Gunsgoodtime Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 (edited) I blame the Gm and coach who is the only team in the NFL to not draft a WR in the first 3 rounds in 5 years. With Josh Allen as your qb Edited April 28 by Gunsgoodtime 1 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 (edited) 33 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Good post. Check out what Coleman says,even the rookie gets it. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/2024/04/bills-keon-coleman-had-interesting-josh-allen-comment-3-weeks-after-stefon-diggs-trade.html%3foutputType=amp Quote Coleman was asked what he’d say to people who question his speed after running a disappointing 4.61 40-yard dash at the combine. He said to ask defensive backs who he played in college about his speed. “I’ve never been caught- I don’t think I’ve ever been caught from behind,” he said. “I don’t think I’ve ever had the chance to not be able to run by somebody. More so than that, I don’t think there was ever just one DB that just sat when I was running at them. So that pretty much tells you all you need to know. Guys that are saying that about the speed aren’t the guys that are on the field. Your opinions, they’re opinions for a reason. It is what it is.” I found this to be a very interesting quote. Edited April 28 by Bad Things 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 100% of the blame is on Beane. Thinking it was a good idea to sign Von sabotaged last, this and next year. beane and McD need to go before they completely waste Joshs legacy. 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: Like all the other players who left buffalo to win. They're winners. You're a loser I’m a loser ? What im assuming you mean the Bills Edited April 28 by julian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 Just now, Bad Things said: I found this to be a very interesting quote. Yep, he gets it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 31 minutes ago, FireChans said: Beane could’ve drafted WR’s since 2018 and hasn’t. Then he wouldn’t have had to extend Diggs desperately in 2022. Something that gave Diggs tremendous leverage in 2022 and 2023. He did neglect the WR room for multiple seasons, and is still neglecting it and Josh is going to pay for it when his career ends at 31 like Cam Newton. 100%. It shocking that Coleman as a 2nd round selection is the HIGHEST drafted WR that Beane has ever selected. This is a major reason why the Bills are at the point they are at now. To his credit, Beane assembled an excellent WR room in 2021 with Diggs, Beasley, Sanders, Davis and Isaiah McKenzie. The problem was that 2/5 of that group were vets on the final seasons of their career. In 2022, when Beasley and Sanders fell off a cliff mid-year and moved on, Beane’s solution was to simply sign an aging Jameson Crowder and hope Isaiah McKenzie and Gabe Davis could take a step major forward. In 2023, Beane pounded the podium that Gabe was playing through injuries. His solution was to double down on Davis, and sign low-end FA’s like Harty and Sherfield. I’ve never been one to defend Diggs. Say what you will but the reason the Bills have a lower-end roster WR is less about Stefon and more about failure to dedicate enough resources to the position 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted April 28 Author Share Posted April 28 4 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said: I blame the Gm and coach who is the only team in the NFL to not draft a WR in the first 3 rounds in 5 years. With Josh Allen as your qb You have 2 starters there - they determined Davis (plus Sanders in 2021) - made it not necessary to draft one in the first 3 let alone 2 rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 16 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: Exactly, if you can't smooth things over with Diggs that's on you. Ignore him and benefit from his on field play and try to win a superbowl again. The reason Cincinatti gave for not trading Higgins was "We're trying to win a superbowl" The diggs position the bills were in is nothing like the Higgins situation. Night and day difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 1 minute ago, julian said: I’m a loser ? What im assuming you mean the Bills Yeah, sorry, I meant anyone who subscribes to the collective idea that any player who is unhappy because they're not winning is a "cancer". Not saying you said that but I've heard it a lot from Bills and Sabres fans over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 1 minute ago, Gunsgoodtime said: I blame the Gm and coach who is the only team in the NFL to not draft a WR in the first 3 rounds in 5 years I think the OP is correct that the current WR room with Diggs was a plausible plan. However, the urgency certainly is a product of relative neglect of the WR position at the top of the draft. I love Kincaid, and he could become a primary weapon, actually. Nonetheless, the Bills were able to be held hostage by Diggs' tantrums because they didn't have anyone else to turn to. There weren't any emerging young WRs who might grow into WR1. That player should already have been on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 Look the Bills knew what they were getting when they traded tor Diggs. Leopards don’t change their spots. Did they adequately prepare for his departure heck no they don’t value WR like other teams do. I can’t fault Brandon for trading him but it’s clear after his huge drop against the Chiefs the front office was thinking he’d have a quiet off season that of course wasn’t the case and it’s clear that had he stayed in Buffalo another year things would have combusted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 39 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: For the record, I’m not upset about the WR room. The vision Beane had for this offense in 2024 simplified: Diggs Coleman Shakir Samuel Then add all our draft picks except the Duke DT and you’d have our team. Pretty dang good. But this organization was thrown into mini turmoil bc of Stefon Diggs. Period. If your take is “Beane has neglected WR and this is what happens” you’re just wrong. Diggs was supposed to give us 2024 and 2025. He quit (as we know now) at the end of 2022 and throughout 2023. I refuse to trash Beane over the WR room that was supposed to include Stefon in the plan until he tapped out and quit. Quite frankly, I’m sick of the fan base rushing to defend Diggs over the GM that oversaw the construction of this perennial SB contenders roster. It’s embarrassing. I’ll be rooting for Coleman and Shakir harder than I’ve rooted for 2 Bills WRs. And if we need more ammo I trust Beane, whose cap is all screwed up this year bc of Stefon, will find more ammo. Go Bills! One helluva post! 👍🏻 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 1 minute ago, Rocbillsfan1 said: The diggs position the bills were in is nothing like the Higgins situation. Night and day difference. Well I don't know all the details but I suspect our head coach is a major player either directly by being the main reason they haven't won or indirectly by not being able to smooth it over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<bills4life> Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 11 minutes ago, Rocbillsfan1 said: I’m sorry what other way was there? Giving up a ton a draft picks for a rookie? Who says the teams that picked the top 3 WRs even wanted to trade down? You are the people making up these ridiculous unrealistic situations that aren’t based in reality. Here again that post was in regards to having both mcconkey and Mitchell. No one said anything about trading up in the top three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wags67 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 Name the #1 receiver on the Patriots Super Bowel teams. We are set up very similar now... 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 2 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Look the Bills knew what they were getting when they traded tor Diggs. Leopards don’t change their spots. Did they adequately prepare for his departure heck no they don’t value WR like other teams do. I can’t fault Brandon for trading him but it’s clear after his huge drop against the Chiefs the front office was thinking he’d have a quiet off season that of course wasn’t the case and it’s clear that had he stayed in Buffalo another year things would have combusted. What do you mean by combusted? Would he have sat out? Would they have a better chance to win the Superbowl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 Just now, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: Yeah, sorry, I meant anyone who subscribes to the collective idea that any player who is unhappy because they're not winning is a "cancer". Not saying you said that but I've heard it a lot from Bills and Sabres fans over the years. Ok , I was like whoa that took a turn lol.. I certainly don’t blame Diggs for wanting out if he believed this Coaching staff and or management wasn’t able to do what’s necessary to win. I just wish if that was the case he would say it, or have his brother say it and I’d actually respect it. The way he just slimed his way out of two teams now being cryptic using Twitter and being a distraction.. I have zero respect for it, garbage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 12 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: Why does it have to be a 4th round rookie? They let KC and a few other SB competitor teams have a choice first only to move up to the 3rd. Then decided to stay put and get a backup DT You are totally ignoring the fact that the Bills had the choice. They passed and they passed for a reason. Many other evaluators did not like worthy at all and I was also in that camp. I’m a little worried about Legette but Coleman was their guy and they went out and got him and also were able to get the DT they wanted. Maybe in a couple years we can judge but anyone judging now is talking out of their ass 13 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said: I blame the Gm and coach who is the only team in the NFL to not draft a WR in the first 3 rounds in 5 years. With Josh Allen as your qb Dude they traded a first round pick for Diggs. They had Stephon Diggs are you high? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins101 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 Doubt the plan would’ve involved both Coleman and Samuel if Diggs was still around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 1 minute ago, Rocbillsfan1 said: You are totally ignoring the fact that the Bills had the choice. They passed and they passed for a reason. Many other evaluators did not like worthy at all and I was also in that camp. I’m a little worried about Legette but Coleman was their guy and they went out and got him and also were able to get the DT they wanted. Maybe in a couple years we can judge but anyone judging now is talking out of their ass No, you're completely ignoring the fact that the Bills punted the choice. They didn't know who KC would take (but had to know it would probably be a WR) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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