Deep dive on 2024 WR class - Beane’s analysis is in line with this

[Nephilim17]

Wouldn't it be amazing if... we get Franklin and he turns out to be one of the best WRs in the class? After the combine crap-show, after all the drama and the trading down?

Added bonus: Worthy becomes a track-star JAG in the NFL.

Not saying either will happen but wouldn't it be sweet? And Beane is totally vindicated. 

[Solomon Grundy]

15 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

Josh Allen likes Coleman too.....duck and runs😂😆🤣.

He's open when he's not open!! 

[MJS]

24 minutes ago, Logic said:

I understand there's more to a prospect's profile than college production, and I understand that McConkey was in a crowded receiver room, but...

Taking a look at the numbers McConkey posted at Georgia certainly doesn't inspire much confidence that he can be an NFL WR1. 

Maybe some big McConkey fan here can explain to me what's so special about him.

Production is one factor. Ideally you look at their traits and skills, though. McConkey seems like a good, do everything receiver who can line up inside or outside. He is fast (4.39 40). Great RAS score of 9.40 out of 10 (I think this includes his pro day agility tests since he didn't do that at the combine?). He is smart and a good route runner. Good hands.

 

I think his lack of production was do to some injuries, and he isn't big or strong, so that's a knock on him.

[KOKBILLS]

36 minutes ago, Rad Likes The Bills said:

ITS GOING TO BE FRANKLIN🦆

 

I've been saying it for a while now... There is no player in this Draft they scouted more thoroughly than Franklin... He's a 94-95 percentile "PFF Model" WR (since 2019 41% of 90 percentile WR's become "solid" players according to Pallazzolo...In comparison all other WR's below 90 percentile become solid players 9% of the time combined)... The Model is not a be-all-end-all... But it's a nice addition to Franklin's overall analysis...

 

He's a deep threat who ran a 4.41, but was really fast in the final 30 yards. Franklin had the slowest 10 yard split (1.61), but had a blazing 2.80 in the final 30... In comparison Worthy had a 2.72 final 30, BTJ 2.83, Adonai 2.82, Legette 2.85, McConkey 2.87, Pearsall 2.84... Franklin is more of a complete WR than some give him credit for, he's great at picking angles for YAC, and he's a legit deep threat. Think of it this way. Josh can heave it 65-70 yards fairly easily and after the 1st 10 yards Franklin will be one of the fastest WR's in the NFL... I think it's a fit. 

 

 

[HomeskillitMoorman]

Isn't Franklin the dude who looked like he was drunk at the Combine?

[Logic]

 

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:

Also interesting to note that the Bills possess two players who are tied at 13th for the fastest 40 times ever! 

 

I had not realized this.

[Low Positive]

40 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

Isn't Franklin the dude who looked like he was drunk at the Combine?

He was sick, or so he (and his agent) says.

[MiracleAtRich1393]

 

1 hour ago, 2003Contenders said:

I agree -- the only caveat I have is that if there is as great of demand for other teams to move up to #33 as Beane claims, he would be hard-pressed to avoid trading down if an offer comes in that is too good to refuse.

Great public negotiating, get a team like Arizona to overpay to only move down 2 slots. If we have 2 or more similarly graded receivers still on the board, hit that bid all day

Edited April 26 by MiracleAtRich1393

[Turbo44]

1 hour ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

How concerned should we be with Franklin's weight? He's 176 and three inches taller than Xavier Worthy. 

I wouldn't be concerned - muscle can be added, height cannot

[Motorin']

3 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

He was sick, or so he (and his agent) says.

 

He weighed in at 183lbs at his pro-day. He should be able to get up to 190 and some upper body strength.

 

The best part of his game that has been analyzed recently is that he has amongst the best release movement off the line. Very Diggesque.

[HomeskillitMoorman]

4 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

He weighed in at 183lbs at his pro-day. He should be able to get up to 190 and some upper body strength.

 

The best part of his game that has been analyzed recently is that he has amongst the best release movement off the line. Very Diggesque.

 

That's at least good to hear. I thought I read stuff from other people here that they thought he was going to have trouble getting off the line in the NFL. 

[LABILLBACKER]

I'm perfectly fine with Franklin @ 33.  But I'm hoping teams shy away from Mitchell and he's there for us near 60?

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

1 hour ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

I think we would all be thrilled to land Franklin anywhere in the second round.

Hear hear. 

 

He is my first choice of the remaining options 

[Logic]

1 minute ago, Turbo44 said:

I wouldn't be concerned - muscle can be added, height cannot. I'd be thrilled with Franklin at 33 and Baker or Rice, Polk, McCorley, Roman Wilson, Burton as a followup

I wouldn't be concerned - muscle can be added, height cannot. I'd be thrilled with Franklin at 33 and Baker or Rice, Polk, McCorley, Roman Wilson, Burton as a follow up

I wouldn't be concerned - muscle can be added, height cannot. I'd be thrilled with Franklin at 33 and Baker or Rice, Polk, McCorley, Roman Wilson, Burton as a follow up

But should I be concerned? 

[Freddie's Dead]

Good analysis, I'm voting for Laddie. Please fix your title (2024). 

[TheBrownBear]

37 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

 

That's at least good to hear. I thought I read stuff from other people here that they thought he was going to have trouble getting off the line in the NFL. 

He's got good release technique that makes up for non-elite burst in the first 10 yards.  His biggest weakness to me is his contested catch ability.  He's a guy that needs to catch it in space.

[msw2112]

I fully admit that I don't know a lot about Franklin.  I'm always hesitant about Oregon players because they play more of a video game style of football and they play against very few teams with good defenses.  How would they look against Michigan or Alabama's defense?  I feel like their offensive players' stats are inflated.  That said, there a lot of knowledgeable folks on this board and also in the Bills' front office.  If they believe that Franklin is the real deal, and they pick him at 33, I'm on board. 

 

I'm not terribly high on Worthy.  I see him more as John Ross or Marquise Goodwin than a Tyreke Hill.  I like what Mitchell brings to the table physically, but I've read that he takes plays off and that's not the kind of player that the Bills need.  I have also read that Legette, while super talented physically, is not very bright and could struggle with the playbook and schemes.  With Mitchell and Legette, I see shades of Sammy Watkins.  I see McKonkey as more of a complimentary player than a WR#1, and similar to Shakir, but again, if the Bills brass think he's the guy, I can live with it.

 

Given how things fell, I'm OK with the trading back and think it was wise.  "Helping KC" may not have been the ideal, but given all the facts (and the Bills' opinion of Worthy), it was the right move and the 2nd trade back was unquestionably the right move unless they were interested in drafting Legette at 32, which, obviously, they were not.  Tonight should be interesting and fun.

Edited April 26 by msw2112

[Don Otreply]

5 hours ago, 2003Contenders said:

I agree -- the only caveat I have is that if there is as great of demand for other teams to move up to #33 as Beane claims, he would be hard-pressed to avoid trading down if an offer comes in that is too good to refuse.

That only works if you can still get the players your after / need, 

[Nephilim17]

6 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

Also interesting to note that the Bills possess two players who are tied at 13th for the fastest 40 times ever! 

Samuel? and ???