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[Sweats]

Ive watched Coleman at Michigan and FSU.....

 

The kid has immeasurable tangibles that fit right in with our roster.......he's big, athletic, his hands are ball magnets, he's physical and can be a mismatch nightmare anywhere on the field.

Don't let the combine fool you.......yes, his 40 time was slow, however, he had the best time in the gauntlet and the pass-arounds from all other WR's there. Think about that, you pancake eating mother-****ers.

 

I like the pick.

I can see what our coaching staff is trying to put together here. I didn't see it recently, but i'm seeing the roster they are trying to build and the philosophy behind it.

 

Regardless of what our armchair GM's on these boards think, it was a good pick.

 

I have spoken.

[balln]

2 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Armchair GMs are the worst.  People act like they know more than Beane and his staff.  It’s laughable 

For sure. But there is some legitimacy to a few # here . Basham over creed 

 

Cody for Dover dk 

 

Elam 

1 minute ago, Sweats said:

Ive watched Coleman at Michigan and FSU.....

 

The kid has immeasurable tangibles that fit right in with our roster.......he's big, athletic, his hands are ball magnets, he's physical and can be a mismatch nightmare anywhere on the field.

Don't let the combine fool you.......yes, his 40 time was slow, however, he had the best time in the gauntlet and the pass-arounds from all other WR's there. Think about that, you pancake eating mother-****ers.

 

I like the pick.

I can see what our coaching staff is trying to put together here. I didn't see it recently, but i'm seeing the roster they are trying to build and the philosophy behind it.

 

Regardless of what our armchair GM's on these boards think, it was a good pick.

 

I have spoken.

Like what is their philosophy? Ground and pound and dominate the short and intermediate passing game? Have the biggest guys on offense ?

[Dunkirk Donski]

Further admitting my arrogance and ignorance, I love the 3 guys we’ve drafted so far, especially Carter.  Props to Beane and Co.

[tomur67]

I feel blessed that we are getting all this expert, inside  knowledge about how Beane is making bad decisions on who to select in this draft. We have people on this board that absolutely know which players will be successful and which ones won't.  A true gift for sure.

[Sweats]

1 minute ago, balln said:

For sure. But there is some legitimacy to a few # here . Basham over creed 

 

Cody for Dover dk 

 

Elam 

Like what is their philosophy? Ground and pound and dominate the short and intermediate passing game? Have the biggest guys on offense ?

 

 

 

Yes sir.

They are trying to own the middle of the field......create mismatch nightmares and rely on YAC......more like death by a thousand cuts.

[Buddy Hix]

I am no expert. But drafting a guy that slow who can’t separate or win versus press is crazy to me. 

[CaptnCoke11]

Just now, Buddy Hix said:

I am no expert. But drafting a guy that slow who can’t separate or win versus press is crazy to me. 

This place is insufferable during the draft with clowns like you and these hot takes 

[dgrochester55]

21 minutes ago, balln said:

Yep. 
 

I’ll tell you ONE thing. Mcbeane BETTER be right. They directly passed and traded on worthy and leggette. So I don’t care about “fit” and “scheme” and all that BS. So Coleman BETTER be better than those two guys.

 

What’s concerning: Josh Allen seemed to pick Coleman ? Uhhhhh - i don’t want my qb involved tbh 

 

once again I’m sick of the premium mcbeane places on “captain” and “character.” We ARE not winning in the playoffs . We NEED impact players. 
 

still don’t have impact players. This is a gross draft so far . Def rebuild. 

 

 

 

Do you have definitive proof that Worthy and Leggette are better or did you just personally like their highlight reel more?  I would have personally preferred McConkey or Leggette, but Buffalo addressed their two positions of need last night. Whether or not the right players were picked remains to be seen, but I can assume that Allen, Beane and McDermott know more about who fits their system than you or me do.

 

I'm willing to let the season play out before reserving judgment on the draft.

[balln]

2 minutes ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

Yes sir.

They are trying to own the middle of the field......create mismatch nightmares and rely on YAC......more like death by a thousand cuts.

But our qb doesn’t play that game. Won’t play that game. Even if you get Josh Allen on his best behavior … all

game kc playoffs. He still passed up diggs for a harder longer pass to Shakir. Had 2 mins left. Needed that diggs first down underneath catch -and another first down to get td. 
 

so I just don’t think Allen will

suddenly change 

[NewEra]

26 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I have no idea if this guy is going to be a good WR. I have seen very little of him. I just feel like we didn’t do anywhere near enough at WR. I don’t want to even attempt to fix this today. These rounds are not where you find suitable replacements. Can you get lucky? Yes. Nothing in this league is a give. And I’m not interested in just writing years off. We lost the best/2nd best WR in teen history and Davis and replaced them with basically nothing. It’s not enough. I fully  expect led us to move way up and get one of the true studs here or trade for an Ayuk/Samuel. This isn’t good enough enough now and I fear it’s too late to make a move that will change that.

Anywhere near enough?  As in what- we still have 7 picks…..we’ll draft another.  Maybe even 2

 

Coleman, Samuel, Shakir, Hollins-  

Kincaid- knox

 

we’ll be running lots of 12 personnel.and a good amount of 11.   We’ll run some 10, but probably not too much….especially in the playoffs when the weather 💩 

Sure, I’ll be ecstatic if we can land one or two of Franklin, Baker, Walker, Washington, rice, Wilson, thrash, cowing, Johnson, smith, Coker and a few others.  Considering the depth of this WR class, I think Beane did good by waiting until day 3 to draft a 2nd WR.  That said….if he doesn’t add another, I’ll be disappointed and chalk it up as a missed opportunity 

 

[No_Matter_What]

25 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Who knows?

 

All the teams did the same thing to Amon-Ra St Brown when he was drafted in the 4th round and now he is the highest paid WR in NFL history 

Agreed. That's why we just have to draft another one today. Just keep throwing darts until you hit the bullseye.

[balln]

1 minute ago, dgrochester55 said:

 

Do you have definitive proof that Worthy and Leggette are better or did you just personally like their highlight reel more?  I would have personally preferred McConkey or Leggette, but Buffalo addressed their two positions of need last night. Whether or not the right players were picked remains to be seen, but I can assume that Allen, Beane and McDermott know more about who fits their system than you or me do.

 

I'm willing to let the season play out before reserving judgment on the draft.

No I have no preference. ( I just didn’t want Coleman) . It’s purely a post hoc analysis that should be interesting over time to revisit. 

[ScorpionZero]

47 minutes ago, Dunkirk Donski said:

For all the whining and bellyaching about Coleman being our first pick (I was disappointed myself) it’s time to man up and admit that none of us are draft experts…some draft analysts had Franklin going late 1st, and many of us would’ve been happy taking him at 33.  For those in here who had Franklin going 4th round, where have we erred, and why were we so wrong?  

Because we don't have the same film, we don't get to talk to his coaches or teammates and we can't talk to him face to face. For all we know he could have been a nightmare interview from hell.

[Kirby Jackson]

13 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Armchair GMs are the worst.  People act like they know more than Beane and his staff.  It’s laughable 

I don’t think that anyone thinks that they know more than Beane & co. For one, they have access to much more information (specifically medicals). At the same time, there are people here that know substantially more than (insert random non-draft analyst). @GunnerBill has evaluated and charted like 150 players in this draft. He’s forgotten more about this class than Booger McFarland / Dan Orlovsky / Ryan Clark etc… will ever know. Gunner’s analysis is more in line with guys like McShay/Kiper/Brooks/Jeremiah/Miller/Reid. 
 

I agree, people watching a couple of highlight tapes or listening to non-experts is annoying.

[GASabresIUFan]

Beane has been very forthright about the Bills draft this year.  He said there were only 25 or so players with first rd grades and when one wasn’t there at 28 he traded down.  He said he was going to add DT help and did.  
 

Safety was also an obvious need with only 3 on the roster and both projected starters were backups last season.  Beane filled this obvious need with a very talented player who he probably had inside scoop on because of his Utes teammate Kincaid. 
 

However Beane also said, if my memory serves, that the Bills passing game needed more explosive plays and someone who could stretch the field.  Instead he drafts a player who ran 4.61 at the combine.  This is where the disappointment comes in.  Beane set the expectations and then to all appearances didn’t deliver.
 

I’m not a fan of the Coleman pick.  However, I do trust Beane and there is reason to hope. First, Beane said we need to be better at contested catches and Coleman does that well.  We also need bigger targets who make plays in the red zone and Coleman does that as well.  @Big Turk also pointed out Coleman 20 mph in game speed.  This is Nacua type in game speed and we know how that turned out. 
 

 

[Jay_Fixit]

56 minutes ago, Dunkirk Donski said:

For all the whining and bellyaching about Coleman being our first pick (I was disappointed myself) it’s time to man up and admit that none of us are draft experts…some draft analysts had Franklin going late 1st, and many of us would’ve been happy taking him at 33.  For those in here who had Franklin going 4th round, where have we erred, and why were we so wrong?  

I thought this was an absolute.

 

Not one person who posts in here or has ever posts in here knows a damn thing.

 

Not one.

[4BillsintheBurgh]

13 minutes ago, balln said:

But our qb doesn’t play that game. Won’t play that game. Even if you get Josh Allen on his best behavior … all

game kc playoffs. He still passed up diggs for a harder longer pass to Shakir. Had 2 mins left. Needed that diggs first down underneath catch -and another first down to get td. 
 

so I just don’t think Allen will

suddenly change 

I'm hoping Keon can give Josh a decent outlet. I thought last year Josh needed someone on the outside to throw the ball up to. Josh doesnt seem to take the dump offs because he doesnt mind running for it. So I think this helps Josh too, with Keons speed being an indirect factor since he'll never be screaming down the field. To me that also means we probably will be drafting a speed/kickoff return guy later today.

Edited April 27 by 4BillsintheBurgh

[McMuffin]

14 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said:

I am no expert. But drafting a guy that slow who can’t separate or win versus press is crazy to me. 

I remember Bean said that beating press was a strength for Coleman and that was one of the reasons they drafted him.

[Dunkirk Donski]

2 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said:

I thought this was an absolute.

 

Not one person who posts in here or has ever posts in here knows a damn thing.

 

Not one.

Take your happy pills Jay

[NewEra]

13 minutes ago, balln said:

For sure. But there is some legitimacy to a few # here . Basham over creed 

 

Cody for Dover dk 

 

Elam 

Like what is their philosophy? Ground and pound and dominate the short and intermediate passing game? Have the biggest guys on offense ?

Do you think Coleman is strictly an option the short and intermediate game?  
 

He may lack the explosion at the top of his routes to get open over the top but if he’s one on one he’s already somewhat open with the proper pass.  
 

He replaced our run blocking X WR with another run blocking X.  But this one can actually make contested catches and even be a threat after the catch.  
 

The run game will be a big part of our offense and he can be an asset there.  The weather will also play a role in our offense.  Physicality is extremely important.  Coleman is a physical component in both our run and pass game.  Samuel has speed.  Shakir has speed.  Cook has speed.  Kincaid has speed.  Bringing in some muscle helps.  Not to mention that the draft isn’t over and  there are still more speed option available.  
 

Replacing what Gabe did well is complete.  We replaced him with a superior player (imo anyway) that can do everything he did as well as thing he couldn’t do (contested catches and rac)
 

 

11 minutes ago, ScorpionZero said:

Because we don't have the same film, we don't get to talk to his coaches or teammates and we can't talk to him face to face. For all we know he could have been a nightmare interview from hell.

And his lack of balance.  Dude looks so dam weak!