ToGoGo Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 17 minutes ago, H2o said: "The Chiefs, THE CHIEFS have bested us again!!!" EXACTLY what this is. Fear based loser mentality. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo4Life01 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, ToGoGo said: EXACTLY what this is. Fear based loser mentality. It's also REALITY. How can you possibly look at what has transpired between the Bills and the Chiefs going back to the 2017 draft and not feel the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) The top 4 WRs were of the board. And Beane saw the remaining WRs left and strengths but also weaknesses. So Instead of reaching he is shifting the lower part of the draft upwards. Its not sexy but he is playing the cards hes been dealt. I also expect more moves and I'm thinking we end up with 4 top 100 picks, lots of lower picks to work and plenty of value on the table Edited April 26 by ddaryl 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 19 minutes ago, DJB said: This. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I’m still excited about the opportunities on the board. AD Mitchell has as much potential as any receiver in the draft. I HOPE he interviewed well, as McD won’t want to take on another diva and there are reports of him taking plays off. I don’t think that is abnormal, nor am I concerned about the diabetes. If he’s got the right attitude he could be a great fit. If AD is off our board, Ladd most certainly has to be the best potential WR. In many ways his game mirrors Diggs. Great route runner, can play inside or out, and ran 4.39. He’s not big, slightly smaller than Steph, and has had issues staying on the field, so that’s a bit concerning. What worries me is throughout the process it’s looked like they love Troy Franklin. IF they go a different direction at 33, I’d be fine with a move up from 60 to grab him once the WR’s start to fall. I don’t like him at 33, not great value. Now IF they swerve us and wait on WR there are a couple guys who offer value and fit need. Cooper Dejean has been most talked about, but I think I’d go Newton. Yes he’s a bit too similar to Oliver, but the dude is a great player. Pairing him with Ed on 3rd downs could help the DE situation in that they’d terrorize the pocket up the middle. Final thought, with more draft capital we can definitely double dip today and walk away with 3 players that should contribute right away. Damn it’s going to be a long wait! Go Bills! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 don't do it When you wanna go do it Relax, don't do it When you wanna come Relax, don't do it When you wanna suck, chew it Relax, don't do it When you wanna come When you wanna come 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual fan Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 This draft is like getting clothes for Christmas is all. Maybe practical but not as much fun. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 3 minutes ago, Buffalo4Life01 said: It's also REALITY. How can you possibly look at what has transpired between the Bills and the Chiefs going back to the 2017 draft and not feel the same? I do not live like that. You want to be the best you simply beat the best. I'm sure Beane explored other options but KC may have been the only option. I love Allen as our QB and I don't stew at all about that trade. Allen's not the reason we haven't gotten over the hump 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Buffalo4Life01 said: It's also REALITY. How can you possibly look at what has transpired between the Bills and the Chiefs going back to the 2017 draft and not feel the same? People are acting like Xavier Worthy is automatically some world beater just because he ran a 4.21 40 time. John Ross ran a 4.22 and was a nobody. Mecole Hardman ran a 4.33 and has been the very definition of meh. He was solid in college, but he wasn't exactly feared. The knocks on him are he takes plays off when he is not the preliminary target, hand strength, he's built like a pretzel stick, and doesn't really shift gears in relation to football placement as he should. Until he actually proves to be a threat, I'm not worried at all. Edited April 26 by H2o 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagoon Blues Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) 21 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: If he's not managing that given what he does, with the resources of two different major football programs with all the resources a player could ask for that speaks to a lack of maturity as much as anything else. It's not about the Bills managing his diabetes, it's about him managing his diabetes. Could he start? Sure. Why would he begin now if he hasn't already? Agree, If he is a type 1 diabetic(which I don't know 1 or 2, havent looked into it other than message board banter)... if he isn't managing it well he would not be able to do anything at an optimal level which he has shown let alone live very long. Most people dont understand the difference between type 1 and type 2 Edited April 26 by Lagoon Blues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 If Beane trades down again another time or two and manages to get about 6 top 100 players, I actually wouldn't mind that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 38 minutes ago, Pete said: IMO DeJean would be the pick, and an exceptional pick. But my guess is someone makes too good an offer for pick 33, and that Beane stockpiles top 100 picks Excellent strategy. If he plays his cards right the Bills could corner the market in round 7 with 32 picks! Big Baller Bean make it happen. 🙃 ok..back to reality....there's going to be a breaking point at which they'd have to limit the number of players chosen. They still have to fit them under the cap, and too many picks mean practice squad, poached players, and ultimately wasted draft choices. I seriously doubt they'd consider adding picks. Just dealing with an overabundance of rookies and UFAs could be a headache for the coaching staff trying to get ready for the season. If anything, I think it's more likely to parlay multiple picks for less picks, but improved positioning. BTW - I'm not a draftnik, so I know little about the prospects, but looking at the video for DeJean, an Iowa kid, he just looks like the sort of player that Beane often targets. I wonder if they decide to go with him if they'd bundle some of the excess draft picks with Elam, who could become expendable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo4Life01 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 12 minutes ago, ddaryl said: I do not live like that. You want to be the best you simply beat the best. I'm sure Beane explored other options but KC may have been the only option. I love Allen as our QB and I don't stew at all about that trade. Allen's not the reason we haven't gotten over the hump Allen is the main reason we have remained competitive these last 5 years. It's because of him and in spite of the blunders made by Beane and the front office. Say what you want to or feel how you feel, but to me it's obvious our coaching staff and management is lightyears behind KC's. As long as that is the case, we will always be chasing them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 21 minutes ago, Buffalo4Life01 said: It's also REALITY. How can you possibly look at what has transpired between the Bills and the Chiefs going back to the 2017 draft and not feel the same? Hahahahahahahahha. I plan on not living in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 7 minutes ago, Lagoon Blues said: Agree, If he is a type 1 diabetic(which I don't know 1 or 2, havent looked into it other than message board banter)... if he isn't managing it well he would not be able to do anything at an optimal level which he has shown let alone live very long. Most people dont understand the difference between type 1 and type 2 It's type 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins101 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 52 minutes ago, The Wiz said: I honestly can't see them picking at 33. They could have drafted at 32 and got someone with a 5th year option. Now they don't have that by moving one pick. They are going to take calls all day and move back again IMO. It’s definitely still possible. Beane could have viewed the trade as moving down 1 pick, and only losing the 5th year option, in exchange for later moving from 95 to ~85. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 The only smart move is to trade back again. Somehow turn #28 and #60 into 3 second round picks. Maybe drop back to AZ and give them one of our fourths for their late 3rd rounder. Bills still take Mitchell at 35 and then have 60 and two 3rd round picks and 3 fourths to play with later in the second. I don't think you can drop back lower than Washington or the Chargers and get your WR. Both probably take WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo4Life01 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 5 minutes ago, ToGoGo said: Hahahahahahahahha. I plan on not living in the past. How is not feeling super positive about this draft based on recent history between Buffalo and KC "living in the past"? How confident do you feel about the current regime and their ability and or desire to give Allen the weapons he needs/deserves to contend with KC and the Bengals going forward? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 For so many years people complained that Buddy Nix/Whaley never traded back and everyone wanted us to be like New England and trade back until you find value and stockpile picks. Beane is doing it and everyone seems upset. I liked but did not love Worthy. The majority of Bills fans thought he was a small, one trick pony who would get pushed around...but now that he was drafted by the Chiefs he is Tyreek Hill. If we took Worthy at 28 there would still be a ton of people complaining. The trading with KC thing is a little annoying, but at the end of the day, not taking the deal does not prevent KC from getting their guy. I think you have to be open to dealing with ALL teams, no matter who they are. If KC would have traded up for Ricky Pearsall people who have said the Chiefs were playing 3D chess and we were playing checkers. If we took Pearsall there would be rioting in the streets. The 5th year option stuff is mostly inconsequential to me. If the player is good by year 3 they get extended anyway. The 5th year option can be a detriment at times, especially later in the round and especially if you are picking someone you do not have a first round grade on. Beane is collecting ammunition to move around the board tonight and if he doesn't believe in the players that were there then trading back makes 100% sense. Whoever he takes tonight, people will complain. If he takes Franklin it's gonna be "well he could have had Pearsalll or Worthy or Mitchell or Coleman." If he takes Mitchell it's gonna be "well he has diabetes and they should have just taking Worthy to Franklin or whatever." I guess my point is, people will likely not be happy with whatever happens tonight, but I believe that Beane is doing the right thing here. I hope he picks the right players. I know its hard not to get emotional, but I just feel like it's a pointless venture. Let's wait and see. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Great Aaron Rodgers is now a bills fan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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