Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Thought I'd throw a list together of who I believe will make final roster - not necessarily a depth chart 2 - QB - Allen, Trubisky 4 - RB - Cook, Davis, Johnson, Gilliam 6 - WR - Coleman, Shakir, Samuel, MVS, Hollins, Hamler 3 - TE - Kincaid, Knox, Morris 9 - OL - Dawkins, Edwards, McGovern, Torrence, Brown, VPG, Van Demark, Anderson, Collins 10 - DL - Rousseau, Jones, Oliver, Epenesa, Miller, Carter, Johnson, Smoot, Solomon, Williams 6 - LB - Milano, Bernard, Williams, Spector, Ulofoshio, Jones 6 - CB - Douglas, Benford, Elam, Johnson, Hardy, Lovely (I like his name :)) 4 - S - Bishop, Edwards, Rapp, Lewis 3 - Specialists - Bass, Martin, Ferguson KR/PR - My guess is Hardy or Shakir. Johnson potentially. I bolded the players I'd say are most likely players to not make the roster. What say you? Quote
Dave_Bills Posted May 15 Posted May 15 I think collins makes it. I don’t think Hamler makes it 1 Quote
billsfan89 Posted May 15 Posted May 15 (edited) Here's my breakdown Offense QB- Allen/Mitch (2 total) RB- Cook/Davis/Ty Johnson (3 total) FB- Gilliam (1) TE- Kincaid/Knox/Morris (3 total) WR- Shakir/Coleman/Samuel/MVS/Hollins/Shorter (6 total) OL- Dawkins/McGovern/SVPG/Torrence/Brown/Edwards/Van Denmark/Collins/Anderson (9 total) Offense- 24 total Defense DT- Ed Oliver/Daquon/Carter/Johnson/D.Williams (5 total) DE- Groot/AJE/Von/Solomon/Smoot (5 total) LB- Milano/Bernard/Dorian Williams/Ulofoshio/Morrow/Spector (6 total) CB- Douglas/Taron/Benford/Elam/Ingram/Hardy (6 total) S- Edwards/Bishop/Rapp/Cam Lewis (4 total) Defense total- 26 Specialist Bass/Martin/Ferguson Specialist Total- 3 Red Shirt on IR (I know you can't just put a player on IR but I think they will find a way like they did with Shorter) - Grabel On the bubble - Hamlin, Claypool, Deion Jones, and Toohill Edited to have correct numbers and make small change. Edited May 16 by billsfan89 Quote
Pete Posted May 15 Posted May 15 I know Reid Ferguson is one of the better long snappers in the NFL. But I have read reports SVPG is best long snapper some scouts have ever seen. Taking both the salary cap and roster spots into consideration, could Reid be a surprise cut? 1 Quote
Pete Posted May 15 Posted May 15 QB- Allen/Mitch (2 total) RB- Cook/Davis/Ty Johnson (3 total) FB- Gilliam (1) TE- Kincaid/Knox/Morris (3 total) WR- Shakir/Coleman/Samuel/MVS/Hollins/Shavers(6 total) OL- Dawkins/McGovern/SVPG/Torrence/Brown/Edwards/Van Denmark/Collins/Anderson/Grable (10 total) Offense- 25 total Defense DT- Ed Oliver/Daquon/Carter/Johnson/D.Williams (5 total) DE- Groot/AJE/Von/Solomon/Smoot/ (5 total) LB- Milano/Bernard/Dorian Williams/Ulofoshio/Morrow/Deion Jones (6 total) CB- Douglas/Taron/Benford/Elam/Ingram/Hardy (6 total) S- Edwards/Bishop/Rapp/Cam Lewis (4 total) Defense total- 26 Specialist Bass/Martin Specialist Total- 2 Quote
frostbitmic Posted May 15 Posted May 15 3 hours ago, billsfan89 said: Here's my breakdown Offense QB- Allen/Mitch (2 total) RB- Cook/Davis/Ty Johnson (3 total) FB- Gilliam (1) TE- Kincaid/Knox/Morris (3 total) WR- Shakir/Coleman/Samuel/MVS/Hollins/Shorter (6 total) OL- Dawkins/McGovern/SVPG/Torrence/Brown/Edwards/Van Denmark/Collins/Anderson (9 total) Offense- 23 total Defense DT- Ed Oliver/Daquon/Carter/Johnson/D.Williams (5 total) DE- Groot/AJE/Von/Solomon/Smoot/Jonathan (6 total) LB- Milano/Bernard/Dorian Williams/Ulofoshio/Morrow/Deion Jones (6 total) CB- Douglas/Taron/Benford/Elam/Ingram/Hardy (6 total) S- Edwards/Bishop/Rapp/Cam Lewis (4 total) Defense total- 27 Specialist Bass/Martin/Ferguson Specialist Total- 3 Red Shirt on IR (I know you can't just put a player on IR but I think they will find a way like they did with Shorter) - Grabel On the bubble - Hamlin, Claypool, Spector, and Toohill Count your Offense again, you have 24. Quote
Snappysnackcakes Posted May 15 Posted May 15 1 hour ago, Pete said: I know Reid Ferguson is one of the better long snappers in the NFL. But I have read reports SVPG is best long snapper some scouts have ever seen. Taking both the salary cap and roster spots into consideration, could Reid be a surprise cut? Sure hope not. He lives right down the road from me in Texas. 1 Quote
billsfan89 Posted May 15 Posted May 15 22 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: Count your Offense again, you have 24. Dam gotta cut someone probably would cut Shorter or Gilliam or a defensive linemen Quote
wppete Posted May 16 Posted May 16 I don’t think Gilliam makes the team this year. His spot will go to a WR or a LB this year who has special teams experience. 3 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted May 16 Posted May 16 (edited) 9 hours ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: Thought I'd throw a list together of who I believe will make final roster - not necessarily a depth chart 2 - QB - Allen, Trubisky 4 - RB - Cook, Davis, Johnson, Gilliam 6 - WR - Coleman, Shakir, Samuel, MVS, Hollins, Hamler 3 - TE - Kincaid, Knox, Morris 9 - OL - Dawkins, Edwards, McGovern, Torrence, Brown, VPG, Van Demark, Anderson, Collins 10 - DL - Rousseau, Jones, Oliver, Epenesa, Miller, Carter, Johnson, Smoot, Solomon, Williams 6 - LB - Milano, Bernard, Williams, Spector, Ulofoshio, Jones 6 - CB - Douglas, Benford, Elam, Johnson, Hardy, Lovely (I like his name :)) 4 - S - Bishop, Edwards, Rapp, Lewis 3 - Specialists - Bass, Martin, Ferguson KR/PR - My guess is Hardy or Shakir. Johnson potentially. I bolded the players I'd say are most likely players to not make the roster. What say you? My prediction is the same for the most part. Except for at a couple spots: WR: I'm torn on WR6. But I'm pretty positive it won't be Hamler. He's this year's Isabella. A guy from the 2nd who busted off his Drafted team and is now on his 3rd team in less than a year. Even if he performs well late in Pre-Season games with Trubisky/Buechele, that's not going to be enough that a team is going to put him on their 53, cold, to start the season (as it wasn't with Isabella). Knowing we can easily get him back on the Practice Squad if we cut him, makes him an easy cut. As for who WR6 will be, my guess is either Justin Shorter or Chase Claypool. Wild Card being Quintez Cephus. He produced well before only being cut for Gambling and probably had other options after reinstatement. All things equal, it would be Shorter, being a Draft investment and young Draftees who never got a shot are usually the ones who get a look from other teams. If he doesn't show anything, Claypool or Cephus. CB: I don't think Lovely makes it. I think we'll be bringing in a veteran FA CB when White's money comes in a couple weeks. Douglas replaced White and Hardy replaced Neal. But we did nothing to replace Dane Jackson. And with Benford's injury issues and Elam's shaky development, I don't see us relying only on UDFA's and PS guys for the other perimeter spot on the 53. 57 minutes ago, wppete said: I don’t think Gilliam makes the team this year. His spot will go to a WR or a LB this year who has special teams experience. Gilliam is safer than he ever has been. Special Teams experience? Gilliam is one of our core STer's. And we've moved on from a number of those already. They're going to want to keep some continuity there. Edited May 16 by BillsFanForever19 1 1 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted May 16 Posted May 16 6 hours ago, billsfan89 said: Here's my breakdown Offense QB- Allen/Mitch (2 total) RB- Cook/Davis/Ty Johnson (3 total) FB- Gilliam (1) TE- Kincaid/Knox/Morris (3 total) WR- Shakir/Coleman/Samuel/MVS/Hollins/Shorter (6 total) OL- Dawkins/McGovern/SVPG/Torrence/Brown/Edwards/Van Denmark/Collins/Anderson (9 total) Offense- 23 total Defense DT- Ed Oliver/Daquon/Carter/Johnson/D.Williams (5 total) DE- Groot/AJE/Von/Solomon/Smoot/Jonathan (6 total) LB- Milano/Bernard/Dorian Williams/Ulofoshio/Morrow/Deion Jones (6 total) CB- Douglas/Taron/Benford/Elam/Ingram/Hardy (6 total) S- Edwards/Bishop/Rapp/Cam Lewis (4 total) Defense total- 27 Specialist Bass/Martin/Ferguson Specialist Total- 3 Red Shirt on IR (I know you can't just put a player on IR but I think they will find a way like they did with Shorter) - Grabel On the bubble - Hamlin, Claypool, Spector, and Toohill I agree with every position group listed here EXCEPT...LB. Can't see Spector getting exposed to waivers so the Bills can keep TWO OLD BACKUPS instead. I'd argue Morrow and Jones are competing against each other for one vet spot. Otherwise, I align with your roster projection. *Love the whisper in this thread that SVPG is actually an elite long snapper prospect?!? What a beautiful way to potentially open up some roster flexibility. Is that real? 1 2 Quote
TBBills Fan Posted May 16 Posted May 16 (edited) 5 hours ago, Pete said: I know Reid Ferguson is one of the better long snappers in the NFL. But I have read reports SVPG is best long snapper some scouts have ever seen. Taking both the salary cap and roster spots into consideration, could Reid be a surprise cut? Interesting question for sure. I would say it would be foolish not to open a roster spot if he has the goods as a long snapper Edited May 16 by TBBills Fan Quote
YattaOkasan Posted May 16 Posted May 16 (edited) 1 hour ago, TBBills Fan said: Interesting question for sure. I would say it would be foolish not to open a roster spot if he has the goods as a long snapper Meh I think it’s foolish too pursue. Practice rules make it hard for him to do both long snapper and backup center. Same reason back up QBs don’t hold much now. LS, P, K just go to another field and rep it a million times. I get the desire but this ain’t madden. Edited May 16 by YattaOkasan 1 2 Quote
GunnerBill Posted May 16 Posted May 16 12 hours ago, billsfan89 said: Here's my breakdown Offense QB- Allen/Mitch (2 total) RB- Cook/Davis/Ty Johnson (3 total) FB- Gilliam (1) TE- Kincaid/Knox/Morris (3 total) WR- Shakir/Coleman/Samuel/MVS/Hollins/Shorter (6 total) OL- Dawkins/McGovern/SVPG/Torrence/Brown/Edwards/Van Denmark/Collins/Anderson (9 total) Offense- 23 total Defense DT- Ed Oliver/Daquon/Carter/Johnson/D.Williams (5 total) DE- Groot/AJE/Von/Solomon/Smoot/Jonathan (6 total) LB- Milano/Bernard/Dorian Williams/Ulofoshio/Morrow/Deion Jones (6 total) CB- Douglas/Taron/Benford/Elam/Ingram/Hardy (6 total) S- Edwards/Bishop/Rapp/Cam Lewis (4 total) Defense total- 27 Specialist Bass/Martin/Ferguson Specialist Total- 3 Red Shirt on IR (I know you can't just put a player on IR but I think they will find a way like they did with Shorter) - Grabel On the bubble - Hamlin, Claypool, Spector, and Toohill Spector makes it. I think he is much closer to a lock than fans think. Core STer on a unit that just lost leaders and actually played pretty well when he had to go in at LBer. 1 2 Quote
Chandler#81 Posted May 16 Posted May 16 Sans 2 or maybe 3 players -not mentioning critical pre season injuries- I think every true Bills fan can accurately anticipate the final roster now. A plethora of jags at WR will be pared down significantly, at least 2 rookies will start immediately and a couple more will be rotational players. We may see 2 new kickers though.. Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted May 16 Posted May 16 14 hours ago, Pete said: I know Reid Ferguson is one of the better long snappers in the NFL. But I have read reports SVPG is best long snapper some scouts have ever seen. Taking both the salary cap and roster spots into consideration, could Reid be a surprise cut? No. There's a reason why LS is its own roster spot. Here's the thing. Let's say things stay where some think they will and McGovern is the starting C. SVGP is the likely backup. What happens if McGovern gets hurt? SVGP is now starting. You do not want your LS exposed to injury risk over the course of a game...so chances are they would need to sub him out on STs. It's not a position that just anyone can do... especially with the variance of snap distance between a punt and FG/EP. Throw into that on the FG team it has to be an expert snap each time into a small window with a kneeling down target. These things take reps, practice and skill. Ferguson is one of the best in the game. We've seen games (even playoff games) decided by a substitute snapper. Quote
gonzo1105 Posted May 16 Posted May 16 Shorter/Shavers over Hamler due to STs Either Claypool or Hamler or both will be on PS in case of WR injuries Quote
JGMcD2 Posted May 16 Posted May 16 15 hours ago, Pete said: I know Reid Ferguson is one of the better long snappers in the NFL. But I have read reports SVPG is best long snapper some scouts have ever seen. Taking both the salary cap and roster spots into consideration, could Reid be a surprise cut? Long snapper or shotgun snapper? I haven’t seen anything about him being a long snapper… Quote
billsfan89 Posted May 16 Posted May 16 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Spector makes it. I think he is much closer to a lock than fans think. Core STer on a unit that just lost leaders and actually played pretty well when he had to go in at LBer. I will be honest that I was not aware that Spector was that good of a ST player. If that's the case I think you then swap in Spector and swap out one of the vets. Quote
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