Marquez Valdes-Scantling meeting with the Bills (UPDATE: Signed)

[BarleyNY]

23 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said:

I share your concern about the top end of our WR room, but thought WAS had a good WR corp last year with McLaurin, Samuel, Dotson (their QB play was so bad) and he was WR2 there.  He was there most successful WR and had the best catch %.

I agree with that. Samuel definitely has the potential to be a solid WR2. We’ve only seen that one season from him though - and garbage QB play is a fair caveat as to why. I am excited to see him with Allen (both as a Bills and Buckeye fan). 

[HomeskillitMoorman]

13 hours ago, HurlyBurly51 said:

4.37 for those interested😉

 

Would've piqued my interest 20 years ago maybe. What's his Gauntlet Speed?

[ngbills]

They have said it - replicating a Green Bay wr room. Bunch of ok players can do a bit of different things. No one guy. Let’s see how this plays out…I prefer having a true 1 and 2 add a vet and a bunch of randoms.

Don’t mind the move though. We’ll depending on the contract details. 

[BADOLBILZ]

9 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

What does Bean keep saying now? Your last game shows who your players really are. The Bills' current stumbling block is getting out of the conference to the SB.

 

MVS has played in three conference championship games:

 

2020: 4 catches for 115 yards and 1 TD

2022: 6 catches for 116 yards and 1 TD

2023: 2 catches for 38 yards but caught the game clinching 32 yarder with 2 minutes to go

 

 

 

The problem with what they have now will be even getting TO the playoffs with this bottom 1/3 of the league WR group.

 

All 4 vets they added are guys coming off down seasons by their standards.

 

For guys like MVS, Claypool and Hollins those downs are quite significant from the seasons prior.   

 

But, yeah.   In the postseason MVS has had success and hasn't dropped passes.   I just don't think that past is very relevant now because he looks to have washed ashore last season.   

[stuvian]

suddenly a solid WR room

[Udubalum07]

I think the absolute best case scenario is that Claypool realizes this is his last chance puts in a lot of work, and realizes his potential.  I think it is a REALLY big long shot, but that would be ideal. I think he has legit top ten receiver talent if he worked at it. You

 

As for MVS, as others have men mentioned, it gives us better depth.  The push for big receivers is evident rather than relying on guys like Sherfield and Harty trying to run routes down the field.  Even Diggs in the 2nd half of the year was not reliable. 

 

I like the change in philosophy. 

[MPL]

If they put MVS on the ball and allow Coleman to line up off the ball or in the slot more frequently, then I think this is a very good thing for Coleman's potential to make an impact this year. 

[MJS]

Way better depth than last year. That's for sure. Relying on Sherfield and Harty shot us in the foot multiple times last year.

[BADOLBILZ]

7 minutes ago, stuvian said:

suddenly a solid WR room

 

 

Yeah if they keep 7 and the last 3 veteran additions suddenly become un-washed they will have a little bit of everything.

 

Reminds me of those drought years when they couldn't pass the ball but the toughest decision in camp was whether to keep a 7th WR and which one.

 

When you have a high quality WR corps you only need to keep 5.

[Nihilarian]

It's called coaching and we will see if Bills AC Adam Henry is up to the task to get these men up to the task.

[aristocrat]

Do people really think Hollins is gonna be on the field this year? 

[GoBills808]

13 minutes ago, stuvian said:

suddenly a solid WR room

Said nobody ever after the acquisition of MVS

[dave mcbride]

16 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

The problem with what they have now will be even getting TO the playoffs with this bottom 1/3 of the league WR group.

 

All 4 vets they added are guys coming off down seasons by their standards.

 

For guys like MVS, Claypool and Hollins those downs are quite significant from the seasons prior.   

 

But, yeah.   In the postseason MVS has had success and hasn't dropped passes.   I just don't think that past is very relevant now because he looks to have washed ashore last season.   

I'm not judging it one way or another; just trying to find a reason for the interest, and this would seem to be one given his stated position on the final-game-of-the-season issue.

[billsfan89]

23 minutes ago, BananaB said:

Average vet that will slow the development of a young player. McDs way. Been doing it on Dline for years.

 

Who is MVS taking snaps away from that really should be getting snaps? Shakir, Samuel and Coleman should get their snaps in. Shorter is likely the only young player that is going to get snaps eaten into by MVS and I am fine with it as I think having a big speedy WR whose durable and experienced is a good add for a WR room that needs some veteran depth. 

[BigDingus]

I have zero confidence in MVS or Claypool to be anything other than minor contributors (if they make the final roster).

 

They're more likely to be a Jamison Crowder type vet. Situational, 4th or 5th option, depth in case of injury, or even getting injured themselves. 

[billsfan89]

2 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

Do people really think Hollins is gonna be on the field this year? 

Isn’t Hollins a special teams ace type player? I always thought of his acquisition as occupying the WR5 Jake Kummerow/Sherfield role of a special teams ace who can play WR a bit in case of injury or in 4/5 wide special sets a few snaps a game. 
 

I never thought they were going to go into the season with him as a WR unless there were injuries. The drafting of Coleman moved him down out of a top 3 spot now MVS has moved into the pure WR4 slot which firmly bumps Hollins down to WR5

[BuffaloBillyG]

15 hours ago, HappyDays said:

I'd be okay with this. We don't have a field stretching WR on the roster. He gives us a baseline for that role, albeit a low baseline.

 

Yeah, I'm good with this signing. He's got some issues and that's likely why he's still on the market to be had today. But he does have speed, playoff and Super Bowl experience and could be a decent role player.

 

Not only that, but it would (if he makes the team) be one less guy the Chiefs can turn to who already knows the offense in KC once they invariably need WR help during the season. 

[Sweats]

 

 

Surely, we could have done better than this, no?

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Yeah if they keep 7 and the last 3 veteran additions suddenly become un-washed they will have a little bit of everything.

 

Reminds me of those drought years when they couldn't pass the ball but the toughest decision in camp was whether to keep a 7th WR and which one.

 

When you have a high quality WR corps you only need to keep 5.

 

I don't see them keeping 7.  It comes out of either offensive or defensive line depth - where the depth actually plays considerable snaps, you also will likely have 2 inactive WRs on game day.  

 

Locks:

Coleman

Samuel

Shakir

ST - Depth Competition (Hollins has inside track with experience, but the cost is probably the same to keep anyone):

Hollins/Shavers/Cephus

Depth at primary boundary Competition (Probably keep 1, Shorter might end up on PS too):

Shorter/MVS/Claypool

Slot depth/Specialist Competition (Probably can stash either on PS and elevate if a samuel or shakir is injured):

Hamler/Isabella

[NeverOutNick]

24 minutes ago, ngbills said:

They have said it - replicating a Green Bay wr room. Bunch of ok players can do a bit of different things. No one guy. Let’s see how this plays out…I prefer having a true 1 and 2 add a vet and a bunch of randoms.

Don’t mind the move though. We’ll depending on the contract details. 

I don’t agree with all of this Green Bay WR room comparison. GB drafted young WRs and let them develop. They also have one of the best offensive minds in the game leading them in Lafleur. We have a bunch of retread players that didn’t hack it as top WRs on any of their previous stints. Shakir and Coleman are the only promising upcoming talents we have. The rest we are just crossing our fingers on