Coleman = Benjamin, Davis = Moss - Beane players

[mrags]

Just now, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said:

That’s not a losing formula though, it’s having trouble finishing the job.

13 seconds was coaching gaffes

Last year was snake bit by injuries and inexcusably putting AJ Klein on the field in the biggest game of Josh’s career.

In NONE of these losses has a lack of speed on the field been a factor though, that’s just bull####.

 

Well. If we were faster in the field maybe we would have had a lead big enough that even this terrible coach couldn’t F it up. 
 

in case you haven’t noticed, the league is getting faster. Our division rivals are getting faster. Hell, even the Pats who are run by a defensive coach picked offensive players until rd6. 
 

McDermott wants a run the ball and play good defense type of team. And that’s fine. If we had a JAG at QB. But we don’t. We have one of the most talented QBs to ever play the game. Get him some sports cars to throw to 

[Dr.Mantis_Toboggan]

Just now, mrags said:

Well. If we were faster in the field maybe we would have had a lead big enough that even this terrible coach couldn’t F it up. 
 

in case you haven’t noticed, the league is getting faster. Our division rivals are getting faster. Hell, even the Pats who are run by a defensive coach picked offensive players until rd6. 
 

McDermott wants a run the ball and play good defense type of team. And that’s fine. If we had a JAG at QB. But we don’t. We have one of the most talented QBs to ever play the game. Get him some sports cars to throw to 

Miami is the fastest team in the league. Who’s their Daddy? You worry too much.

[mrags]

Just now, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said:

Miami is the fastest team in the league. Who’s their Daddy? You worry too much.

Who’s their QB?

[nedboy7]

11 minutes ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said:

The Bills have made the post season 5 consecutive seasons.

They have won the division in now 4 consecutive years.

In that same time frame their regular season record is 58-24

 

Im not sure you have a full grasp on what a “losing recipe” is there, friend.

 

 

 

It's called bat ***** crazy. 

[Dr.Mantis_Toboggan]

Just now, mrags said:

Who’s their QB?

A guy clearly good enough to get his weapons the ball in open space?

You keep moving the goal posts. Drafting track stars is overrated…

[oldmanfan]

14 minutes ago, harmonkillebrew said:

Didn't Beane also draft Devin Funchess?  

There has long been an assumption that big bodied outside WRs can outmuscle and make contested catches, but that has been debunked. It's separation that produces results, either from speed, quickness, or good footwork/routes. Teams have been going more and more for smaller WRs with great separation skills. Look at who Andy Reid added this offseason - Worthy and Hollywood Brown. People are pretty high on Coleman as a contested catch specialist with great hands, but can he separate consistently? We know Gabe couldn't. 

 

I don't know why Beane traded Moss for a guy they never used. He was still on his rookie K. I guess he wants a do-over. 

 

I'm not dogging any of these guys as players. I don't know enough about them as a fan. I'm just pointing out what seems to be a trend from Beane that seems old school, out of touch with the league, and counter to what the say themselves.  They seem to like/want a plodding, ball-control offense.

I’m tired of reading about 40 yard dash stuff.  Jerry Rice would have dropped based on that.  Coleman is fluid from what I’m reading and can win contested catches.  Let the kid play.

Edited April 27 by oldmanfan

[LABILLBACKER]

43 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

I do.

 

It's about ceilings and floors. After taking the ultimate low-floor, high-ceiling QB in Josh Allen, just about every other player the Bills have drafted under beane are high-floor, low-ceiling guys. Low risk. "Speed" players often carry an element of risk that mudders don't.

 

It's smart if you want to improve your job longevity, but not smart if you want to try and win a championship.

 

OFC Beane could prove me wrong with some kind of blockbuster trade after the draft, but I ain't holding my breath.

 

With Kim's situation and this bizarre draft, I just think the organizational focus this year is some kind of reset or rebuild going into the new stadium.  This draft and our depleted wr room cannot be expected to keep up with KC.  Instead of 2 of the top 15 wrs, I guess the plan was to settle for Coleman. After the top 3, there were like 9 wrs I would take over the gauntlet king.  

[LeGOATski]

1 hour ago, harmonkillebrew said:

Beane has a real tendency for a certain type of player.

Ray Davis is a  Zack Moss clone

Coleman isn't too far off from Kelvin Benjamin and Devin Funchess.

 

None of those guys panned out.

 

Seems Beane consistently under values speed in skill players.  I was hoping we'd come out of this draft faster and more explosive on O, but instead it's more of the usual.

 

Coleman would have been a decent replacement for Gabe. Similar skill set. Is Samuel supposed to be the Diggs replacement? Hard to see us being better on offense. 

 

Or defense for that matter. They don't seem to have a vision or plan for getting better than the Chiefs. Feels like a reset year.

Coleman is actually Beane's Robbie Anderson (a.k.a. Robbie Chosen), tall and athletic.

[Turk71]

2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

I’m tired of reading about 40 yard dash stuff.  Jerry Rice would have dropped based on that.  Coleman is fluid from what I’m reading and can win contested catches.  Let the kid play.

Coleman was 11th among draft wrs in contested catch % at 45%.

 Not sure why everyone keeps claiming he's great at contested catches.

[mrags]

2 minutes ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said:

A guy clearly good enough to get his weapons the ball in open space?

You keep moving the goal posts. Drafting track stars is overrated…

Drafting track stars that can actually play football are not tho. Like Hill. Waddle. Achane. 
 

im not moving the posts. I’m simply behind getting our superstar QB some weapons. Ones that get separation. Ones that find open spaces. Ones that blow the doors off defenses. Ones that keep defensive coordinators up at night. You know, like how Hill did with Buffalo for years as a chief. The only reason he doesn’t destroy us as a dolphin is because his QB doesn’t have the arm to utilize him. And his HC is possibly as dumb as McDermott. 

[HappyDays]

Coleman is much more athletic than Benjamin. Benjamin just had length, but once he caught the ball the play was over. We need to stop with the lazy comparisons. Let Coleman become his own player.

 

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/kelvin-benjamin

 

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/keon-coleman

 

Pretty much nothing alike. The only comparison is their 40 times.

[SoonerBillsFan]

I see a change in offensive philosophy coming this year.

[K D]

19 minutes ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said:

The Bills have made the post season 5 consecutive seasons.

They have won the division in now 4 consecutive years.

In that same time frame their regular season record is 58-24

 

Im not sure you have a full grasp on what a “losing recipe” is there, friend.

 

This right here is the losing recipe. You think that's something to be proud of. Hang the banner

[NoSaint]

13 minutes ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said:

Miami is the fastest team in the league. Who’s their Daddy? You worry too much.

Imagine if you dropped Josh on that roster 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, Nextmanup said:

Next year, Bills fans are going to realize, really quickly, that we have no replacement on this roster for Stephon Diggs.

 

Unless Beane still has a trade trick up his sleeve...which he might.

 

But we are worse at the WR position right now.

 

 

Stefon Diggs wasn’t even a replacement for Stefon Diggs down the stretch last year lol. Dude was providing the effort and play making ability of a pretty good wr2 and we were likely a lb injury clusterf**** away from going to the afc championship despite that 

 

16 minutes ago, mrags said:

Who’s their QB?

A guy about to earn a big extension lol

Edited April 27 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Don Otreply]

Lots of whinny guys on this board, it’s like I’m reading fourteen year old girls whimpering about acne, any chance you whiners could stfu for a month or two, thanks in advance from the majority of Bills fans, 🤣🍸🚬

[mrags]

4 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Stefon Diggs wasn’t even a replacement for Stefon Diggs down the stretch last year lol. Dude was providing the effort and play making ability of a pretty good wr2 and we were likely a lb injury clusterf**** away from going to the afc championship despite that 

 

A guy about to earn a big extension lol

That doesn’t mean he’s that great. It just means he had a decent year and he’s up for contract. 
 

put Allen in that team and they break every passing record in the league 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Just now, mrags said:

That doesn’t mean he’s that great. It just means he had a decent year and he’s up for contract. 
 

put Allen in that team and they break every passing record in the league 

Oh yea I agree that was just more a joke about how most think tua is not much better than average and he’s about to get a big payday anyway 

[mrags]

Just now, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Oh yea I agree that was just more a joke about how most think tua is not much better than average and he’s about to get a big payday anyway 

Sarcasm really need a font here 

[Heitz]

1 hour ago, Green Lightning said:

Legit post if you're a glass half-full guy.  But Moss had a good year last year and while I'm not on fire over the Coleman pick, reaction from Chris Simms and others has me far more comfortable. 

 

Yeah, but I think you're discounting the reactions from a bunch of message board people that have never played in the NFL who are the real experts here... 🤔 🤣