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13 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Does anyone know how Coleman is doing ?

He has currently made it to the halfway point between his parking spot and the practice field. He will be out there tomorrow, then 20 yards off the line of scrimmage Friday.

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3 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

Like I said it's not about the individual reps. A drop here or a miscommunication there is normal. What worries me is that Tyrell Shavers and Andy Isabella and KJ Hamler are getting 1st team reps. I'm sorry but that represents a failure of the Bills team building process. These should all be practice squad fodder, not legitimate competitors for starting snaps.

They need to make decisions on guys they don’t already know about and that means seeing how they perform with the ones, especially Josh, who gives them the best chance to impress. This literally happens EVERY year with various players at various positions. This is not a failure of the team building process in the least; it’s actually a component of the team building process. 

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Relax

We're not the Jests

10 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

No context besides "lower body injury", "limping", and "did not return" could mean anything from just a bruise all the way to out for the year.

 

Guess we'll know more tomorrow. *Really* hope it's nothing. If it is major, get Hunter Renfrow on the phone, stat.

Relax . it's the 2020s not the 2010s .

 

We'll bill alright 

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1 hour ago, FireChans said:

So you wouldn't take any of those players listed because they didn't win a playoff game last year?

 

Chase/Higgins have been to a Super Bowl.

 

Hill has been to 2 and won 1.

 

How many SB appearances does Shavers and Isabella have again?

 

Did you really just compare some bottom of the depth chart guys getting some snaps in OTA's with Shavers and Isabella to Tyreek Hill?   LOL

 

And Hill went to 2 SB's BEFORE he was paid $30M dollars in which he has not won a playoff game since being paid that, which includes a 5 game losing streak weeks 12-17 in 2022 with Tua until a 3rd string rookie QB saved them from missing the playoffs by breaking the losing streak week 18.  It also includes both Tua and Hill being in the MVP convo much of 2023 and holding a 4 game divisional lead with 5 games left and still not winning the division and barely making playoffs.  It includes only 2 wins in 2 seasons against teams with a .500 record.

 

So point is...big expensive WR's don't guaranteed you anything.

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52 minutes ago, rusty shackleford said:

He has currently made it to the halfway point between his parking spot and the practice field. He will be out there tomorrow, then 20 yards off the line of scrimmage Friday.

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21 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Did you really just compare some bottom of the depth chart guys getting some snaps in OTA's with Shavers and Isabella to Tyreek Hill?   LOL

 

And Hill went to 2 SB's BEFORE he was paid $30M dollars in which he has not won a playoff game since being paid that, which includes a 5 game losing streak weeks 12-17 in 2022 with Tua until a 3rd string rookie QB saved them from missing the playoffs by breaking the losing streak week 18.  It also includes both Tua and Hill being in the MVP convo much of 2023 and holding a 4 game divisional lead with 5 games left and still not winning the division and barely making playoffs.  It includes only 2 wins in 2 seasons against teams with a .500 record.

 

So point is...big expensive WR's don't guaranteed you anything.

Big expensive WR's don't guarantee you anything. Agree with that.

 

What do bottom 5 WR rooms guarantee you?

 

In 2023, the 5 teams with bottom 5 WR rooms by AAV went 36-49, collectively.  One team made the postseason and won 1 game.

 

In 2022, the bottom 5 teams went 29-56, collectively. One team made the postseason and lost in the WC round.

 

in 2021, the bottom 5 teams went 37-48, collectively. One team made the postseason and lost in the WC round.

 

In 2020, the bottom 5 teams went 39-41, collectively. Two teams made the postseason, and both lost in the WC round.

 

So a bottom 5 WR group, based on the last 4 seasons, doesn't really seem to be a recipe for success. Right?  1 team in the last 4 seasons WON a SINGLE playoff game. That's the peak of this strategy.

 

For comparison, I can do top 5 WR room numbers. Would guarantee they are much better lol.

 

Also, FYI, the Bills are bottom 5 as it stands in 2024.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Big expensive WR's don't guarantee you anything. Agree with that.

 

What do bottom 5 WR rooms guarantee you?

 

In 2023, the 5 teams with bottom 5 WR rooms by AAV went 36-49, collectively.  One team made the postseason and won 1 game.

 

In 2022, the bottom 5 teams went 29-56, collectively. One team made the postseason and lost in the WC round.

 

in 2021, the bottom 5 teams went 37-48, collectively. One team made the postseason and lost in the WC round.

 

In 2020, the bottom 5 teams went 39-41, collectively. Two teams made the postseason, and both lost in the WC round.

 

So a bottom 5 WR group, based on the last 4 seasons, doesn't really seem to be a recipe for success. Right?  1 team in the last 4 seasons WON a SINGLE playoff game. That's the peak of this strategy.

 

For comparison, I can do top 5 WR room numbers. Would guarantee they are much better lol.

 

Also, FYI, the Bills are bottom 5 as it stands in 2024.

 

 

Who were their QBs?  Kinda relevant, don't you think?

 

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Just now, FireChans said:

Based on how much the WR’s are paid or based on their win totals?

 

Do you think the QB makes the WR or vice-versa?  If you're going to talk about "bottom 5 WR rooms" I think it's relevant to know who was throwing them the ball.

 

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1 minute ago, eball said:

 

Do you think the QB makes the WR or vice-versa?  If you're going to talk about "bottom 5 WR rooms" I think it's relevant to know who was throwing them the ball.

 

Then it’s equally relevant who is throwing them the ball with a top 5 unit, right?

 

I’m not discussing talent. I’m discussing pure contract numbers by AAV.

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