Captain Hindsight Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 https://sny.tv/articles/jets-mailbag-confidence-level-nathanial-hackett Hell of an organization they got there “But then there’s Hackett. The Jets made legitimate attempts this offseason to hire someone who would, essentially, replace Hackett. Not as a new offensive coordinator, but a title above who would run the show. The Jets had enough things they needed to address this offseason without replacing areas they’re content with. That pursuit tells me, internally, there are legitimate concerns with Hackett’s ability to successfully run things.” 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 They should have just asked Bills fans before they hired this loser. 2 1 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Hackett may draw up the plays, but I think on game day it's going to be Aaron Rodgers calling the shots as long as he's healthy. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Aaron calls his own plays Hackett just gives him a concept he wants to run on a particular play. Maybe the Jets realize he can’t do that either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 lol, this trade and subsequent fallout just gets better and better. set the franchise back years, maybe a decade. they are so screwed. 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Probably around the time when they realized "With a shot of Ayahuasca," wasn't an actual play. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR8 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Rodgers has the same situation Brady and Manning had. They have a massive voice in game plan, packages, and play calls. One play comes in and there are 3-4 concept plays in the same formation that they can change to at the line. The OC "calls the play" but it's a play with multiple change options based on what the QB sees. I can see why an OC may not want to coach a guy like Rodgers where there's a ton of ego and a 99% chance he changes every play, but the blame falls on the OC of it goes wrong. Either way, they brought in Hackett for Rodgers, so if they wanted to put someone higher, odds are that too was with Rodgers okay. I love when teams do what the Jets have done here surrendering their franchise to a player. Cleveland and Watson, Denver with Wilson (and now they wear the cap hit to clean it up).... It basically never goes well. Manning to Denver & Brady to TB were like the only time super stars of this level going to a new team worked, and frankly thats largely because they're hyper competitive but they're not the same head cases these other dudes are. I'm sure both (especially Brady) are arrogant as hell, but they also "get it". Rodgers has proven time and again he only cares about Rodgers. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Hackett is trash. This was known prior to him even going to NY. The only reason he was hired is to appease Rodgers. He's like the wish.com version of Adam Gase. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Any time a division rival is in Turmoil is a very good thing for us, more sweat tent time for stoner boy will fix things right up down in Jersey…, 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 2 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: They should have just asked Bills fans before they hired this loser. I would have fully endorsed him! Perfect for any team that the Bills play twice annually. 2 2 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 6 hours ago, MR8 said: Rodgers has the same situation Brady and Manning had. They have a massive voice in game plan, packages, and play calls. One play comes in and there are 3-4 concept plays in the same formation that they can change to at the line. The OC "calls the play" but it's a play with multiple change options based on what the QB sees. I can see why an OC may not want to coach a guy like Rodgers where there's a ton of ego and a 99% chance he changes every play, but the blame falls on the OC of it goes wrong. Either way, they brought in Hackett for Rodgers, so if they wanted to put someone higher, odds are that too was with Rodgers okay. I love when teams do what the Jets have done here surrendering their franchise to a player. Cleveland and Watson, Denver with Wilson (and now they wear the cap hit to clean it up).... It basically never goes well. Manning to Denver & Brady to TB were like the only time super stars of this level going to a new team worked, and frankly thats largely because they're hyper competitive but they're not the same head cases these other dudes are. I'm sure both (especially Brady) are arrogant as hell, but they also "get it". Rodgers has proven time and again he only cares about Rodgers. The issue with Rodgers is he is a bad team player. He’s a “me guy” through and through. He demands control and sprints away from accountability, then publicly blames everybody around him. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mango said: The issue with Rodgers is he is a bad team player. He’s a “me guy” through and through. He demands control and sprints away from accountability, then publicly blames everybody around him. Absolutely. Rodgers did the same manure in Green Bay, but Green Bay is a backwater compared to the New York metro so his selfishness wasn't really spotlighted outside of Packers Nation. Not many Packers fans cried when Rodgers packed his bags and left for the Big Apple, and it's become very clear why. Edited May 14 by SoTier 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 8 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: https://sny.tv/articles/jets-mailbag-confidence-level-nathanial-hackett Hell of an organization they got there “But then there’s Hackett. The Jets made legitimate attempts this offseason to hire someone who would, essentially, replace Hackett. Not as a new offensive coordinator, but a title above who would run the show. The Jets had enough things they needed to address this offseason without replacing areas they’re content with. That pursuit tells me, internally, there are legitimate concerns with Hackett’s ability to successfully run things.” Hackett is the Peterson of the coaching ranks. He somehow is able to find these lucrative jobs in spite of mediocre performance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 8 hours ago, BigAl2526 said: Hackett may draw up the plays, but I think on game day it's going to be Aaron Rodgers calling the shots as long as he's healthy. 40 going on 41 coming off a serious injury. Tyrod Taylor will be starting many games for them this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 8 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: They should have just asked Bills fans before they hired this loser. I would have said “please do, give him a long term contract and all the control he asks for.” I try to be helpful where possible……as a Bills fan. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 9 hours ago, H2o said: Hackett is trash. This was known prior to him even going to NY. The only reason he was hired is to appease Rodgers. He's like the wish.com version of Adam Gase. "There’s nothing I look back on and say, 'I wish I would have done this over that.' " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 The Jets GM and HC know that this is their make it break it season. Playoffs or they'll all be out the door. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 10 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: lol, this trade and subsequent fallout just gets better and better. set the franchise back years, maybe a decade. they are so screwed. 17.1M Cap hit this year 51.5M next year if he plays - if he doesn't... it's a 49M cap hit and in 2026 they'd be free. If he does play then in 2026 they get 35M in dead cap. I think for them ideally he plays the next 2, Wilson and Sauce 5th year options are in 2026 so major extension money will begin in 2027. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) The nepotism in the NFL is wild. Don't get me wrong, nepotism is everywhere. It's amazing that a guy like Hackett, who should be an OC of a D3 football team at this point, is still getting chances. He basically destroyed the Broncos franchise. Edited May 14 by Bruffalo 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 10 hours ago, BigAl2526 said: Hackett may draw up the plays, but I think on game day it's going to be Aaron Rodgers calling the shots as long as he's healthy. Rodgers was apparently calling plays while injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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