Brianmoorman4jesus Posted May 25 Posted May 25 I’m not sure how it’s even possible but the bears haven’t had a really good QB in the last like 60 years. To the point where I just assume this guy will let down lol Quote
machine gun kelly Posted May 25 Posted May 25 On 5/24/2024 at 2:29 AM, GETTOTHE50 said: They need a new head coach. Desperately. Mew coach, mgmt, owner and anything to reshape the team. It’s been a hot mess for decades. Quote
T master Posted May 25 Posted May 25 (edited) On 5/23/2024 at 10:09 PM, 78thealltimegreat said: I know he’s just getting used to the NFL but I always thought this talk of Caleb being this once in 5 year kinda talent was little off. Everytime I saw him go against a defense with a pulse in college he struggled. Hopefully that isn’t the case for the Bears sake. Well if you think about most of the QB's in the last say 20 yrs that have come out of USC how many have gone on to have really successful careers ? The Bills have had a couple and at best they have all been back ups or have made better commentators than NFL - QB's . Matt Barkley, Matt Lienert, Sam Darnold, Mark Sanchez,Carson Palmer is probably the best of the bunch then Buffalo surely can't forget Rob Johnson, so i would say that USC isn't a QB factory by any means . A lot of them come out as highly touted NFL QB prospects but for the most part they never pan out ... I hate to say it but Caleb WIlliams could be just one more in a long line of back ups that have came out of USC . Edited May 25 by T master 1 Quote
Udubalum07 Posted May 25 Posted May 25 On 5/24/2024 at 5:32 AM, mannc said: That’s not fair at all. He’s Sam Darnold 2.0. I agree Darnold would be a much better comparison for his skill set. Remember Darnold was known as a great playmaker in college. He was known for his ability to make plays after it broke down. It just end up translating to the pros. Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted May 25 Posted May 25 On 5/23/2024 at 11:09 PM, 78thealltimegreat said: I know he’s just getting used to the NFL but I always thought this talk of Caleb being this once in 5 year kinda talent was little off. Everytime I saw him go against a defense with a pulse in college he struggled. Hopefully that isn’t the case for the Bears sake. I love how the tweet calls him a “star” already. The guy hasn’t played a down of pro football. Will laugh my ass off if he completely sucks for the Bears. Quote
Magox Posted May 25 Posted May 25 I honestly don’t know how he will turn out but there is something about him that seems too scripted and I just can’t help thinking of all those end of season failures he had when it mattered most. Idk, I don’t believe he is what many people think of being this sure fire All pro player. He could end being that guy, he certainly has phenomenal off-schedule QB abilities but I have my doubts. 2 1 Quote
Tulsabillsfanz Posted May 25 Posted May 25 I watched him play as a freshman at Oklahoma and he was incredible. He has a very high football IQ & is extremely competitive. I hated to see him follow Lincoln Riley to USC. I believe he also has the physical attributes to be successful in the NFL. I will be surprised if he doesn’t become a very good NFL QB & I am very happy he’s in the NFC. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted May 25 Posted May 25 but i read here that the Bears are now a well run franchise Quote
wppete Posted May 25 Posted May 25 On 5/23/2024 at 11:41 PM, GASabresIUFan said: Justin Fields 2.0. Not even close. Justin Fields should never have been a starter and 2nd or 3rd string QB at best 1 Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted May 25 Posted May 25 31 minutes ago, wppete said: Not even close. Justin Fields should never have been a starter and 2nd or 3rd string QB at best You do realize that Fields had a higher completion % and a higher passer rating in college then Williams did? Quote
EasternOHBillsFan Posted May 25 Posted May 25 1 hour ago, wppete said: Not even close. Justin Fields should never have been a starter and 2nd or 3rd string QB at best He was drafted by an organization known for being a toilet for QB prospects... all of them get flushed. Justin Fields had everything he needed until he got to the Bears. 1 Quote
SirAndrew Posted May 25 Posted May 25 At the risk of sounding abrasive, did anyone actually watch USC football? I’m seeing a lot of criticism about Williams’ late season meltdowns USC. It sounds like something people are parroting from random pundits. USC the team had late season meltdowns, but it wasn’t always Williams’ fault. This Lincoln Riley coached team simply can’t play defense. The USC offense often put plenty of points on board, but lost high scoring games. Williams looked good more often than not. I’m not promising he’ll be a success, but I can’t go along with this narrative. 2 hours ago, Tulsabillsfanz said: I watched him play as a freshman at Oklahoma and he was incredible. He has a very high football IQ & is extremely competitive. I hated to see him follow Lincoln Riley to USC. I believe he also has the physical attributes to be successful in the NFL. I will be surprised if he doesn’t become a very good NFL QB & I am very happy he’s in the NFC. He can make throws that other guys simply can’t. That’s what separates him from players like Fields coming out of college. The ability to make spectacular throws seems to be a defining characteristic of successful NFL QB’s these days. 1 Quote
NewEra Posted May 25 Posted May 25 1 hour ago, SirAndrew said: At the risk of sounding abrasive, did anyone actually watch USC football? I’m seeing a lot of criticism about Williams’ late season meltdowns USC. It sounds like something people are parroting from random pundits. USC the team had late season meltdowns, but it wasn’t always Williams’ fault. This Lincoln Riley coached team simply can’t play defense. The USC offense often put plenty of points on board, but lost high scoring games. Williams looked good more often than not. I’m not promising he’ll be a success, but I can’t go along with this narrative. He can make throws that other guys simply can’t. That’s what separates him from players like Fields coming out of college. The ability to make spectacular throws seems to be a defining characteristic of successful NFL QB’s these days. 💯 Quote
mannc Posted May 25 Posted May 25 7 hours ago, Udubalum07 said: I agree Darnold would be a much better comparison for his skill set. Remember Darnold was known as a great playmaker in college. He was known for his ability to make plays after it broke down. It just end up translating to the pros. The other thing they have in common is that neither takes good care of the football and both are/were hugely overrated. Quote
benderbender Posted May 25 Posted May 25 9 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: Mew coach, mgmt, owner and anything to reshape the team. It’s been a hot mess for decades. A mew coach is more likable than a hiss coach 2 Quote
Mikie2times Posted May 26 Posted May 26 6 hours ago, SirAndrew said: At the risk of sounding abrasive, did anyone actually watch USC football? I’m seeing a lot of criticism about Williams’ late season meltdowns USC. It sounds like something people are parroting from random pundits. USC the team had late season meltdowns, but it wasn’t always Williams’ fault. This Lincoln Riley coached team simply can’t play defense. The USC offense often put plenty of points on board, but lost high scoring games. Williams looked good more often than not. I’m not promising he’ll be a success, but I can’t go along with this narrative. He can make throws that other guys simply can’t. That’s what separates him from players like Fields coming out of college. The ability to make spectacular throws seems to be a defining characteristic of successful NFL QB’s these days. I didn't see Williams do very much that was designed. He was however a complete freak off schedule. To me he is a poor mans Josh Allen. Does not have all the athletic skill Allen has but a talented kid. Will he be able to reinvent himself to be more structured? Josh was able to do it enough. 1 1 Quote
Charles Romes Posted May 26 Posted May 26 I don’t know how the idea has taken hold that being short is no longer a detriment to playing QB. Watching the best really short QB hit the wall at 32, Kyler hurt all the time, Bryce disaster. Doesn’t matter, keep picking them number 1 Quote
RiotAct Posted May 26 Posted May 26 15 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I’m not sure how it’s even possible but the bears haven’t had a really good QB in the last like 60 years. To the point where I just assume this guy will let down lol yeah who were their best couple QBs since like 1980, anyway??? McMahon and Cutler? Quote
Cheektowaga Chad Posted May 26 Posted May 26 I feel a thread like this starts every off season and then said player is an all pro Quote
Buffalo716 Posted May 26 Posted May 26 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Charles Romes said: I don’t know how the idea has taken hold that being short is no longer a detriment to playing QB. Watching the best really short QB hit the wall at 32, Kyler hurt all the time, Bryce disaster. Doesn’t matter, keep picking them number 1 Caleb Williams is not small or short LOL Hes 6'1 7/8 lol so 6'2 220 lb He is the strongest quarterback in the pocket in his draft class He isn't Bryce Young Edited May 26 by Buffalo716 1 Quote
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