Logic Posted April 27 Posted April 27 (edited) I'd like to start a new tradition here on Two Bills Drive. The premise is simple. I want everyone who's interested in testing their drafting acumen against Brandon Beane's to list who theywould have chosen at each spot, based on who was available in real life, compared to who the Bills actually chose. I'll list where the Bills picked, who they picked in real life, and then who I would have picked. And I'd like each person who wants to participate to do the same. You can copy and paste the Bills picks and then post your own chosen player next to it (using the link below and picking only players who were available at that pick), unless you'd rather stick with who the Bills picked. The only rule is that you have to pick where the Bills actually picked. You can't undo a trade-down they made, and you can't invent a new trade-down or trade-up. You have to stick with the real draft slots that the Bills picked from. We can check back on this in future years and compare our own preferences to who Beane picked. A chance for each of us to put our money where our mouth is. Here's the listing of everyone picked in the 2024 NFL draft and where, for easy reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_NFL_draft I'll start: Bills 2024 draft class: Pick 33: WR Keon Coleman, Florida State Pick 60: S Cole Bishop, Utah Pick 95: DT DeWayne Carter, Duke Pick 128: RB Ray Davis, Kentucky Pick 141: C/G Sedrick Van Pran-Granger, Georgia Pick 160: LB Edefuan Ulofoshio, Washington Pick 168: DE Javon Solomon, Troy Pick 204: T Tylan Grable, UCF Pick 219: CB Daequan Hardy, Penn State Pick 221: G Travis Clayton, International Player Pathway Who I would've picked instead: Pick 33: WR Ladd McConkey, Georgia Pick 60: S Cole Bishop, Utah (same as Bills) Pick 95: WR Troy Franklin, Oregon Pick 128: CB TJ Tampa, Iowa State Pick 141: C/G Sedrick Van Pran-Granger, Georgia (same as Bills) Pick 160: RB Tyron Tracy Jr, Purdue Pick 168: DE Javon Soloman, Troy (same as Bills) Pick 204: OG Christian Mahogany, Boston College Pick 219: WR Brendan Rice, USC Pick 221: CB MJ Devonshire, Pitt Edited April 27 by Logic 5 2 1 Quote
ghostwriter Posted April 27 Posted April 27 Nope, I’m not smarter than our GM. I hold Beane in high regards. He’s probably our best GM all time outside of Bill Polian. 9 1 1 11 1 1 2 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted April 27 Posted April 27 I'm literally shocked that this game will involved every pre publication scouting rankings on who are the highest ranked guys instead of believing more in the 32 GM's who decided not to take these guys until incredibly later. 3 2 Quote
oldmanfan Posted April 27 Posted April 27 I don’t have access to a tiny fraction of the data Beane does. I run IVF labs. It would be like having folks here tell me I’m wrong about what embryo to transfer when they haven’t even had high school biology. 4 2 1 Quote
Logic Posted April 27 Author Posted April 27 3 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: I don’t have access to a tiny fraction of the data Beane does. I run IVF labs. It would be like having folks here tell me I’m wrong about what embryo to transfer when they haven’t even had high school biology. Yeah I mean..it's a game. It's supposed to be for fun. I was not seriously suggesting that anyone here would be a better GM than Brandon Beane. It's more of a "how would your draft class of choice stack up against the pros" kind of thing. 3 Quote
JimBob2232 Posted April 28 Posted April 28 Pick 33: WR Adonai Mitchell Pick 60: S Cole Bishop Pick 95: WR Troy Franklin Pick 128: CB TJ Tampa, Iowa State Pick 141: C/G Sedrick Van Pran-Granger, Georgia (same as Bills) Pick 160: OT Christian Jones Pick 168: CB Quan'tez Stingers Pick 204: DE Cedrick Johnson Pick 219: CB MJ Devonshire Pick 221: WR Cornelius Johnson 1 1 Quote
section122 Posted April 28 Posted April 28 Isnt this a bit of an unfair exercise where we know who will still be available so we can play around with combinations? 4 3 Quote
DJB Posted April 28 Posted April 28 Will you be bumping this thread in 3 years so we know the results ? 2 1 Quote
NewEra Posted April 28 Posted April 28 4 minutes ago, DJB said: Will you be bumping this thread in 3 years so we know the results ? That’s what this thread is for. LAMP 1 1 Quote
Tim Tindale Posted April 28 Posted April 28 11 hours ago, oldmanfan said: I don’t have access to a tiny fraction of the data Beane does. I run IVF labs. It would be like having folks here tell me I’m wrong about what embryo to transfer when they haven’t even had high school biology. Irrational confidence >> training, data, and experience. Quote
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted April 28 Posted April 28 you should be able to undo a trade down, because that's some lame ass *****, especially letting KC go ahead. Might as well hold the door for them and bow 12 hours ago, Victory Formation said: Nope, I’m not smarter than our GM. I hold Beane in high regards. He’s probably our best GM all time outside of Bill Polian. pathetic, he went to business school have some confidence 1 Quote
Turbo44 Posted April 28 Posted April 28 Easy to make picks when you know who’s going to be available later in the draft. For instance: it’s easy to switch to Ladd at 33 when you know Franklin is going to be available in rd 4. 1 1 Quote
4merper4mer Posted April 28 Posted April 28 10 hours ago, section122 said: Isnt this a bit of an unfair exercise where we know who will still be available so we can play around with combinations? Think it is unfair now? Three years from now there will be 16,294 posts about som 5th rounder that turned out great. Quote
soflabillsfan1 Posted April 28 Posted April 28 12 hours ago, Logic said: Who I would've picked instead: Pick 33: WR Ladd McConkey, Georgia Pick 60: S Cole Bishop, Utah (same as Bills) Pick 95: WR Troy Franklin, Oregon Pick 128: CB TJ Tampa, Iowa State Pick 141: C/G Sedrick Van Pran-Granger, Georgia (same as Bills) Pick 160: RB Tyron Tracy Jr, Purdue Pick 168: DE Javon Soloman, Troy (same as Bills) Pick 204: OG Christian Mahogany, Boston College Pick 219: WR Brendan Rice, USC Pick 221: CB MJ Devonshire, Pitt Really like your draft. I'll give it a stab. Pick 33: WR Ladd McConkey, Georgia Pick 60: S Cole Bishop, Utah Pick 95: WR Troy Franklin, Oregon Pick 128: CB TJ Tampa, Iowa State Pick 141: C/G Sedrick Van Pran-Granger, Georgia Pick 160: EDGE Mohammed Kamara Pick 168: DT Mekhi Wingo Pick 204: LB Nathaniel Watson Pick 219 CB Daequan Hardy Pick 221: OG C.J. Hanson 1 Quote
<bills4life> Posted April 28 Posted April 28 23 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: you should be able to undo a trade down, because that's some lame ass *****, especially letting KC go ahead. Might as well hold the door for them and bow pathetic, he went to business school have some confidence If that’s the case he may need to go back, after some of these ridiculous signings the past few years. Quote
FireChans Posted April 28 Posted April 28 12 hours ago, Logic said: I'd like to start a new tradition here on Two Bills Drive. The premise is simple. I want everyone who's interested in testing their drafting acumen against Brandon Beane's to list who theywould have chosen at each spot, based on who was available in real life, compared to who the Bills actually chose. I'll list where the Bills picked, who they picked in real life, and then who I would have picked. And I'd like each person who wants to participate to do the same. You can copy and paste the Bills picks and then post your own chosen player next to it (using the link below and picking only players who were available at that pick), unless you'd rather stick with who the Bills picked. The only rule is that you have to pick where the Bills actually picked. You can't undo a trade-down they made, and you can't invent a new trade-down or trade-up. You have to stick with the real draft slots that the Bills picked from. We can check back on this in future years and compare our own preferences to who Beane picked. A chance for each of us to put our money where our mouth is. Here's the listing of everyone picked in the 2024 NFL draft and where, for easy reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_NFL_draft I'll start: Bills 2024 draft class: Pick 33: WR Keon Coleman, Florida State Pick 60: S Cole Bishop, Utah Pick 95: DT DeWayne Carter, Duke Pick 128: RB Ray Davis, Kentucky Pick 141: C/G Sedrick Van Pran-Granger, Georgia Pick 160: LB Edefuan Ulofoshio, Washington Pick 168: DE Javon Solomon, Troy Pick 204: T Tylan Grable, UCF Pick 219: CB Daequan Hardy, Penn State Pick 221: G Travis Clayton, International Player Pathway Who I would've picked instead: Pick 33: WR Ladd McConkey, Georgia Pick 60: S Cole Bishop, Utah (same as Bills) Pick 95: WR Troy Franklin, Oregon Pick 128: CB TJ Tampa, Iowa State Pick 141: C/G Sedrick Van Pran-Granger, Georgia (same as Bills) Pick 160: RB Tyron Tracy Jr, Purdue Pick 168: DE Javon Soloman, Troy (same as Bills) Pick 204: OG Christian Mahogany, Boston College Pick 219: WR Brendan Rice, USC Pick 221: CB MJ Devonshire, Pitt Can I go back in time and not trade away the pick for Legette? 1 Quote
boater Posted April 28 Posted April 28 People who watch YouTube highlight reels, read Mel Kiper, watch a college game on TV, read combine stats, have a fantasy team, etc. are smarter than... A GM supported by a College Scout Team who: dedicate their 24/7 to scouting, have met the player privately in person, maybe had a private tryout, went to college games in person, spoke with college coaches, actually fielded calls with other NFL GMs, etc. And has detailed inside knowledge of his team needs that no outside has. every time. 1 Quote
FireChans Posted April 28 Posted April 28 (edited) 3 minutes ago, boater said: People who watch YouTube highlight reels, read Mel Kiper, watch a college game on TV, read combine stats, have a fantasy team, etc. are smarter than... A GM supported by a College Scout Team who: dedicate their 24/7 to scouting, have met the player privately in person, maybe had a private tryout, went to college games in person, spoke with college coaches, actually fielded calls with other NFL GMs, etc. And has detailed inside knowledge of his team needs that no outside has. every time. exactly. That’s why Boogie Basham is gonna be an All-Pro, because there’s no way some folks on here could be right about him being a complete and total bum, while Beane thinks he’s worth a second rounder. Edited April 28 by FireChans 1 1 Quote
soflabillsfan1 Posted April 28 Posted April 28 20 minutes ago, FireChans said: exactly. That’s why Boogie Basham is gonna be an All-Pro, because there’s no way some folks on here could be right about him being a complete and total bum, while Beane thinks he’s worth a second rounder. We double dipped on DE in a weak draft but didn't grab two WR's in a loaded draft. Pretty head scratching. 3 2 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 28 Posted April 28 24 minutes ago, FireChans said: exactly. That’s why Boogie Basham is gonna be an All-Pro, because there’s no way some folks on here could be right about him being a complete and total bum, while Beane thinks he’s worth a second rounder. Wasn't Boogie drafted off the COVID off season? You know, the one that GMs couldn't go to Pro Days, do as much deep digging as usual? Couldn't get in person with the draftees? You know, the season that NFL GMs were pretty much relegated to having only slightly more information available to them than fans normally do? And they missed on that pick? Shocker. 2 Quote
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