Rampant Buffalo Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 5 hours ago, boyst said: The NFL is not necessary for prosperity in this country. It has nothing to do with the ability or inclination to thrive or reach the American dream save for the opportunity to play football, coach football, or such a job that directly related to it. Gouging andnlaws preventing monopolies were created to keep 'ma Bell from having complete control over a function of our lives that we need. Not to stop us from hero worshipping some random sportsballman. By the standard people seem the NFL than we can call HBO gouging. It's amazing to me that so many people B word about this drinking a $10 latte frappe mocha chino spending $30 a pop across the board on their 6 streaming platforms while spending 99¢ a month to play candy crush on their $1,800 iPhone inside their house on a 2.5% interest rate they locked in 12 years ago with concern that housing is too expensive now compared to what their parents paid in the 80's. This America is the dumbest version of itself ever. Can't wait until we get more electrolytes! Imagine a city with 100 pizza places. If one raises its prices too much, or provides bad product or bad service, it will lose customers to its 99 competitors. Adam Smith's invisible hand serves to hold all 100 pizza places accountable. Now imagine a large corporation buys up all 100 pizza places. Prices go up. Quality goes down. The invisible hand no longer holds the one pizza company accountable. Pizza is not a necessity. There are plenty of other types of food people can eat instead. Does that mean the public is under some kind of moral obligation to permit this monopolistic behavior? Is the public only allowed to defend its own best interests when a monopolist seeks to control basic necessities? On another matter, you have trivialized people's concerns about increases in housing costs. From this site: "Average rent prices have increased 8.85% per year since 1980, consistently outpacing wage inflation by a significant margin." If the middle class and working class are taking it on the chin with respect to housing costs, why do you have a problem with people pointing that out? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 1 hour ago, Rampant Buffalo said: Imagine a city with 100 pizza places. If one raises its prices too much, or provides bad product or bad service, it will lose customers to its 99 competitors. Adam Smith's invisible hand serves to hold all 100 pizza places accountable. Now imagine a large corporation buys up all 100 pizza places. Prices go up. Quality goes down. The invisible hand no longer holds the one pizza company accountable. Pizza is not a necessity. There are plenty of other types of food people can eat instead. Does that mean the public is under some kind of moral obligation to permit this monopolistic behavior? Is the public only allowed to defend its own best interests when a monopolist seeks to control basic necessities? On another matter, you have trivialized people's concerns about increases in housing costs. From this site: "Average rent prices have increased 8.85% per year since 1980, consistently outpacing wage inflation by a significant margin." If the middle class and working class are taking it on the chin with respect to housing costs, why do you have a problem with people pointing that out? You're arguing economic theory equating pizza to the NFL? You don't even need pizza to live. You can choose other things. The NFL hardly is relevant to health, function, or reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Glad the salary cap will continue to go up with this stupid lawsuit tossed out. Nobody forced you to pay that price. LOL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 8 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Nobody forced you to pay that price. LOL. See how your rationale goes over in the PSL thread! 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 14 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: See how your rationale goes over in the PSL thread! 🤣🤣 People love to complain. North Korean citizens are also ticked off about the PSL's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Even at $300 a year, the NFL is a relative bargain. I go out to Top Golf for an evening and it’s $300. The NFL gives me hours of content a week for 27-ish weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 (edited) 5 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: Even at $300 a year, the NFL is a relative bargain. I go out to Top Golf for an evening and it’s $300. The NFL gives me hours of content a week for 27-ish weeks. And you can watch every game if you want to. Although if you don't mind waiting until a game is over, you can just get NFL+ for $99. Edited August 2 by PromoTheRobot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 4 hours ago, Rampant Buffalo said: Imagine a city with 100 pizza places. If one raises its prices too much, or provides bad product or bad service, it will lose customers to its 99 competitors. Adam Smith's invisible hand serves to hold all 100 pizza places accountable. Now imagine a large corporation buys up all 100 pizza places. Prices go up. Quality goes down. The invisible hand no longer holds the one pizza company accountable. Pizza is not a necessity. There are plenty of other types of food people can eat instead. Does that mean the public is under some kind of moral obligation to permit this monopolistic behavior? Is the public only allowed to defend its own best interests when a monopolist seeks to control basic necessities? On another matter, you have trivialized people's concerns about increases in housing costs. From this site: "Average rent prices have increased 8.85% per year since 1980, consistently outpacing wage inflation by a significant margin." If the middle class and working class are taking it on the chin with respect to housing costs, why do you have a problem with people pointing that out? is "pizza" all sports? just football? just pro football? just NFL branded pro football? One large corporation does not own football teams. They are actually called "franchises"--like, say a national pizza chain has franchisees. Is there a local pizza brand affiliate that has an agreement with the national company where the local affiliate has to provide free pizza every Sunday/sometimes Monday night and Thursday too? Do they also force free local pizza eaters to buy their special menu pizza package to get even MORE pizza? no. they do not. this is a failure of comparison on every level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 (edited) Does anyone know if there are more or fewer subscriptions since YouTube took it over from DirecTV? My assumption is that when the price went up, the number of subscribers went down. I know that I didn’t renew mine. Edited August 3 by SoCal Deek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Does anyone know if there are more or fewer subscriptions since YouTube took it over from DirecTV? My assumption is that when the price went up, the number of subscribers went down. I know that I didn’t renew mine. I pay $289 including red zone which is cheaper than directv was...even though usually got it free most years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 10 hours ago, nucci said: I pay $289 including red zone which is cheaper than directv was...even though usually got it free most years Sweet! I’ll be coming over to your house. And I never got it for free. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepPass Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 On 8/2/2024 at 3:52 PM, Doc Brown said: Glad the salary cap will continue to go up with this stupid lawsuit tossed out. Nobody forced you to pay that price. LOL. It was a stupid lawsuit and it was a crazy verdict! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 12 hours ago, nucci said: I pay $289 including red zone which is cheaper than directv was...even though usually got it free most years How are you getting that price? I just saw my renewal and its $389 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 13 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Does anyone know if there are more or fewer subscriptions since YouTube took it over from DirecTV? My assumption is that when the price went up, the number of subscribers went down. I know that I didn’t renew mine. Not sure about that. Many did not want a dish…probably more available to more people now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 8 hours ago, Herc11 said: How are you getting that price? I just saw my renewal and its $389 early renewal by June 30 was $100 off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 55 minutes ago, nucci said: early renewal by June 30 was $100 off. Aww damn, didn't know that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 39 minutes ago, Herc11 said: Aww damn, didn't know that I think that is for Youtube TV subscribers....not sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 5 hours ago, nucci said: I think that is for Youtube TV subscribers....not sure I am one. Just never saw any early offers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukester Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 1 hour ago, Herc11 said: I am one. Just never saw any early offers. There was thread on it in late spring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 On 8/2/2024 at 3:18 PM, boyst said: You're arguing economic theory equating pizza to the NFL? You don't even need pizza to live. You can choose other things. The NFL hardly is relevant to health, function, or reality. I need pizza to live 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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