GoBills808 Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Just now, HurlyBurly51 said: The Bills need someone else to knock out the Chiefs in the playoffs before we would see them. That is the way in the McD era. And the Bengals 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: How much longer does his credit line for backdooring a wildcard loss extend? And we are very far from beating either them or the Bengals in the playoffs. We are not in the same class come postseason We aren't far from beating them in the playoffs lol We went to Arrowhead where we were winning with 13 seconds left.. and the team collapsed.. that's as close as you can be to winning Last year Tyler bass was taking a field goal to tie the game with 2 minutes left... Again super close We were not far... That's literally one or two plays from winning 4 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 5 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: He entered the league before Alex Smith and rivers and Stafford and Rodgers lol you can murder quarterbacks in 1999 and 2000 and 2001 and 2002 and 2003 You're literally just grabbing a couple of people... And thinking every quarterback plays great til they are 37 lol Jim Kelly is a Hall of famer and fell off of a cliff at 34... Donovan McNabb was really good no matter what you think... There's a reason he's on the Hall of Fame ballot every year as a nominee You have the opinion that obviously if you're not a top five All pro you suck.. because you can't say 230 touchdowns... 37,000 yards.. led the league in yards twice.. let the league in interception percentage... First quarterback ever with 30 touchdowns and less than 10 interceptions in a season Philadelphia eagles leader in passing yards and touchdowns... Fifth all time in rushing yards for a quarterback I could keep going on he was really good That's more than a couple people I listed lol. Eli manning is another. Drew brees. I can keep going. If you had a borderline hall of fame career, it's very rare that you fall off a cliff at 34 years of age. Mcnabb has elite stats , I'm not saying he didn't. My point was how much of that was Andy Reid as he's a QB whisperer. But back to the original point: Mahomes put Andy Reid over the top. McDermott already has a hall of fame QB and has won nothing with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Find a Defense in the final few minutes of the game other than the cover no one soft shell prevent Defense. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: We aren't far from beating them in the playoffs lol We went to Arrowhead where we were winning with 13 seconds left.. and the team collapsed.. that's as close as you can be to winning Last year Tyler bass was taking a field goal to tie the game with 2 minutes left... Again super close We were not far... That's literally one or two plays from winning I guess if you thought the last KC loss was a close game you would think we're not far off That was a double digit loss 9/10 times it's played imo 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sBills Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 9 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: He entered the league before Alex Smith and rivers and Stafford and Rodgers lol you can murder quarterbacks in 1999 and 2000 and 2001 and 2002 and 2003 You're literally just grabbing a couple of people... And thinking every quarterback plays great til they are 37 lol Jim Kelly is a Hall of famer and fell off of a cliff at 34... Donovan McNabb was really good no matter what you think... There's a reason he's on the Hall of Fame ballot every year as a nominee McNabb was a good qb. But not a Mahomes or Allen. McD has Allen. That’s the point. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 1 minute ago, 90sBills said: McNabb was a good qb. But not a Mahomes or Allen. McD has Allen. That’s the point. Exactly what I'm trying to say. Mcnabb isn't close to the same league as Josh and Mahomes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Just now, 90sBills said: McNabb was a good qb. But not a Mahomes or Allen. McD has Allen. That’s the point. He also got Allen on a team went to the playoffs once in 17 years prior... The organization was a mess from top down The Chiefs organization has always been considered very well run... They were going to the playoffs before us because they had a roster built for it Sean McDermott gutted our roster the first year and rebuilt it from the bottom up and has turned us into an NFL contender year in and year out Point stands Donovan McNabb has always been really good... Again does this board only think you're good if you're a Hall of famer? He certainly is one of the best quarterbacks ever not in the Hall of Fame and I would take him over Eli Manning who somebody else's arguing for lol Just now, BillsFan130 said: Exactly what I'm trying to say. Mcnabb isn't close to the same league as Josh and Mahomes Nobody would say he is Point stands... He's a good enough quarterback to win a super bowl... And Andy Reid couldn't with him He needed somebody that they call baby goat .. an anointed football player He couldn't win with really good 5 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I guess if you thought the last KC loss was a close game you would think we're not far off That was a double digit loss 9/10 times it's played imo We we're winning at halftime LOL You can count on one hand the amount of times Josh's lost by double digits in the last 3 years on one hand hahahaha And the point of the matter is we didn't lose by double digits we lost by three Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: He also got Allen on a team went to the playoffs once in 17 years prior... The organization was a mess from top down The Chiefs organization has always been considered very well run... They were going to the playoffs before us because they had a roster built for it Sean McDermott gutted our roster the first year and rebuilt it from the bottom up and has turned us into an NFL contender year in and year out Point stands Donovan McNabb has always been really good... Again does this board only think you're good if you're a Hall of famer? He certainly is one of the best quarterbacks ever not in the Hall of Fame and I would take him over Eli Manning who somebody else's arguing for lol Nobody would say he is Point stands... He's a good enough quarterback to win a super bowl... And Andy Reid couldn't with him He needed somebody that they call baby goat .. an anointed football player He couldn't win with really good We we're winning at halftime LOL You can count on one hand the amount of times Josh's lost by double digits in the last 3 years on one hand hahahaha And the point of the matter is we didn't lose by double digits we lost by three Yes their blushes were saved by Mahomes missing back to back wide open TDs in the first half and the dumbest rule in football You think it was a close game because of the final score more power to you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 32 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Reid had Donovan McNabb who was a pro bowl quarterback and has been nominated for the hof... Easily good enough to win a super bowl.. better than Nick foles who won for the eagles Might not be a top 15 quarterback of all time Donovan McNabb was really f****** good... Would have easily been in the top two quarterbacks in Buffalo history in 60 years We're talking about a top pick who is mobile strong Cannon and a winner... He is one of the most underrated quarterbacks it’ll be a real damn shame if you are posting this about Josh in 20 years 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 The eagles before drafting Donovan McNabb only made it past the divisional war round once in their entire history McNabb helped lead them to a super bowl and four straight NFC championship games... Led the NFL in total offense per game twice Led the NFL in total touchdowns per game once Had the best interception percentage in a season in NFL history before it was broken in the modern era... Has 37,000 yards and 240 touchdowns... Fifth most rushing yards all time by quarterback Anybody who is trashing those numbers probably think a football is stuffed with feathers It always takes two to tango so I don't want to hear about Andy Reid... Donovan McNabb was really good He might not be the best... He certainly was towards the top when he was healthy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 46 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: We have to fire McDermott. At what point do Bills fans come to the conclusion that we will NEVER beat an Andy Reid team in the playoffs with McDermott at the helm ? I'm very sorry If we weren't going to fire him after 13s, then he's never getting fired. Pegula's too stubborn and probably feels Sean is a lifer. Just so sad and frustrating that Sean's side of the ball can't get it down come playoff time. Which just amplifies the pressure on 17. Rinse & Repeat.... 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Yes their blushes were saved by Mahomes missing back to back wide open TDs in the first half and the dumbest rule in football You think it was a close game because of the final score more power to you. So you don't think 13 seconds was close either.... What about mahomes having his worst winning percentage against the Buffalo Bills? We've been decimated with injuries when we play them in playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 11 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: He also got Allen on a team went to the playoffs once in 17 years prior... The organization was a mess from top down The Chiefs organization has always been considered very well run... They were going to the playoffs before us because they had a roster built for it Sean McDermott gutted our roster the first year and rebuilt it from the bottom up and has turned us into an NFL contender year in and year out Point stands Donovan McNabb has always been really good... Again does this board only think you're good if you're a Hall of famer? He certainly is one of the best quarterbacks ever not in the Hall of Fame and I would take him over Eli Manning who somebody else's arguing for lol Nobody would say he is Point stands... He's a good enough quarterback to win a super bowl... And Andy Reid couldn't with him He needed somebody that they call baby goat .. an anointed football player He couldn't win with really good We we're winning at halftime LOL You can count on one hand the amount of times Josh's lost by double digits in the last 3 years on one hand hahahaha And the point of the matter is we didn't lose by double digits we lost by three 17 years is such a lame thing to point to at this point… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 11 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: He also got Allen on a team went to the playoffs once in 17 years prior... The organization was a mess from top down The Chiefs organization has always been considered very well run... They were going to the playoffs before us because they had a roster built for it Sean McDermott gutted our roster the first year and rebuilt it from the bottom up and has turned us into an NFL contender year in and year out Point stands Donovan McNabb has always been really good... Again does this board only think you're good if you're a Hall of famer? He certainly is one of the best quarterbacks ever not in the Hall of Fame and I would take him over Eli Manning who somebody else's arguing for lol Nobody would say he is Point stands... He's a good enough quarterback to win a super bowl... And Andy Reid couldn't with him He needed somebody that they call baby goat .. an anointed football player He couldn't win with really good We we're winning at halftime LOL You can count on one hand the amount of times Josh's lost by double digits in the last 3 years on one hand hahahaha And the point of the matter is we didn't lose by double digits we lost by three Based on what? He had a top 3 coach of all time with stacked weapons and he couldn't win. (Also had a good defence with Jim Johnson) Andy leaves Philly and has 3 rings now cause he has an elite QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: So you don't think 13 seconds was close either.... What about mahomes having his worst winning percentage against the Buffalo Bills? We've been decimated with injuries when we play them in playoffs 😂😂Injuries If you want to think we are close to beating the Chiefs or the Bengals for that matter in the playoffs have at it, I won't stop you 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: Based on what? He had a top 3 coach of all time with stacked weapons and he couldn't win. (Also had a good defence with Jim Johnson) Andy leaves Philly and has 3 rings now cause he has an elite QB Andy Reid was considered at the same level of Donovan McNabb when he was fired He was considered really good but not good enough to get over the edge ... he was not considered top 3 That was what people thought of Andy Reid That is 100% what the league thought of Andy Reid when he was fired... Really good.. couldn't get over the hump... Secondly, Nick foles won a super bowl... The Bills lost to a backup in the '90s in the super bowl Donovan McNabb is 100% good enough to win a super bowl and better than some super bowl winners 4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: 😂😂Injuries If you want to think we are close to beating the Chiefs or the Bengals for that matter in the playoffs have at it, I won't stop you The Bangles certainly pushed us around more in the playoffs then the Chiefs ever did Besides the AFC championship game.. where the bills were manhandled... It was also the first real playoff run for the bills Andy Reid couldn't win for 12 years with Philadelphia in the big one Edited June 5 by Buffalo716 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Just now, Buffalo716 said: Andy Reid was at the same level of Donovan McNabb when he was fired He was considered really good but not good enough to get over the edge That was what people thought of Andy Reid Ok. And when Andy left, Mcnabb was hot trash and Andy won 3 rings. Its pretty easy to put the pieces to the puzzle here to who the problem was with Andy not winning, with all due respect 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: Andy Reid was at the same level of Donovan McNabb when he was fired He was considered really good but not good enough to get over the edge That was what people thought of Andy Reid The Bangles certainly pushed us around more in the playoffs then the Chiefs ever did Besides the AFC championship game.. where the bills were manhandled... It was also the first real playoff run for the bills Andy Reid couldn't win for 12 years with Philadelphia in the big one Do you think Allen is closer to McNabb or Mahomes? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Everyone knows that the defense has been the problem in all these playoff losses to KC. I tend to think Andy Reid, being McDermott's original mentor, knows a bit about how to beat McD's defense. I'm not an expert on the X's and O's, but I think McD needs to somehow switch gears in the playoffs. Instead of doing the same predictable stuff that wins regular season games, they gotta switch some things up in order to kick it up a notch. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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