Buffalo716 Posted April 27 Posted April 27 (edited) 2 hours ago, Virgil said: This would make sense. Maybe falling so far will humble him a bit. I don’t know how you can’t love football when you play through college. If he’s there when we pick, I’d still take a flyer on him You don't understand how you can't love football playing through college? As someone who played division 1 football... I can tell you easily It is the only way out for so many people.. so many people only have football or basketball as an outlet... Keeping them off the streets... It's the way out for a lot of people... It's not a passion it's a job or a burden since the time they were 13... They don't play football because they love it They play football because they're 6'3 215 lb receivers .. can run a 4.5 with a 40 inch vertical It's not about the passion.. it's about what football can do for them Which is perfectly reasonable... Your talents should help you out in life... But when you thought of football as a job since you were 12 You lose the passion for football... Division 1 football is basically professional football... It's AAA to the MLB And it's a grind like AAA baseball... It will also take the Love of the game out of a lot of people It's not easy to wake up at 6:00 every morning.. to go to positional meetings.. then go to class at 8am... Then go to the weight room at 12:00... Then have a team meeting at 2... And practice at 3:30 Every single day... Some do it for what the game of football can do for them.. and some do It for the Love of football 20 minutes with a kid with some smart questions and you can figure out what kind of guy they are Edited April 27 by Buffalo716 6 2 1 4 Quote
BobbyC81 Posted April 27 Posted April 27 5 hours ago, mrags said: Give me one of the following guys and I’ll feel a lot better franklin rice baker Walker burton is McMillan gone? I say draft Rice and hire Jerry as an assistant wide receivers coach. Run them hills! 1 2 Quote
CSBill Posted April 27 Posted April 27 5 hours ago, Big Blitz said: And maybe this. Well, clearly, the Bills do not want anyone named "XAVIER" on their roster; it is just too hard to properly pronounce. 1 Quote
machine gun kelly Posted April 27 Posted April 27 When I hear his name, I thought of this… Ole ole, ole. Cheers witch. 4 Quote
gjv Posted April 27 Posted April 27 9 hours ago, Charles Romes said: Rather have the new Harold Carmichael I would say we have the new Mike Evans. Quote
Buffalo03 Posted April 27 Posted April 27 6 hours ago, Big Blitz said: And maybe this. There are guys oh that list that went in the first round and 2nd round. Obviously the scouts didn't care about that Quote
glazeduck Posted April 27 Posted April 27 Man… I watched every game of this kid’s career. He played hurt, he played sick, never said a word when he was sitting and learning behind vastly inferior players, never took a play off, was a leader in the locker room. I know you can’t know what’s in a guys heart but I have a VERY hard time believing that he’s dropping due to heart. Size and injury feels exceedingly more likely. 2 1 Quote
K D Posted April 27 Posted April 27 Just now, glazeduck said: Man… I watched every game of this kid’s career. He played hurt, he played sick, never said a word when he was sitting and learning behind vastly inferior players, never took a play off, was a leader in the locker room. I know you can’t know what’s in a guys heart but I have a VERY hard time believing that he’s dropping due to heart. Size and injury feels exceedingly more likely. Thanks for the insight. At the end of the day we should be fielding a team of the best football players. I feel like they are putting too much thought into this. Find good football players and put them on the field. 1 Quote
glazeduck Posted April 27 Posted April 27 5 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Thanks for the insight. At the end of the day we should be fielding a team of the best football players. I feel like they are putting too much thought into this. Find good football players and put them on the field. Not to mention the draft process is grueling. I’m a Duck honk so would be super cool to get him but I’m also a Bills fan and the player I saw is a damn good one. 1 Quote
Beck Water Posted April 27 Posted April 27 (edited) 19 minutes ago, glazeduck said: Man… I watched every game of this kid’s career. He played hurt, he played sick, never said a word when he was sitting and learning behind vastly inferior players, never took a play off, was a leader in the locker room. I know you can’t know what’s in a guys heart but I have a VERY hard time believing that he’s dropping due to heart. Size and injury feels exceedingly more likely. What is the injury? As for size, didn't stop Worthy from going in the first Edit: found this, but it doesn't help too much https://www.draftsharks.com/fantasy/injury-history/troy-franklin/34981 Edited April 27 by Beck Water Quote
glazeduck Posted April 27 Posted April 27 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: What is the injury? As for size, didn't stop Worthy from going in the first He battled wrist, ankle and core injuries at various points. As for size vs. Worthy, think it’s both a relative thing — he’s alight at 6’1 whereas worthy is just all-around a smaller guy, as well as cumulative — bad combine/lost weight, etc. No clue what the deal is but at this point he’s too talented for the lack of risk… 7 hours ago, Buffalo03 said: Dude only has 17k followers. Without looking deeper into who the hell he is and if he’s legit, hard to believe he’s that well embedded, if at all. Quote
NoSaint Posted April 27 Posted April 27 (edited) 6 hours ago, WMDman said: I don’t think Franklin is a “dirt bag” I think they’re worried about him not living football so if he gets that big second contract he checks out, almost like Dareus If that’s it he’s still tremendous value this deep you aren’t taking pick 90 off your board because he will check out after a tremendous first 3-4 years that earn a major pay day it’s a deep draft at WR. He’s got a slight frame and showed some concerns at the combine. that’s a horrific combo for an early pick, yet alone in a stacked class where AD Mitchell talent is going late in the second The mock drafters missed on that and overrated him so now it feels like he stands out when in reality he probably needed to be at the back of that second tier of guys that ran through to WR 12 or 15 or wherever it was the next ledge was. either way a guy or two in that tier was going to go later then expected just with it being so deep and the mocks not having a lot of consensus on the order. From 5 to about 15 we saw darn near every ordering so WR 15 probably saw his name sneak into the first a few times unfairly raising expectations Edited April 27 by NoSaint 1 Quote
Buffalo03 Posted April 27 Posted April 27 7 minutes ago, glazeduck said: He battled wrist, ankle and core injuries at various points. As for size vs. Worthy, think it’s both a relative thing — he’s alight at 6’1 whereas worthy is just all-around a smaller guy, as well as cumulative — bad combine/lost weight, etc. No clue what the deal is but at this point he’s too talented for the lack of risk… Dude only has 17k followers. Without looking deeper into who the hell he is and if he’s legit, hard to believe he’s that well embedded, if at all. It says he's an NFL insider so I don't know Quote
NeverOutNick Posted April 27 Posted April 27 7 hours ago, Buffalo03 said: That’s sad to hear but he’s still worth the risk. If we trade up and get him or Walker I’ll forgive the McD influenced picks of yesterday lol Quote
Beck Water Posted April 27 Posted April 27 33 minutes ago, glazeduck said: He battled wrist, ankle and core injuries at various points. As for size vs. Worthy, think it’s both a relative thing — he’s alight at 6’1 whereas worthy is just all-around a smaller guy, as well as cumulative — bad combine/lost weight, etc. No clue what the deal is but at this point he’s too talented for the lack of risk… Dude only has 17k followers. Without looking deeper into who the hell he is and if he’s legit, hard to believe he’s that well embedded, if at all. Looked at his twitter profile and at the link he provided in that. I would say he's a "wannabe" insider, not someone who is genuinely plugged in. https://johnfrascellasports.blogspot.com/2022/10/archive-of-john-frascellas-sports.html?m=1 Still, there are guys everywhere who hear something or know something. Quote
jjmac Posted April 27 Posted April 27 Ok, I have a question to ask. Why are you guys so high on Franklin? What do you know that 32 NFL general managers do not? Three rounds in the books, and he is still on the board. 1 1 Quote
SCBills Posted April 27 Posted April 27 2 minutes ago, jjmac said: Ok, I have a question to ask. Why are you guys so high on Franklin? What do you know that 32 NFL general managers do not? Three rounds in the books, and he is still on the board. Game tape. The guy can play and provides something we still need, which is speed on the outside. Obviously there’s a reason he’s falling, but some of it could also be how deep this WR draft is. Even a team like the Bills, who came into this draft as WR needy as a team can be, has taken one WR. Not every team is going to take a WR in the Draft and now guys like him are relying on teams to start double dipping. Quote
Low Positive Posted April 27 Posted April 27 6 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: You don't understand how you can't love football playing through college? As someone who played division 1 football... I can tell you easily It is the only way out for so many people.. so many people only have football or basketball as an outlet... Keeping them off the streets... It's the way out for a lot of people... It's not a passion it's a job or a burden since the time they were 13... They don't play football because they love it They play football because they're 6'3 215 lb receivers .. can run a 4.5 with a 40 inch vertical It's not about the passion.. it's about what football can do for them Which is perfectly reasonable... Your talents should help you out in life... But when you thought of football as a job since you were 12 You lose the passion for football... Division 1 football is basically professional football... It's AAA to the MLB And it's a grind like AAA baseball... It will also take the Love of the game out of a lot of people It's not easy to wake up at 6:00 every morning.. to go to positional meetings.. then go to class at 8am... Then go to the weight room at 12:00... Then have a team meeting at 2... And practice at 3:30 Every single day... Some do it for what the game of football can do for them.. and some do It for the Love of football 20 minutes with a kid with some smart questions and you can figure out what kind of guy they are If there was a TBD hall of fame, this post would be a first-ballot inductee. 1 1 Quote
TheBeaneBandit Posted April 27 Posted April 27 So the word is nobody showed up to this guy's birthday party? 1 Quote
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