.

That is correct.  

[FireChans]

On 6/12/2024 at 9:39 AM, corta765 said:

I got to thinking that we are closing out the tenth year since Ralph passed and the Bills were bought by the Pegulas. Many many changes have happened so figured it would be fun to chronicle and look back as a group.

 

The Good

• The team ending the drought. It hung like a dark cloud forever and then in the most unlikely of seasons as the team was clearly in transition lightning struck and it ended in the best of fashion. The 2017 season will hold a special place to me as a fan after going through the drought and attending so many games in that period. 
• Josh Allen being draft AND developed AND then turning into a demi god of a QB that even Chief fans fear. The fact the Bills actually did their homework and drafted a QB was cool. The fact they helped to properly develop him was honestly surprising. The fact this QB then worked to become the player he is now is truly stunning and something I will never take for granted.
• Division titles, playoff wins, and the team turning into a perennial contender. I get it the SB win and ring is needed, but it has been awesome the last bunch of years in this time and plenty of memorable games and moments
• The 2020 season. For those of us who were little dudes/dudettes or not born during the 90s run the idea of playing to make a SB and the energy excitement leading up to it was something we never got. 2020 was a dream season despite not being able to see it in person and after they beat BAL it was pretty surreal to know they actually were that close. Sucks they didn't close but for a lot of us it was that first feeling of "oh wow this is awesome and completely different".
• Pegula's ownership and commitment to the team. Overall they have invested heavily in the team and facilities which constantly get rave reviews from players. The brand of the team is as strong as it ever has been which just feels other worldly. Ralph was fine and a good owner but the team was long in the tooth when the Pegula's took over just in terms of brand and being a 21st century team. They also have stayed the heck away from the team in terms of football decision for a while now other then writing checks which is all that is needed
• The evolution of Bills Mafia to something nationally that has a real vibe and connection across the board. Winning helps of course, but it does feel like the fanbase has evolved and widen which is awesome.
• New Stadium. Whether it ended up being a reno or a new stadium something was needed for the long term and it is nice this is done.
• LeSean McCoy. Major shout out to him as he was just a great player to watch in his time here and was a huge reason for the drought going away.
• McBeane. All they've done is stabilize the team and turn them into a consistent winner.
• Helping to accelerate the Patriots decline. This was quite fun to see happen and put them down.
• Kyle Williams getting to go to playoffs.
• Beating Dallas on Thanksgiving

 

The Bad

• The Rex Ryan era. Buffalo wasted two years of good talent and time with Rex who looked as though the game had passed him pretty quickly. Worse was the fact the team constantly had drama leaking out that seemed never ending.
• 13 Seconds. I have generally avoided mentioning this much as I believe Josh and the boys will get a ring before the decade closes, but they wasted a golden opportunity with the offense at its peak because of coaching. 
• Damar Hamlin nearly dying on the field. Happy it turned out ok, but this was just awful and it also felt like the season ended that night.
• Aaron Williams career having to end due to injury. Yes Landry cheap shot'd him, but the game against NE in 2015 week 2 resulted in him being carted off the field in ambulance. Just as he was turning into a truly good safety his career ended short. That sucked.
• Eric Woods career ending in it's prime. I hate we never got to see Wood with Josh as it would've been so fun. The two players I will hammer forever as wall of fame guys during the drought are Wood and K Williams.
• The incoming PSL's which are going to alter the stadium seating and fanbase in a sizable way. The stadium will be loud still, the fans will come, but you are going to lose communities of fans who have sat together forever because of this as they move to cheaper seats or worse can't go at all. It is a crappy price the fans have to pay to keep the team as it finishes evolving to todays NFL.
• Weather forcing home games to be moved either time or location wise.
• The limited amount of fans who got to see the team in 2020. The team finally evolves into its best form in 30 years and maybe 10,000 people total were live in Buffalo to see them. I understand COVID and why, but still was tough.
• Soul crushing losses to NFC teams for four years in a row. 2020 Cards Hail Mary, 2021 TB OT loss, 2022 Vikings OT loss, 2023 Eagles OT loss. Ironically after these losses the Bills went on runs the remainder of the year, but for four years in a row now the Bills have played in game of the year type games and lost.
• Turf on Thanksgiving. Successfully took Tre White and Von who were both each playing at a high level out for the year.
• Tre White going from future hall of famer to being cut. This one forever sucks as he had become a true all pro and his career was forever altered with the knee injuries.
• The Raiders loss in 2014 that took the Bills out of the playoffs. This was a fun team with that defense and it fell apart at the worst time possible. Only silver lining was Marrone left then (although I think even with the playoffs he would've tried to leverage leaving anyway).

 

The Weird

• Vontae Davis retiring at half time. Incredibly weird weird thing while somewhat funny.
• LeSean McCoy's female only party which ended up leaking online and yeaaa god knows what was happening there
• The start of Bills fans throwing adult toys at Tom Brady every home game from 2016 on. Again hilarious but weird
• Bills fans gaining national recognition somewhere around 2014-15ish for just doing outlandishly insane things which includes breaking tables, setting themselves on fire, qui pro quo adult acts for jerseys, and many other things. We have a brand and part of it is apparently we are certifiably insane as a group
• Sean McD's apparent 9/11 pump up speech on team work
• Doug Marrone apparently meeting Tim Graham in an airport hanger to discuss his criticism of the football team and the fact he actually branded himself Saint Doug
• Everything related to the Rex Ryan era
• The color rush game where the NFL allowed the Bills to wear Red and the Jets green successfully making the game unviewable for those with seeing issues. Simple solution was available for this not to happen
• Weird weird weather during the 2021 season. For some reason virtually every home game that year had incredibly strong weather ranging from a monsoon vs the Texans, hurricane winds vs NE, snow multiple times and then to finish the year the frozen playoff game vs NE. 
• Allowing a TD against the Jets in the 2016 finale as they decided on the kick return to just not touch the ball or call a fair catch.
• Nathan Peterman ever being a starting QB and every snap of his existence.
• Dan Carpenter getting laser'd in the eyes on field goals in 2014 in Detroit
• Kyle Orton's outfits
• Why the Bills were not credited for a TD against the Texans in the 2019 playoff game on the kickoff in the 2nd half. Never has been explained fully and it has felt the refs gave Houston a favor there.
• Both London Bills games
• All of the Bills away games in general against Jacksonville. Just weird weird losses ranging from heart breaking London 2016, boring playoff game with zero offense 9-3 2018, whatever the heck the 2021 loss in Jags was, and last years London loss that successfully took out half the Bills defense for the year.

Maybe an addition to weird was Kyle Orton retiring and disappearing off the face of the earth without saying anything to anyone lol

1 hour ago, Freddie's Dead said:

The Good - 2021 was magical.  Cardiac win over the Raiders, followed by Fitz and Fred defeating the mighty Cheats at the Ralph.  Never forget Fred taking that screen to the 1 inch line, allowing us to run out the clock while the Cheats tried every dirty cheatin' trick in the book to get us out of FG range.  Fred was the MVP of the NFL.  Until....

 

The Bad - Fred's broken leg essentially ended the Bills 2021 dream season.  Fitz tried to be Superman, but he'd reached his ceiling.  The Bills O went into the crapper without Fred.  Ah, what might have been.

 

Third and puss.  Most gutless play in Bills history.  I know Fitz was two years gone, but he would have sold out for that first down.  

 

The Weird - Fitz going shirtless at our freezing cold home playoff game.  Arguably the most hirsute man in the history of the NFL.

 

Oops...  almost forgot one.  No list of Fitz's Bills accomplishments would be complete without Fitz's Fred Jackson Roast speech.

 

 

 

I remember folks weeping about Whaley getting fired then there’s like a bunch of players going nuts when he gets roasted here lol