Richard Noggin Posted May 23 Posted May 23 On 5/21/2024 at 9:43 AM, HappyDays said: Somewhat of a long read but worth your time. One nugget that I found interesting: There's a much publicized quote from Beane after the draft where he said something to the effect of "it will be hard for Coleman to start from day one." This is the messaging the team always puts out there for their rookies to hear. But he let slip their real plans in the chaos of draft weekend - Coleman is going to be the early favorite for the starting X receiver. And based on this article I think he's going to quickly earn the trust of the coaching staff and win that role. Really interesting where the author did (and did NOT) project Coleman's value to be seen, schematically: "Both Diggs and Gabe Davis departed this offseason, leaving the Bills sorely lacking in the receiver room. Coleman will work toward getting a major share of the 241 targets that went to them last season. He will work to become Allen's favorite target both inside and outside the structure of the Buffalo offense. The rookie receiver will fight for jump balls, he'll find holes in zone coverage, and he'll work his way toward Allen when the QB gets creative on the move. That'll all require rapport, and they're already planning to work out this offseason at Allen's place in Wyoming. Coleman's path to the No. 1 spot starts there." No mention of winning against press-man coverage on the outside, which of course is the most persistent criticism of his college tape. Quote
Rampant Buffalo Posted May 23 Posted May 23 3 hours ago, starrymessenger said: Help me out. Wasn't his actual ras 9.23? If so isn't that pretty good as far as athleticism is concerned? I'd love for you to be right about this! The way I see it, there are several possible outcomes for Coleman. 1) Bust 2) Significant disappointment 3) Stevie Johnson level play, ideally for at least 7 years in a Bills uniform. 4) Eric Moulds level play. 5) Hall of Fame level play. I'd be happy with outcome 3). Not thrilled to the point where I'd be doing naked cartwheels down the street. Which perhaps is just as well, because I'm no good at cartwheels. But I'd be happy. Anything over and above outcome 3 is even better. 1 Quote
starrymessenger Posted May 23 Posted May 23 4 hours ago, Rampant Buffalo said: I'd love for you to be right about this! The way I see it, there are several possible outcomes for Coleman. 1) Bust 2) Significant disappointment 3) Stevie Johnson level play, ideally for at least 7 years in a Bills uniform. 4) Eric Moulds level play. 5) Hall of Fame level play. I'd be happy with outcome 3). Not thrilled to the point where I'd be doing naked cartwheels down the street. Which perhaps is just as well, because I'm no good at cartwheels. But I'd be happy. Anything over and above outcome 3 is even better. I think you'll be alright. Quote
Mat68 Posted May 23 Posted May 23 9 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: It's an estimated score because he did not complete all of the drills Yet , his RAS, relative athletic score... Is over 8.1 which shows the type of athlete he is at his size Correct the size and athleticism is what makes him unique. Not many football players play 2 sports in college or get recruited to play both at a power 5 school. Has the tools and is being dropped into an elite passing game with an elite qb with 200 targets up for grab. He will have a very impactful season. Quote
Buffaloflash Posted May 24 Posted May 24 On 5/21/2024 at 10:12 AM, nedboy7 said: Good to see the miserable few immediately invade and sh*t on this thread. You know, but I hear ya. Quote
PBF81 Posted May 24 Posted May 24 (edited) On 5/21/2024 at 11:41 AM, HappyDays said: It's May. Talk is all you'll get for a few months... Doesn't alter the fact that talk is cheap though. Edited May 24 by PBF81 Quote
LabattBlue Posted May 24 Posted May 24 On 5/23/2024 at 3:42 AM, Rampant Buffalo said: I'd love for you to be right about this! The way I see it, there are several possible outcomes for Coleman. 1) Bust 2) Significant disappointment 3) Stevie Johnson level play, ideally for at least 7 years in a Bills uniform. 4) Eric Moulds level play. 5) Hall of Fame level play. I'd be happy with outcome 3). Not thrilled to the point where I'd be doing naked cartwheels down the street. Which perhaps is just as well, because I'm no good at cartwheels. But I'd be happy. Anything over and above outcome 3 is even better. So he may be great, may be terrible, or may end up somewhere in between. Wow…I think that covers all the bases. 😂 Quote
Johnny Bravo Posted May 25 Posted May 25 On 5/21/2024 at 6:36 PM, Gugny said: His philosophy with regard to rookies has been one of his most glaring flaws. Hoping he can let his arrogance stop getting in the way. This just isn’t true. 2017-white, dawkins, jones, Milano all started (so did Peterman for about 30 minutes) 2018-Josh, Edmunds, Phillips, Johnson all started 2019-Oliver, Singletary, Ford, and Knox all started 2020-no starters 2021-Spencer brown started and I think Rousseau started some games as well 2022-Benford started 2023-Kincaid, Torrance started As our team has gotten better, it has gotten harder for rookies to earn a starting role. Why ascribe the decision to not start rookies to arrogance? Or, for that matter, which rookies should have started besides the ones I listed? 1 Quote
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