Popular Post Buffalo716 Posted May 22 Popular Post Posted May 22 (edited) I very rarely... Will make a thread dedicated to a guard But after drafting this mountain of a man last season... And him playing every single snap last season Read that again... Every single snap last season... The only Buffalo Bill to do so I had to go back and rewatch... O'Cyrus Now it's typical for any rookie lineman have ups and downs... They ebb and flow But the size and power with the short area burst he displayed was excellent... People talk about some right guards playing in a phone booth... Because the condensed area and need for quickness But he is the phone booth... A true old school Right guard... Who is thick enough to anchor yet has hands that counter hard He looks every bit like a multiple Time pro bowler who will be able to move the LoS in a game of inches The bills nailed their top two picks last season but in a league with a shortage of great lineman This pic hits as an A++ Edited May 22 by Buffalo716 41 12 6 8 Quote
Blainorama5 Posted May 22 Posted May 22 He quietly had an outstanding season last year! Hoping he becomes a long-time anchor over there going forward. 3 5 Quote
julian Posted May 22 Posted May 22 One of the best picks of this front office since they’ve been here. 4 6 1 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted May 22 Posted May 22 Torrence was the guy I wanted before last draft. I was delighted he fell to us in the second round. For a rookie, he looked really good. And I think having a solid RG helped Spencer Brown as the season went on and communication between the two got better. They were beaten on stunts a fair amount, especially early on in the season. I think more reps with Brown will make them pretty solid for this year. 7 Quote
SCBills Posted May 22 Posted May 22 Seems like they learned by taking VPG this year. Center only, but a darn good one who slid due to lack of position flex. Can’t have all guys like that on the OL, but if they’re starter caliber, you have a potential need & your depth has flex, there’s some steals to be had on the OL. 7 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted May 22 Author Posted May 22 Just now, HOUSE said: But this is a guard They get paid more than centers now.. it's tougher to play guard in the modern NFL than center They physically take on more one-on-one blocks... Center gets more combination blocks and there are very few physically imposing zero techs who play that technique every snap Guards take on dominant three techniques one-on-one 2 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted May 22 Posted May 22 6 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Torrence was the guy I wanted before last draft. I was delighted he fell to us in the second round. For a rookie, he looked really good. And I think having a solid RG helped Spencer Brown as the season went on and communication between the two got better. They were beaten on stunts a fair amount, especially early on in the season. I think more reps with Brown will make them pretty solid for this year. That is me 100%. 2 1 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted May 22 Posted May 22 53 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I very rarely... Will make a thread dedicated to a guard But after drafting this mountain of a man last season... And him playing every single snap last season Read that again... Every single snap last season... The only Buffalo Bill to do so I had to go back and rewatch... O'Cyrus Now it's typical for any rookie lineman have ups and downs... They ebb and flow But the size and power with the short area burst he displayed was excellent... People talk about some right guards playing in a phone booth... Because the condensed area and need for quickness But he is the phone booth... A true old school Right guard... Who is thick enough to anchor yet has hands that counter hard He looks every bit like a multiple Time pro bowler who will be able to move the LoS in a game of inches The bills nailed their top two picks last season but in a league with a shortage of great lineman This pic hits as an A++ It was insane to me that he was available at the end of Round 2. He was a 1st Round talent, one that was discussed at length as possibly being our 1st selection. I know Guard is a slightly devalued position, but his floor was as a pick at the top of Round 2. Absolute steal. 1 2 Quote
TBBills Fan Posted May 22 Posted May 22 42 minutes ago, HOUSE said: But this is a guard They are 100m dollar men now! 1 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted May 22 Posted May 22 Torrence was great most of the year. I thought he started to struggle in pass blocking as the season wore on. Don't know if that was the rookie wall or if teams started to scheme against him better. I would not be shocked if he is second team All-Pro 1 Quote
JerseyBills Posted May 22 Posted May 22 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: I very rarely... Will make a thread dedicated to a guard But after drafting this mountain of a man last season... And him playing every single snap last season Read that again... Every single snap last season... The only Buffalo Bill to do so I had to go back and rewatch... O'Cyrus Now it's typical for any rookie lineman have ups and downs... They ebb and flow But the size and power with the short area burst he displayed was excellent... People talk about some right guards playing in a phone booth... Because the condensed area and need for quickness But he is the phone booth... A true old school Right guard... Who is thick enough to anchor yet has hands that counter hard He looks every bit like a multiple Time pro bowler who will be able to move the LoS in a game of inches The bills nailed their top two picks last season but in a league with a shortage of great lineman This pic hits as an A++ Yes! Absolute steal Future All Pro! 1 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted May 22 Posted May 22 So you’re saying he is an upgrade over Saffold and Vlad Ducasse? 11 1 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted May 22 Author Posted May 22 37 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: So you’re saying he is an upgrade over Saffold and Vlad Ducasse? I'm surprised you could spell ducasse 1 Quote
Yantha Posted May 22 Posted May 22 Great post Buffalo716! Give this man his credit. The crazy thing is that he will continue to develop and get better each year. I could see him as a pro-bowl player sooner than later. 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted May 22 Author Posted May 22 1 minute ago, Yantha said: Great post Buffalo716! Give this man his credit. The crazy thing is that he will continue to develop and get better each year. I could see him as a pro-bowl player sooner than later. He's gonna absolutely be considered one of the best guards in football within a few seasons With a little bit of seasoning... The sky is the limit with his strength Quote
BigAl2526 Posted May 22 Posted May 22 I think injury is the only thing that could stop the Bills from having an outstanding offensive line this season, and they are probably better prepared to deal with injury than last season. Quote
billsfan89 Posted May 22 Posted May 22 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: He's gonna absolutely be considered one of the best guards in football within a few seasons With a little bit of seasoning... The sky is the limit with his strength I thought for sure there would be many teams who took interior offensive linemen ahead of Torrence in round 2 that would regret not taking Torrence. But the interior offensive line class of 2023 was insanely stacked at least on the early returns. The following IOL players were taken before Torrence Steve Avila (Rams) Matthew Bergeron (Falcons) Joe Tippman (Jets) Cody Mauch (Bucs) John Michael Schmitz (Giants) Four out of Five of those players had really strong rookie seasons. Only John Michael Schmitz from the Giants had a "bad" rookie year. And to show you how insane that second round was Juice Scruggs was drafted 3 picks after Torrence and he had a good rookie year as well. That's 6 IOL out of 7 selected in round 2 having strong rookie seasons. And even the lone outlier John Michael Schmitz was a very strong prospect and can easily turn it around. We could be look at 6-7 starting caliber to All-Pro caliber IOL drafted in a single round. As a reference just two IOL players were drafted this past draft (Powers Johnson and Frazier) so just 7 being drafted is pretty high. Edited May 22 by billsfan89 5 Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted May 22 Posted May 22 I told my brother before the draft, I wanted them to take the guard with the biggest ass and mean streak and plug him in week one Torrance has that ass 1 6 Quote
WMDman Posted May 22 Posted May 22 As a gators fan I was banging the table for him in the first and then to get him in the second?!? I was floored 1 Quote
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