BarleyNY Posted May 14 Posted May 14 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: or I keep saying - heaven forbid Samuel rolls an ankle in a preseason game and misses September? Week 1 could get real thin real fast if Coleman is even slightly a project and either Shakir or Samuel miss any early reps Yup. We could be seeing a lot of 2 TE sets if that happens. Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted May 14 Posted May 14 (edited) Did we let him leave the building? Edited May 14 by SoonerBillsFan Quote
Bills Bud Posted May 14 Posted May 14 What a joke. Bringing in a bunch of jalopies when we just needed one Ferrari 2 3 Quote
somnus00 Posted May 14 Posted May 14 I hear he already dropped a pass from Josh. He'd fit right in with last year's WR group. Quote
Logic Posted May 14 Posted May 14 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Bills Bud said: What a joke. Bringing in a bunch of jalopies when we just needed one Ferrari Beane already maxed out the company credit card paying for the last few Ferraris, so jalopies are about all he can afford right now. Please check back next offseason. In the meantime, the Bills will ride the jalopies as far as they'll go before breaking down (the Divisional round, if recent history holds). Edited May 14 by Logic 1 1 Quote
HurlyBurly51 Posted May 14 Posted May 14 7 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Did we let him leave the building? F5 2 Quote
BigAl2526 Posted May 14 Posted May 14 Well, if the Bills want to bring him in to compete, there are worse WRs on the roster now that they can drop. Just don't spend too much money to sign him. Quote
Aussie Joe Posted May 14 Posted May 14 4 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said: Well, if the Bills want to bring him in to compete, there are worse WRs on the roster now that they can drop. Just don't spend too much money to sign him. They only have $2m left to spend at the moment …so it won’t be much even pushing some out with dummy years .. 1 Quote
Starr Almighty Posted May 14 Posted May 14 2 hours ago, appoo said: Game recognizes game in this case. Can't believe that nimrod in NY couldn't make use of him I wonder why he couldn't make use of him and before you say this is one play it's a pattern he does it alot 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted May 14 Posted May 14 (edited) 2 hours ago, Logic said: He's better than Quintez Cephus, KJ Hamler, Mack Hollins, and probably Chase Claypool. His career production relative to theirs makes this indisputable. He also provides a downfield threat that the Bills currently lack. Given what it will likely cost to sign him, I'd be fine with this. It would materially improve and diversify the Bills' WR corps. Not as much as we'd all like, of course, but the salary cap is the salary cap. The stats don’t support that. Chase Claypool had back to back 850+ yard seasons to start his career with a broken down Big Ben as the 3rd WR before his attitude got him traded to purgatory in Chicago and then at end of bench in Miami last year. MSV has never reached 700 yards in 6 years playing with prime Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes, including last year when the chiefs were desperate at WR and he only put up 315 yards. Even Mack Hollins has the same career high of 690 yards in a season as MVS does, except Hollins did it as the 3rd WR and playing with Carr instead of MVP Rodgers. Hollins has the better attitude of all 3. And he is a much better blocker, and better ST player too. Chase has the most raw ability and talent, but he’s got to his head right after JuJu poisoned him young. MVS just sucks at everything. His only hope of beating out Chase is that Chase hasn’t learned his lesson and doesn’t get his head right on what is likely his last chance before hitting CFL. I doubt he would beat out Hollins either as Hollins does more. Edited May 14 by Alphadawg7 5 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 14 Posted May 14 11 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said: I wonder why he couldn't make use of him and before you say this is one play it's a pattern he does it alot He also has made big plays in the playoffs. Quote
Simon Posted May 14 Posted May 14 23 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: The stats don’t support that. Chase Claypool had back to back 850+ yard seasons to start his career with a broken down Big Ben as the 3rd WR before his attitude got him traded to purgatory in Chicago and then at end of bench in Miami last year..... I know it makes no logical sense whatsoever but I am extremely intrigued by Chase Claypool during this particular chapter of his career. 1 3 1 1 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 14 Posted May 14 13 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: MVS just sucks at everything. His only hope of beating out Chase is that Chase hasn’t learned his lesson and doesn’t get his head right on what is likely his last chance before hitting CFL. I doubt he would beat out Hollins either as Hollins does more. He’s very good at getting behind the defense. Quote
Doc Brown Posted May 14 Posted May 14 Vertical threat nobody else brings. Do it. 2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Catching the damn ball is all that matters. Who cares how far downfield he gets if he's only going to drop it. Hard pass You want to keep those safeties back though even if he is a decoy of sorts. Quote
Mikie2times Posted May 14 Posted May 14 Sources deep from within tell me whatever this is could also involve Zach Ertz. 1 Quote
billsfan89 Posted May 14 Posted May 14 2 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: Sources deep from within tell me whatever this is could also involve Zach Ertz. 400 pages incoming... 1 Quote
Starr Almighty Posted May 14 Posted May 14 13 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: He also has made big plays in the playoffs. He makes a random catch here and there. 24 catches for 406 yards and scored 4 touchdowns in 11 games in the playoffs in his career. Last season he had 21 catches for 315 yards 1 TD during the season Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 14 Posted May 14 3 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said: He makes a random catch here and there. 24 catches for 406 yards and scored 4 touchdowns in 11 games in the playoffs in his career. Last season he had 21 catches for 315 yards 1 TD during the season So? He’s experienced depth. People here wanted OBJ and DJ Chark as our experienced depth. Completely unrealistic. People are talking about this guy like he’s not an upgrade over Trent Sherfield. 1 Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted May 14 Posted May 14 2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: Hollis, Claypool and MVS are three of the least efficient WRs I’ve ever seen. All three of them under one offense would be like a squad full of Robert Royals. He is what Kolby Listenbee could have been if not for the sports hernia's. Adding him would leave them one Keon Coleman hammy strain away from meaningful games with elite ball-dropper MVS on one side and DK Decaf Shorter on the other side. What could go wrong? 1 4 Quote
billsfan89 Posted May 14 Posted May 14 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: So? He’s experienced depth. People here wanted OBJ and DJ Chark as our experienced depth. Completely unrealistic. People are talking about this guy like he’s not an upgrade over Trent Sherfield. MVS ran a 4.37 40 and while he's going to be 30 he's only played 6 seasons (not a lot of wear and tear so to speak), he's been durable and won two Super Bowls while being a somewhat productive player. The Bills are getting as about as good a low risk "experienced" depth option as they can get at this stage. 2 Quote
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