Mat68 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 28 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: I said it in another thread - I don't want any of them right now. I'd wait till the trade deadline. See how our offense is doing, and if necessary, trade for someone then. Some teams with bad record might want to trade a player and it will be cheaper than now. Seahawks, Titans, Raiders, Bucs and Rams all seem like a good potential candidates for this (from one OP listed). I think this is the best way. If the offense clicks with the young guys no need to make that size of commitment to the position. With Miller aging and Douglas on an expiring deal I think the hold there assets for a need. If the offense needs a boost and wr is a hole pull the trigger. If they can find cheap weapons they use those resources elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted May 13 Author Share Posted May 13 39 minutes ago, Logic said: If the compensation required is not too high, I'd say DeAndre Hopkins. He can be the immediate starting X, allowing Coleman to work in more gradually without needing to be THE GUY from day one. It would also allow Coleman to play more of the move/big slot position that he seems better suited for. You can still bring Coleman along at X behind Hopkins, but also still get him on the field in other ways. Hopkins would be an excellent example for Coleman to learn from, in terms of how to win in the NFL as a bigger bodied guy without elite speed. That said, my top choice would still be "buy a time machine, go back and trade for Diontae Johnson or Jerry Jeudy, and/or go back to the draft, and take Franklin, Walker, Baker, or Washington in the middle rounds". Time machine preference not withstanding, the Bills still need help at WR. DHop should be the least expensive of the options. He was a FA a year ago. Giving Tenn a 3rd or 4th should cover it. But the problem with several of the veteran options is the top WR spot would need to be addressed again quickly. They would be more rentals at this point for maybe two years. Whereas with a Metcalf or Aiyuk you would not expect to have this hole again for at least 3 years out. And if you get a Metcalf/Aiyuk type you would not be pining for the flake Diontae Johnson or underperforming J Jeudy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, ganesh said: None of the above. I think the Bills are investing in Youth at the WR position with Kincaid, Coleman, Shakir, Samuel and Claypool. I doubt they are going after a veteran WR...may be they will look for one with speed..but other than that this WR group is set for the next 2 years. It may be set for this year but doubt that it’s set beyond that. The biggest hole on the roster right now is WR1. They have 3 top 60 picks next year. They almost certainly add another one in there. Edited May 13 by Kirby Jackson 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 I would love to have any of them on the roster, but don't think the Bears or Titans are interested in shipping off talent from their young QBs. Also, I don't think the Bills will be exploring any trades for WR before the season begins. If things start getting rocky, I can envision a move before the trade deadline however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritBill Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 48 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: McLaurin could be put in the Darkhorse category, salary $15M, age 29. While meeting the level of 2024 Diggs quality it is hard to see Washington giving away their top WR, leaving them with just Dotson and the new 4th rounder Luke. Would be a tough spot for their rookie QB. Cheers. It could also be a tough spot for McLaurin who's hurtling towards 30 and hasn't had a sniff of a championship yet. He's put up very good numbers with a precession of ne'er do wells at QB. There might come a time in the very near future where he starts to get angsty and wants a good go on a challenging team. Washington are miles off and might still be for 2/3 years. All depends on McLaurin's motivations of course. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 1 minute ago, Einstein's Dog said: DHop should be the least expensive of the options. He was a FA a year ago. Giving Tenn a 3rd or 4th should cover it. But the problem with several of the veteran options is the top WR spot would need to be addressed again quickly. They would be more rentals at this point for maybe two years. Whereas with a Metcalf or Aiyuk you would not expect to have this hole again for at least 3 years out. And if you get a Metcalf/Aiyuk type you would not be pining for the flake Diontae Johnson or underperforming J Jeudy. The issue with is that I think the Bills went young and cheap at WR on purpose. I'm not so sure they're eager to turn around and hand out the type of contract that an Aiyuk or Metcalf will command. Furthermore, I don't think the 49ers will actually move Aiyuk, or that the Seahawks will actually move Metcalf. I find it much more likely that those teams move Samuel and Lockett, respectively, and then re-sign the younger guys. A cheaper veteran stopgap like Lockett or Hopkins seem more likely for me as something the Bills would pursue. Ultimately, I don't think a bigger WR investment will come until NEXT offseason, at which time I can see them being more willing (and able) to pay up for a dynamic WR or two. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaldimandBills Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Don't see a big swing. I see a tyler lockett for a 4th style trade. Bills are gonna have to use their 1st and two 2nds on a Dend Corner, and another young X receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 I don't think we're "done" but i don't think we're making a big move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: The biggest hole on the roster right now is WR1. Yep. Adding a viable number one would make the whole WR corps look much better. Coleman looks more capable of being a quality WR2 than he does of being THE GUY. Shakir looks to be a viable slot WR and third option. Samuel would be an amazing WR4, move player, and depth at all three of the top spots. Mack Hollins WR5 and primarily special teams. The WR corps is actually set up quite well to be the supporting unit to a legitimate WR1 -- the Bills just don't appear to have one on the roster. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said: I said it in another thread - I don't want any of them right now. I'd wait till the trade deadline. See how our offense is doing, and if necessary, trade for someone then. Some teams with bad record might want to trade a player and it will be cheaper than now. Seahawks, Titans, Raiders, Bucs and Rams all seem like a good potential candidates for this (from one OP listed). Fair .. but we’re not likely to have an easy go of it early in the season, or at all this season. Brutal schedule. Im ok if they’re confident in this group and we head into the season as is, but they better be confident.. Im fine going young, but I’m not fine stumbling hard out the gate and potentially wasting a prime year of Josh Allen. We have money next year and a bunch of draft picks next year to add cheap talent. If a guy becomes available this year, we have levers available to get absorb their contract and then extend/rework their deal to provide cap space for this upcoming season. Im fine either way, but they better have given Josh Allen enough to compete this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 They will not trade for a receiver. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 (edited) 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: They will not trade for a receiver. I'm curious about Claypool. What if he's determined?...What can he offer? Edited May 13 by nosejob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahbonas Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 1 hour ago, Einstein's Dog said: A good number of our fans (including myself) are expecting a post June 1st trade for a WR. This WR should be of at least the quality of the expected 2024 Diggs. Listed below are who I feel are the top contenders: 1. DK Metcalf - rumored to be on the market, salary $13M, age 27. Big, fast, would be great addition. 2. B Aiyuk - previously rumored to be on the market and would make sense because SF has a lot of high priced WRs and drafted one in Round 1. Salary $14M, age 26. Downside is looking for big payday. 3. D Hopkins - Tenn has glut of WRs. Salary around $13M (maybe less based on how the $8M salary + $4M roster bonus is distributed). age 32. 4. D Adams - Raiders are going to stink and have no QB, Adams contract is such that this looks like his last year w $44M next year. Salary $17M, age 32. Dark Horse candidates 5. DJ Moore - former Carolina pick, salary $16M, age 27 6. C Kupp - salary $15M, age 31 7. C Godwin - salary $20M, age 28 The combination of draft capital and salary needed to be given for each listed WR makes is hard to figure out which way to go. Lets hope Beane makes one happen. Agreed = Id maybe add a Courtland Sutton type guy - 28yrs old...sign to3/4 year deal our offense is then set....next years draft can be all about defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted May 13 Author Share Posted May 13 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: They will not trade for a receiver. Of course they will. The Bills do not have a WR1 on the roster for 2024, or for that matter for 2025. The Bills have draft capital - extra 2nd and 4th, money coming in - Tre $10M, and kept the spot open - didn't draft 2 and didn't hit FA hard. All signs point to picking up a good WR. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 42 minutes ago, Bangarang said: We can't afford any of those guys. Not today but by midseason we can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 2 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: Of course they will. The Bills do not have a WR1 on the roster for 2024, or for that matter for 2025. The Bills have draft capital - extra 2nd and 4th, money coming in - Tre $10M, and kept the spot open - didn't draft 2 and didn't hit FA hard. All signs point to picking up a good WR. Except for Beane saying "there is no trade for a receiver forthcoming" and "We like our room. We're in good shape there". They drafted a wide receiver, signed five of them, then added two more in UDFA. To me, all signs point to them being done adding to the WR unit for 2024. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted May 13 Author Share Posted May 13 5 minutes ago, jahbonas said: Agreed = Id maybe add a Courtland Sutton type guy - 28yrs old...sign to3/4 year deal our offense is then set....next years draft can be all about defense I'd be disappointed with C Sutton as the addition. He doesn't meet the 2024 Diggs level expectation for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 I think I’d night the bullet and give up a 1 for Metalf. He’s a monster like Allen. They should have been playing together for years now anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 If you make the swing it is for Ayuik. Young productive player. With big play ability. He would cost a lot to trade for and pay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted May 13 Author Share Posted May 13 3 minutes ago, Logic said: Except for Beane saying "there is no trade for a receiver forthcoming" and "We like our room. We're in good shape there". They drafted a wide receiver, signed five of them, then added two more in UDFA. To me, all signs point to them being done adding to the WR unit for 2024. Be very careful with what Beane says because lets face it, it would be detrimental to say he is going to trade for a WR. When he says "no trade forthcoming" he can wiggle out of that. And saying he "likes our room, blah, blah, blah" is all GM speak. They drafted the replacement of G Davis. They added camp bodies. They have no WR on the roster with over 1,000 yard season. The entire outside football hemisphere can look at the Bills WR room and see it as the pathetic room that it is. It needs a top WR bad. Beane is not an idiot, odds are the WR is coming. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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