Harrison Butker…oy vey…what a commencement “speech”

[teef]

44 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

The Butker thread yesterday disappeared. But let's just say the things doing the rounds on the artist formerly known as twitter fall into the "the man doth protest too much" in regards to the "deadly sins" section of his speech. And he wouldn't be the first. 

He played a little grab ass in college?

[4merper4mer]

8 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

One can live in section 8 housing, collect welfare and food stamps. 

 

😏

Poor people are never happy?   Money = happiness?

[Ray Stonada]

Who's canceling him? He's making millions, has three rings, getting invited to make commencement speeches. People on a message board are not allowed to criticize when he says something stupid?

 

By the way, I'm a father of two who is just as proud of that role as my work, and I went to Catholic School in Buffalo. Don't need a lecture on morals from a Chiefs kicker. 

[BillnutinHouston]

3 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said:

Who's canceling him? He's making millions, has three rings, getting invited to make commencement speeches. People on a message board are not allowed to criticize when he says something stupid?

 

By the way, I'm a father of two who is just as proud of that role as my work, and I went to Catholic School in Buffalo. Don't need a lecture on morals from a Chiefs kicker. 

 

I don't know about cancelling, but explain the NFL going all "The View" on him?  A very predictable anti-Catholic reflex that's all the rage right now.

 

And, this obviously political topic/post needs to be taken off the main page.

 

 

[eball]

37 minutes ago, dorquemada said:

This is a great litmus test between people who will fall all over themselves promoting and defending The Current Thing, versus someone who espouses traditional values.  Free speech for me, canceling for thee

 

Women having careers is “the current thing?”  What an odd take.

 

[strive_for_five_guy]

So how does everyone like our Super Bowl chances this year?

[peterpan]

If you listen the whole speech and not the medias cutouts designed to create outrage, it’s not offensive at all, and basically correct.  He compliments his wife wonderfully. 
 

im actually quite surprised by the NFLs response.  It doesn’t read neutral at all.  Neutral would have been appropriate.  “Harrison Butker gave a speech in his personal capacity his views are not those of the NFL as an organization. The NFL is steadfast in our commitment to inclusion, which only makes our league stronger.”

 

There needed to be a “…. His views are not NECESSARILY those of the NFL…”. Like the disclaimer before infomercials.    
 

or am I reading into it too much?  Just seems like the NFL is knocking him down.  Which is ridiculous because the league stays mostly silent when players beat women, crash cars at high speeds, do other illegal things ….

[K D]

17 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said:

Who's canceling him? He's making millions, has three rings, getting invited to make commencement speeches. People on a message board are not allowed to criticize when he says something stupid?

 

By the way, I'm a father of two who is just as proud of that role as my work, and I went to Catholic School in Buffalo. Don't need a lecture on morals from a Chiefs kicker. 

 

[GunnerBill]

40 minutes ago, teef said:

He played a little grab ass in college?

 

He played a little something. In my experience it is always the religious straight ones who are really into it too....... 

[boyst]

8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He played a little something. In my experience it is always the religious straight ones who are really into it too....... 

That's an extreme allegation. Back it up with facts.

 

Otherwise this is a petulant attack on religion. I'm not religious, either. There's no god, no heaven, no hell, or anything.

 

Also, oddly a lot of replies are being scraped. 

[NeverOutNick]

I just watched the commencement speech for the first time. Am I missing something or was it a big who cares that the media again wants to blow up into something. It was boring like any other commencement speech and it was at a catholic university, so what did we expect it to be about. What did he say that is pissing everyone off? IMO, which thankfully I’m still allowed to have, he basically said he was grateful that his wife prioritized family and taking care of the home first over a career. Isn't that what we all want in our marriages? We should prioritize the home first so that our kids get some good morals in this jacked up world we’re throwing them out into. Now, he’s not the best public speaker or a wordsmith so things sound jumbled but he seemed genuine. Screw the media for attacking him. Would be nice if opinions were allowed to be had the same across the board in this country. He’s a kicker on an NFL team, not a politician running for office, let the man be. And I hate the chiefs so I'd be the first to attack if it was warranted lol

Edited May 17 by NeverOutNick

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, boyst said:

That's an extreme allegation. Back it up with facts.

 

 

You want my full body count?

[CoudyBills]

On 5/15/2024 at 12:41 PM, Logic said:

1.) I support the right of every American to espouse whatever opinion they want, even if I don't agree with what they say.

2.) His specific message seems pretty on-brand for the audience to whom he was speaking.

3.) His words are incredibly tone deaf and, as others have pointed out, do not acknowledge the reality that the lived experience of a rich man (and his wife) is likely quite different than that of most normal people, and is not necessarily relatable or applicable.

4.) It seems somewhat bizarre to tell a bunch of women who are about to graduate from college that they ought to stick to the kitchen instead.

5.) Anything else I could say would likely offend people, venture into PPP territory, or generally not be productive. Instead, I will just keep my mouth shut and take my cue from my friends in the south and say regarding Harrison Butker: "Bless his heart".

1.  You clearly do not abide by point 1.  Otherwise you wouldn't feel the need for point 5 unless you are just signaling for the rest of these...um...fine citizens.  Lol. This place.  

[boyst]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

You want my full body count?

No, I don't care. Just weird you're throwing it at Butker like he was some serial groper or something. 

[GunnerBill]

Just now, boyst said:

No, I don't care. Just weird you're throwing it at Butker like he was some serial groper or something. 

 

Not a serial groper. That wasn't my accusation. Just that the rumour mill is linking him to experiences at college that he would now consider "sin". And not just "sin". "Deadly Sin". Well I've sinned lots in that case and it hasn't been deadly yet. 

[ExiledInIllinois]

55 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

Poor people are never happy?   Money = happiness?

Can't buy happiness but it helps escape the daily hassles of life.

[Spiderweb]

Extremism regardless of the cause is inherently evil. 

[PBF81]

40 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

So how does everyone like our Super Bowl chances this year?

 

You're not in proper form here.  First of all, what does the Super Bowl have to do with football.  

 

Secondly, your not angry enough. 

 

I want you to get up right now and go to the window. Open it, and stick your head out, and yell, 'I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!' I want you to get up right now, sit up, go to your windows, open them and stick your head out and yell - 'I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Things have got to change. But first, you've gotta get mad!... You've got to say, 'I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Then we'll figure out what to do about the depression and the inflation and the oil crisis. But first get up out of your chairs, open the window, stick your head out, and yell, and say it: "I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!"I want you to get up right now and go to the window. Open it, and stick your head out, and yell, 'I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!' I want you to get up right now, sit up, go to your windows, open them and stick your head out and yell - 'I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Things have got to change. But first, you've gotta get mad!... You've got to say, 'I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Then we'll figure out what to do about the depression and the inflation and the oil crisis. But first get up out of your chairs, open the window, stick your head out, and yell, and say it: "I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!"

 

The most important takeaway, worry about others and other peoples' business first.  Don't worry about yourself or your own business.  

 

😉😁

 

 

[Bill from NYC]

What I don't understand is why anybody cares what a football player says at a parochial school graduation. 

 

When I was young I slept around big time and drank beer. If this guy made a speech condemning me and others of my ilk, I cannot stress enough how little I would care. If a person is gay, why would the comments of this person be of any importance at all to them? I'm being serious. I simply cannot fathom why anyone should care or even be injured in any way. Would said person stop being gay? Become more gay? 

 

I have three quite accomplished, wonderful daughters. They are proud women (and Bills fans LOL). If this person did make bad comments about women they would probably call him a name of sorts and completely forget about it the next day because comments like this are inconsequential in their busy lives. 

 

I think that today too many people think that everyone else simply HAS to agree with them. It is not a good omen for the country.

 

As always, jmo.

[strive_for_five_guy]

6 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

 

You're not in proper form here.  First of all, what does the Super Bowl have to do with football.  

 

Secondly, your not angry enough. 

 

I want you to get up right now and go to the window. Open it, and stick your head out, and yell, 'I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!' I want you to get up right now, sit up, go to your windows, open them and stick your head out and yell - 'I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Things have got to change. But first, you've gotta get mad!... You've got to say, 'I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Then we'll figure out what to do about the depression and the inflation and the oil crisis. But first get up out of your chairs, open the window, stick your head out, and yell, and say it: "I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!"I want you to get up right now and go to the window. Open it, and stick your head out, and yell, 'I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!' I want you to get up right now, sit up, go to your windows, open them and stick your head out and yell - 'I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Things have got to change. But first, you've gotta get mad!... You've got to say, 'I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Then we'll figure out what to do about the depression and the inflation and the oil crisis. But first get up out of your chairs, open the window, stick your head out, and yell, and say it: "I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!"

 

The most important takeaway, worry about others and other peoples' business first.  Don't worry about yourself or your own business.  

 

😉😁

 

 

Is Peacock still charging $7/month?  I’m mad as hell, and I’m not going to take it anymore!