Covid Origins Cover Up: covid.gov

[Big Blitz]

5 years.  
 

But hey listen.  It’s far more important to rake Trump over the coals for being a politician and saying he’d “fix our problems” on day 1.

 

For saying we’d get zero cases.  Or whatever they blamed him for in 2020. 
 
 

This?  Silence.  Go f all yourselves.  

 

 

[stevestojan]

I’m sure it was a lab leak (I thought that was common knowledge at this point), but claiming it’s now “proven” because Trump ordered someone to create a webpage that looks like someone in HTLM101 in 1997 would build, is a bit of a stretch. 
 

He controls the .gov websites so aren’t we really just transferring his truth social posts/opinions to a more official platform? 
 

My point is, there’s no “news” here. Nothing new. Just Trump’s opinion (that I happen to agree with, mind you) about the lab leak on the gaudiest website I’ve ever seen. And it’s an official government website. Wow. 

Also, here’s where I always get stuck with the republicans’ view on this. Republicans blasted masks, social distancing, and businesses being closed down. BUT at the same time, you want to blame China for leaking this. So, are you saying China’s best effort at biological warfare is something “just like the flu?” You think they were just sitting at a board meeting and said “how could we moderately inconvenience a TON of people.”
 

Honest question: was COVID just the flu, was it a chemical attack/leak by China, or was it both and China is just really bad at this?

 

 

Edited Saturday at 03:18 AM by stevestojan

[Big Blitz]

20 minutes ago, stevestojan said:

I’m sure it was a lab leak (I thought that was common knowledge at this point), but claiming it’s now “proven” because Trump ordered someone to create a webpage that looks like someone in HTLM101 in 1997 would build, is a bit of a stretch. 
 

He controls the .gov websites so aren’t we really just transferring his truth social posts/opinions to a more official platform? 
 

My point is, there’s no “news” here. Nothing new. Just Trump’s opinion (that I happen to agree with, mind you) about the lab leak on the gaudiest website I’ve ever seen. And it’s an official government website. Wow. 

Also, here’s where I always get stuck with the republicans’ view on this. Republicans blasted masks, social distancing, and businesses being closed down. BUT at the same time, you want to blame China for leaking this. So, are you saying China’s best effort at biological warfare is something “just like the flu?” You think they were just sitting at a board meeting and said “how could we minority inconvenience a TON of people.” Honest question: was COVID just the flu, was it a chemical attack/leak by China, or was it both and China is just really bad at this?

 

 

 

The fact we were lied to - the WHO, CCP, Fauci - and the lengths to which they went to lie.  I’m 90 percent certain it was all a coordinated attack on the United States which was headed toward the re election of Trump.  China was facing economic and political upheaval and every country on earth sided with it during Covid no questions asked. 
 

Except Florida and Sweden.  
 

Fauci was taking orders from China.  He was no expert giving sound medical advice.  He was a CCP stooge.  
 

If a course correction does not happen March 2020 will be our Suez Canal moment.  The second we replaced Britain as the world’s superpower was when we told them to give up the canal.  
 

The second Covid happened and every single statist CCP TDS deranged individual in this country went along no questions asked is the moment China replaced the U.S. as the world’s superpower.   

Edited Saturday at 03:29 AM by Big Blitz

[JDHillFan]

17 minutes ago, stevestojan said:

I’m sure it was a lab leak (I thought that was common knowledge at this point), but claiming it’s now “proven” because Trump ordered someone to create a webpage that looks like someone in HTLM101 in 1997 would build, is a bit of a stretch. 
 

He controls the .gov websites so aren’t we really just transferring his truth social posts/opinions to a more official platform? 
 

My point is, there’s no “news” here. Nothing new. Just Trump’s opinion (that I happen to agree with, mind you) about the lab leak on the gaudiest website I’ve ever seen. And it’s an official government website. Wow. 

Also, here’s where I always get stuck with the republicans’ view on this. Republicans blasted masks, social distancing, and businesses being closed down. BUT at the same time, you want to blame China for leaking this. So, are you saying China’s best effort at biological warfare is something “just like the flu?” You think they were just sitting at a board meeting and said “how could we moderately inconvenience a TON of people.”
 

Honest question: was COVID just the flu, was it a chemical attack/leak by China, or was it both and China is just really bad at this?

 

 

The likelihood that it leaked from a lab does not mean it was a malicious act. It was certainly an inept act. The coverup of the leak seems malicious. Also malicious - being called a racist for questioning the natural origin theory. 

[BillsFanNC]

1 hour ago, JDHillFan said:

The likelihood that it leaked from a lab does not mean it was a malicious act. It was certainly an inept act. The coverup of the leak seems malicious. Also malicious - being called a racist for questioning the natural origin theory. 

 

Working with a virus engineered to be 1000x more infective in humans under biosafety level 2 conditions is willfully inept. 

 

Even Quacks band of expert virologists would agree 

 

 

[Doc]

8 hours ago, stevestojan said:

I’m sure it was a lab leak (I thought that was common knowledge at this point), but claiming it’s now “proven” because Trump ordered someone to create a webpage that looks like someone in HTLM101 in 1997 would build, is a bit of a stretch. 
 

He controls the .gov websites so aren’t we really just transferring his truth social posts/opinions to a more official platform? 
 

My point is, there’s no “news” here. Nothing new. Just Trump’s opinion (that I happen to agree with, mind you) about the lab leak on the gaudiest website I’ve ever seen. And it’s an official government website. Wow. 

Also, here’s where I always get stuck with the republicans’ view on this. Republicans blasted masks, social distancing, and businesses being closed down. BUT at the same time, you want to blame China for leaking this. So, are you saying China’s best effort at biological warfare is something “just like the flu?” You think they were just sitting at a board meeting and said “how could we moderately inconvenience a TON of people.”
 

Honest question: was COVID just the flu, was it a chemical attack/leak by China, or was it both and China is just really bad at this?

 

I didn't see anyone saying that it's definitively been proven true just because it's on the website.  Many of us figured it came from the lab early on and it had nothing to do with Trump saying it or being xenophobic: it just made the most sense (Occam's razor). 

 

As time has gone by and not a single animal has been found to corroborate the wet market theory, there is no choice but to say it came from the lab.  We won't ever get 100% proof unless China admits it, but that's never going to happen.

 

As for the virus, I think it escaped accidentally.  And my theory it was being engineered for release at a later date.

[Niagara Bill]

8 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

The fact we were lied to - the WHO, CCP, Fauci - and the lengths to which they went to lie.  I’m 90 percent certain it was all a coordinated attack on the United States which was headed toward the re election of Trump.  China was facing economic and political upheaval and every country on earth sided with it during Covid no questions asked. 
 

Except Florida and Sweden.  
 

Fauci was taking orders from China.  He was no expert giving sound medical advice.  He was a CCP stooge.  
 

If a course correction does not happen March 2020 will be our Suez Canal moment.  The second we replaced Britain as the world’s superpower was when we told them to give up the canal.  
 

The second Covid happened and every single statist CCP TDS deranged individual in this country went along no questions asked is the moment China replaced the U.S. as the world’s superpower.   

And of course the new efforts to shutdown CHEST medical mags and others is because they are also Chinese infiltration. Or just the new McCarthyism. 

 

[BillsFanNC]

35 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

I didn't see anyone saying that it's definitively been proven true just because it's on the website.  Many of us figured it came from the lab early on and it had nothing to do with Trump saying it or being xenophobic: it just made the most sense (Occam's razor). 

 

As time has gone by and not a single animal has been found to corroborate the wet market theory, there is no choice but to say it came from the lab.  We won't ever get 100% proof unless China admits it, but that's never going to happen.

 

As for the virus, I think it escaped accidentally.  And my theory it was being engineered for release at a later date.

 

We did see people say in early 2020, mere weeks after what we were told was the initial outbreak, that proximal origin was the final word. Follow the science. Case closed you science denying conspiracy theorists.

 

The fact that China won't open up its databases and notebooks from WIV only  bolsters the plainly obvious lab theory.

 

And then there's scientists who understand basic molecular biology and the exceedingly rare arginine codons in the spike protein furin cleavage site and the molecular fingerprints left behind by the restriction enzymes used to insert them into the viral genome.

Edited Saturday at 12:37 PM by BillsFanNC

[Doc]

15 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

We did see people say in early 2020, mere weeks after what we were told was the initial outbreak, that proximal origin was the final word. Follow the science. Case closed you science denying conspiracy theorists.

 

The fact that China won't open up its databases and notebooks from WIV only  bolsters the plainly obvious lab theory.

 

And then there's scientists who understand basic molecular biology and the exceedingly rare arginine codons in the spike protein furin cleavage site and the molecular fingerprints left behind by the restriction enzymes used to insert them into the viral genome.

 

When I first heard, early on, that there was a BSL-4 lab in Wuhan studying the virus, I knew it came from there.  China's evasiveness and deception just proved it to me. 

 

Now, I was open to the wet market theory, but unless/until they found the animal, it was never the explanation.  And so far, over 5 years later, they still haven't found it and you can be sure China's been looking for it every single day since it first happened.

[BillsFanNC]

3 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

When I first heard, early on, that there was a BSL-4 lab in Wuhan studying the virus, I knew it came from there.  China's evasiveness and deception just proved it to me. 

 

Now, I was open to the wet market theory, but unless/until they found the animal, it was never the explanation.  And so far, over 5 years later, they still haven't found it and you can be sure China's been looking for it every single day since it first happened.

 

Yup, and previous outbreaks from decades past identified the intermediate host species within months.

 

The scientific surveillance toolbox is way more advanced today. And five years later? Bupkis.

 

 

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

34 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

When I first heard, early on, that there was a BSL-4 lab in Wuhan studying the virus, I knew it came from there.  China's evasiveness and deception just proved it to me. 

 

Now, I was open to the wet market theory, but unless/until they found the animal, it was never the explanation.  And so far, over 5 years later, they still haven't found it and you can be sure China's been looking for it every single day since it first happened.

What's left unanswered is the motivations for American scientific and government experts to lie?

[Wacka]

It was over 40 years ago. but when I was in grad school (was in Molecular Biology), any publication that came out of China was considered  a pile of dung. Nothing could be reproduced. 

[Big Blitz]

 

[BillsFanNC]

1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

What's left unanswered is the motivations for American scientific and government experts to lie?

 

Expert scientists are motivated to be corrupt liars just like in every other institution and discipline.

 

It's publish or perish in academia.  

 

Not following the science(TM)? 

 

No grants for you and no money to conduct research to publish.

 

Scrape out some funding and conduct research that isn't following the science (TM)? 

 

Good luck getting past peer review to publish.

 

They've got you six ways from Sunday to strangle your career while simultaneously dangling lucrative carrots to entice you to follow the science (TM).

 

 

[Doc]

Like I've said, everyone has an agenda and everyone likes/needs money.  When looking for what motivates people to do things, I look there first.

[Steve O]

As I said on page 3 of this thread, there are 2 possibilities:

1) A pandemic that originated in a town where the virus that caused the pandemic was being studied was caused by a leak in the lab where the virus was being studied. 

or

2) A pandemic that originated in a town where the virus that caused the pandemic was being studied occurred naturally. Total coincidence that likely patient zero was a lab employee.

The only thing that perplexes me more than #2 being offered as a possibility is that some people actually believed it! But this is a government tried to convince us that that the 9/11/2012 Benghazi attacks were a result of a spontaneous uprising rather than a planned event. Total coincidence that it occurred on 9/11.

 

Edited Saturday at 04:01 PM by Steve O