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5 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Will one of the “ Biden is a good man” crowd take a stab at why he is unable to do the right thing and welcome the inconvenient granddaughter? Wouldn’t a good man have made that happen long ago?

 

I don’t expect any answers. 

For anyone who believes Biden is unwilling to destroy the country in order protect his evil son, please explain how you square this? To be more worried about your middle aged evil son than an innocent baby takes a special kind of horrible.

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3 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

So let me get this straight - homelessness is a byproduct of federal borrowing?  I’m not terribly conversant with the federal budget, but I believe that the borrowing supports such things as military spending (a Trump prerogative of convenience), and subsidized housing (maybe not a Trump issue, unless he’s getting the check, but apparently now an issue for Trumpers).  I believe in capitalism and, if you’ve squandered your money and time on booze and cigs and four wheelers and other crap you didn’t need, then later in life you pay a guy like me to put a roof over your head.  And I squeeze you, because it’s a business and that’s how things work in our economy.  If you’d like rent control and affordability, maybe public housing is the way to go.  Or you can just be a socialist.  Either one.  But I like where I’m at right now, and I believe in capitalism.  

 

Also, it sounds a lot like you’re blaming other people for your problems.  It doesn’t seem like you paid too much attention in school.  So you had to do blue collar work.  No shame in that.  But you’re also beholden to the white collar folks for the intellectual piece of your economic puzzle.  And, it seems, they screwed it up by scrimping on labor costs.  Fair enough.  

 

In the meantime, you’ve overlooked the idea that maybe if it wasn’t these “illegals” the folks who ran your company would have hired non-union, unskilled, cheap labor and reached the same result perhaps a little more quickly than they did with the illegals.  (Maybe if it wasn’t for the lazy white people there would have been no market for the illegals, but I digress.). You’ve also overlooked the point that you apparently saw all of this happening and, instead of looking for a new job and getting out ahead of it, you rode the ship to the bottom and now are blaming other people for your lack of foresight.  

 

I’ll add that, if all of what you’ve said is true, then it should be pretty easy for you to pick up other work given your description of your work ethic and your immigration status.  I sincerely hope it works out for you, and I’m sorry about the job situation.  You and I just disagree on who to blame (accountability is a piece that I think most Americans lack) and how to fix it (hint: if you’re working class, it ain’t Trump). 

I imagine Jim Clyburn’s present support accounts for the George Wallace issue, and I have a hard time believing that Jim Clyburn would support a racist. 

 

Oh i am fine, my house is paid for and everything on the piece of land that i own is paid for glory to god for it !!!!

 

Because i busted my ass for it & depended on no one to pay my bills for me plus didn't over extend myself ! When the pandemic hit i went back to doing construction & never missed a beat or never was late on a bill because unlike our gov't i didn't borrow myself into oblivion and expect some one else to dig me out of it . 

 

As far as my previous job when i was pushed out due to the illegal influx, silly me i thought seeing as i had worked for the company for 12 years that my seniority may have meant something along with the fact that the company never had to go back & redo any of my work because of faulty workmanship, but profit over saw all of that ! 

 

Until of course a crew of illegal folks screwed up a major job and you'll never guess who they called to fix it ? That's right me, then when he realized just how much money he could make by the experienced craftsman that was under his nose the entire time after almost 2 years of me staying with the company getting less and less work because of my dedication to the company i helped make a good name i gave my 2 weeks notice .

 

The reaction from the spoiled owner was unbelievable to me ! He told me in his own words "If the reason why you are leaving is because your not getting enough work i will make sure that you get more work" of which he was trying to exploit my talents (there's that word again) to make him more money and had already bid several jobs thinking i would be there but now would have to depend on others because he cut my work load back so much over the 2 prior years because of Illegals & his personal wallet .

 

Which is why this country is where its at today because it turned from taking care of those here with in this country to keep them working to making a profit for the (as you said) White collar or smarter more intelligent people which have put the screws to us all pretty much .

 

I am all for capitalism it is what made this country what it is but i am also about being loyal to those who do the work to make this country what it use to be not selling it out to the lowest bidder so that fat lazy white guy can just continue to take advantage of others at their expense !! 

 

Last but not least i am a Independent i do not in any way care about what party i align myself with those of which i am like minded in their way of fixing things and sit and make a form plan PRIOR TO  taking action unlike the sitting POTUS right now !! So as of this time i have aligned myself & voted for Trump because he is a business man & many others in our gov't can't even balance their own check books .

 

I like someone other than Trump though Vivek Ramaswamy i like because the race card which used continuously against Trump could not be a BS excuse and he answers a question he doesn't push anything aside & actually digs deeper to explain his place which i like . So i'll leave it at that for now because i have work to do . Your opinion is what it is but i know exactly where i stand and the majority of this countries problems have been causes specifically by politicians from the past & will continue because instead of standing up for real change they try to please every one and that seldom works at all !! 

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7 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Will one of the “ Biden is a good man” crowd take a stab at why he is unable to do the right thing and welcome the inconvenient granddaughter? Wouldn’t a good man have made that happen long ago?

 

I don’t expect any answers. 

Biden:

-faked his resume qualifications

-plagiarized speeches

-didn't want his kids growing up in a "racial jungle"

-said people at convenience stores all have thick Indian accents

-"Obama is the first clean articulate black candidate"

-"if you don't vote for me then you ain't black"

-"the big guy" gets his crackhead son jobs for kickbacks $

-prosecutes his political opponent

 

Did I miss anything? Hardly a good guy. Dementia Joe has got to go! (to the nursing home)

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42 minutes ago, T master said:

 

Oh i am fine, my house is paid for and everything on the piece of land that i own is paid for glory to god for it !!!!

 

Because i busted my ass for it & depended on no one to pay my bills for me plus didn't over extend myself ! When the pandemic hit i went back to doing construction & never missed a beat or never was late on a bill because unlike our gov't i didn't borrow myself into oblivion and expect some one else to dig me out of it . 

 

As far as my previous job when i was pushed out due to the illegal influx, silly me i thought seeing as i had worked for the company for 12 years that my seniority may have meant something along with the fact that the company never had to go back & redo any of my work because of faulty workmanship, but profit over saw all of that ! 

 

Until of course a crew of illegal folks screwed up a major job and you'll never guess who they called to fix it ? That's right me, then when he realized just how much money he could make by the experienced craftsman that was under his nose the entire time after almost 2 years of me staying with the company getting less and less work because of my dedication to the company i helped make a good name i gave my 2 weeks notice .

 

The reaction from the spoiled owner was unbelievable to me ! He told me in his own words "If the reason why you are leaving is because your not getting enough work i will make sure that you get more work" of which he was trying to exploit my talents (there's that word again) to make him more money and had already bid several jobs thinking i would be there but now would have to depend on others because he cut my work load back so much over the 2 prior years because of Illegals & his personal wallet .

 

Which is why this country is where its at today because it turned from taking care of those here with in this country to keep them working to making a profit for the (as you said) White collar or smarter more intelligent people which have put the screws to us all pretty much .

 

I am all for capitalism it is what made this country what it is but i am also about being loyal to those who do the work to make this country what it use to be not selling it out to the lowest bidder so that fat lazy white guy can just continue to take advantage of others at their expense !! 

 

Last but not least i am a Independent i do not in any way care about what party i align myself with those of which i am like minded in their way of fixing things and sit and make a form plan PRIOR TO  taking action unlike the sitting POTUS right now !! So as of this time i have aligned myself & voted for Trump because he is a business man & many others in our gov't can't even balance their own check books .

 

I like someone other than Trump though Vivek Ramaswamy i like because the race card which used continuously against Trump could not be a BS excuse and he answers a question he doesn't push anything aside & actually digs deeper to explain his place which i like . So i'll leave it at that for now because i have work to do . Your opinion is what it is but i know exactly where i stand and the majority of this countries problems have been causes specifically by politicians from the past & will continue because instead of standing up for real change they try to please every one and that seldom works at all !! 

This is one of the things that is so comical to me about working class Trumpers.  The guy is a businessman, for sure.  And there’s this constant tension between the businessman/management and the worker.  That’s the nature of capitalism.  Those guys aren’t for you.  They’re for them, and they use—exploit—you to help them.  It’s how it works.  

 

As far as the balancing of the checkbook goes, didn’t that guy declare bankruptcy a couple of times?  That, of course, ultimately involves stiffing creditors.  And didn’t Trump approve about twice the borrowing that contributes to the national debt than did Biden?  I appreciate that some of those monies were handouts during COVID, but that in turn not only constitutes socialism—the very thing of which Trump has accused more or less everyone else—but contributed to inflation. 

 

Speaking of exploitation, how about the tax cuts?  Cutting corporate taxes was great for me.  The market was up under Trump and is probably up even more under Biden.  What if you’re not in the market?  It’s tougher to get in, your buying power is reduced, and you’re paying a greater portion of the collective tax burden.  Same thing with income taxes.  Who benefitted far and away the most from the TJCA?  Not you, but the rich folks who want to exploit you and your vote.  

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1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said:

Biden:

-faked his resume qualifications

-plagiarized speeches

-didn't want his kids growing up in a "racial jungle"

-said people at convenience stores all have thick Indian accents

-"Obama is the first clean articulate black candidate"

-"if you don't vote for me then you ain't black"

-"the big guy" gets his crackhead son jobs for kickbacks $

-prosecutes his political opponent

 

Did I miss anything? Hardly a good guy. Dementia Joe has got to go! (to the nursing home)

You missed several.  
 

Biden has an acknowledged history of inappropriate touching females in his space;

 

Biden was credibly accused of sexual assault by a female he worked with a couple decades back;

 

Biden leverages his family tragedies for political gain, often changing the fact pattern to elicit sympathy;

 

All that aside, perhaps the greatest indicator of his true character is this insistence on staying in the race in spite of his obviously rapidly deteriorating mental state.   I have known many, many people who saw decline in mental/physical shape and to a person, all knew what was happening to them.  Biden had made a conscious choice to press on in spite of what is obvious to himself.   He’s a raging narcissist who started believing his own press clippings. 

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1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

This is one of the things that is so comical to me about working class Trumpers.  The guy is a businessman, for sure.  And there’s this constant tension between the businessman/management and the worker.  That’s the nature of capitalism.  Those guys aren’t for you.  They’re for them, and they use—exploit—you to help them.  It’s how it works.  

 

As far as the balancing of the checkbook goes, didn’t that guy declare bankruptcy a couple of times?  That, of course, ultimately involves stiffing creditors.  And didn’t Trump approve about twice the borrowing that contributes to the national debt than did Biden?  I appreciate that some of those monies were handouts during COVID, but that in turn not only constitutes socialism—the very thing of which Trump has accused more or less everyone else—but contributed to inflation. 

 

Speaking of exploitation, how about the tax cuts?  Cutting corporate taxes was great for me.  The market was up under Trump and is probably up even more under Biden.  What if you’re not in the market?  It’s tougher to get in, your buying power is reduced, and you’re paying a greater portion of the collective tax burden.  Same thing with income taxes.  Who benefitted far and away the most from the TJCA?  Not you, but the rich folks who want to exploit you and your vote.  

 

They all have contributed to the debt Trump did but he inherited one hell of a balance from the previous POTUS . The last POTUS that said he balanced the budget was Clinton & seeing as he was a really good liar i think he probably cooked the books on that one too !! But America holds him a career politician in high re guards because he go a BJ while in the White house .

 

Shows what America holds to a high standard, he should have been thrown out & never been allowed to hold another political position just on the lies he told in that situation . If he'll lie to the country about that what else did he lie about yet still held in such high re guard .

 

And besides that is the way the system is set up just continue to print monies that we don't have which in turn helps the dollar be worth less and causes more debt & more inflation . If they would have left the gold standard in place it would be more like you & i only able to spend slightly more than what is available .

 

Can you imagine if we treated our finances like the gov't does ? Well for the most part America does now, a lot of speculation on things such as oil and different things what ever happened to reality not what if, or speculating what something might do ? 

 

As far as the market being up more under Biden so is inflation to the tune of some of the highest in history, so the money you are making isn't worth nearly as much . So which would you rather have more money with less inflation, or more money with much higher inflation i'll take more with less Alex for 100 .

 

As far as the POTUS goes i would much rather have a career business man than a career politician any day . Especially one that has failed and made their way back to prominence in their field . I can't stand most lawyers which most of those in DC are just that, and they are only there IMHO to twist the law or words so the everyday people can't understand it & to screw somebody over that being we the people .

 

To go back to a original thought in this i feel the US is much weaker by globalization because the country is much more dependent on others for products but if they were produced here it would be better for the country & then we could be the exporters of those goods to be more in control of our own future as a country & not on others .

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2 hours ago, T master said:

 

They all have contributed to the debt Trump did but he inherited one hell of a balance from the previous POTUS . The last POTUS that said he balanced the budget was Clinton & seeing as he was a really good liar i think he probably cooked the books on that one too !! But America holds him a career politician in high re guards because he go a BJ while in the White house .

 

Shows what America holds to a high standard, he should have been thrown out & never been allowed to hold another political position just on the lies he told in that situation . If he'll lie to the country about that what else did he lie about yet still held in such high re guard .

 

And besides that is the way the system is set up just continue to print monies that we don't have which in turn helps the dollar be worth less and causes more debt & more inflation . If they would have left the gold standard in place it would be more like you & i only able to spend slightly more than what is available .

 

Can you imagine if we treated our finances like the gov't does ? Well for the most part America does now, a lot of speculation on things such as oil and different things what ever happened to reality not what if, or speculating what something might do ? 

 

As far as the market being up more under Biden so is inflation to the tune of some of the highest in history, so the money you are making isn't worth nearly as much . So which would you rather have more money with less inflation, or more money with much higher inflation i'll take more with less Alex for 100 .

 

As far as the POTUS goes i would much rather have a career business man than a career politician any day . Especially one that has failed and made their way back to prominence in their field . I can't stand most lawyers which most of those in DC are just that, and they are only there IMHO to twist the law or words so the everyday people can't understand it & to screw somebody over that being we the people .

 

To go back to a original thought in this i feel the US is much weaker by globalization because the country is much more dependent on others for products but if they were produced here it would be better for the country & then we could be the exporters of those goods to be more in control of our own future as a country & not on others .

It's what happens when you have pent up demand, labor shortages, and free money given away during the butchering of COVID by the prior administration.  Unless you're a commie, this sometimes happens in a free market (or close to it, at least) economy.  

2 hours ago, T master said:

 

They all have contributed to the debt Trump did but he inherited one hell of a balance from the previous POTUS . The last POTUS that said he balanced the budget was Clinton & seeing as he was a really good liar i think he probably cooked the books on that one too !! But America holds him a career politician in high re guards because he go a BJ while in the White house .

 

Shows what America holds to a high standard, he should have been thrown out & never been allowed to hold another political position just on the lies he told in that situation . If he'll lie to the country about that what else did he lie about yet still held in such high re guard .

 

And besides that is the way the system is set up just continue to print monies that we don't have which in turn helps the dollar be worth less and causes more debt & more inflation . If they would have left the gold standard in place it would be more like you & i only able to spend slightly more than what is available .

 

Can you imagine if we treated our finances like the gov't does ? Well for the most part America does now, a lot of speculation on things such as oil and different things what ever happened to reality not what if, or speculating what something might do ? 

 

As far as the market being up more under Biden so is inflation to the tune of some of the highest in history, so the money you are making isn't worth nearly as much . So which would you rather have more money with less inflation, or more money with much higher inflation i'll take more with less Alex for 100 .

 

As far as the POTUS goes i would much rather have a career business man than a career politician any day . Especially one that has failed and made their way back to prominence in their field . I can't stand most lawyers which most of those in DC are just that, and they are only there IMHO to twist the law or words so the everyday people can't understand it & to screw somebody over that being we the people .

 

To go back to a original thought in this i feel the US is much weaker by globalization because the country is much more dependent on others for products but if they were produced here it would be better for the country & then we could be the exporters of those goods to be more in control of our own future as a country & not on others .

That's shortsighted, and again explains when it makes no sense for the working class to vote Republican.  My stock portfolio is through the roof in the last several years.  Those gains FAR outpace inflation.  Republicans measure the economy by stock market performance, that is, top down performance.  Democrats view the economy from the ground up.  I'm doing great right now.  But average laborers and paycheck to paycheck people?  Not so much.  

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13 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

You missed several.  
 

Biden has an acknowledged history of inappropriate touching females in his space;

 

Biden was credibly accused of sexual assault by a female he worked with a couple decades back;

 

Biden leverages his family tragedies for political gain, often changing the fact pattern to elicit sympathy;

 

All that aside, perhaps the greatest indicator of his true character is this insistence on staying in the race in spite of his obviously rapidly deteriorating mental state.   I have known many, many people who saw decline in mental/physical shape and to a person, all knew what was happening to them.  Biden had made a conscious choice to press on in spite of what is obvious to himself.   He’s a raging narcissist who started believing his own press clippings. 

 

- At the top of his game as Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee got suckered by Bush and Cheney on the WMDs.  Ran the hearings. Didn't let detractors speak. Voted for it.  1,000,000+ dead.

 

- Said no troops had been killed on his "watch".

 

- Made a fool out of himself in the Clarence Thomas hearings.

 

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4 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

- At the top of his game as Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee got suckered by Bush and Cheney on the WMDs.  Ran the hearings. Didn't let detractors speak. Voted for it.  1,000,000+ dead.

 

- Said no troops had been killed on his "watch".

 

- Made a fool out of himself in the Clarence Thomas hearings.

 

The exchange with Justice Thomas is legendary. Good call. 

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On 7/9/2024 at 7:41 AM, SectionC3 said:

And yet Jim Clyburn supports him.  
 

I can’t speak to his showering habits - I don’t know what you’re talking about there.  But the plagiarism thing hardly makes one a bad person.  Of course it was a mistake.   Life, however, is a matter of degree, and that issue pales in comparison to other mistakes made by others in public life.  

And yet Kamala, his own vp, called him out for his racism in the 2020 debate.  He was a segregationist in the 70s for pete's sake. And isn't Clyburn the guy using campaign fund as a piggybank for his famiy? 

Not sure why you have a hard time admitting that this career politian is a scumbag, but if you want to learn more about his showering habits,  just Google it, it's been on many news sites.

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On 7/9/2024 at 7:35 PM, SectionC3 said:

It's what happens when you have pent up demand, labor shortages, and free money given away during the butchering of COVID by the prior administration.  Unless you're a commie, this sometimes happens in a free market (or close to it, at least) economy.  

That's shortsighted, and again explains when it makes no sense for the working class to vote Republican.  My stock portfolio is through the roof in the last several years.  Those gains FAR outpace inflation.  Republicans measure the economy by stock market performance, that is, top down performance.  Democrats view the economy from the ground up.  I'm doing great right now.  But average laborers and paycheck to paycheck people?  Not so much.  

 

You & your portfolio are doing great so you must be a republican right ? Because that's all you care about is your portfolio !

 

The up tick started long before Joe was in office and after they found out what a joke covid was now it went back to what it was doing prior to the pandemic, so your still doing good with the carry over and as long as your doing good screw the little guys  !

 

And thats the thing you don't give a S**T about the lower class people that would be best helped if the manufacturing jobs were to come back here on American soil where they belong but as long as the Chinese keep making it for cheap exploiting their people & you keep investing in them to make your money that's all that matters ...

 

All the while America is weaker for it & the pandemic proved it in spades but hey your making money so life is good !! 

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