Bangarang Posted April 26 Posted April 26 I don't hate the trade with KC. Seemed like they were going to get Worthy regardless and we took a 3rd rounder from them in the process. 1
ChattanoogaBills Posted April 26 Posted April 26 36 minutes ago, mathja said: Let’s say the weapon they would have added @28 was AD Mitchell. If they add AD Mitchell @ 33 is it still unacceptable? THIS!!! Why would you prefer we draft the same player at #28 that we pick at #33. 1
PauleeeWalnuts Posted April 26 Posted April 26 23 minutes ago, MJS said: This type of emotional response shows why being a fan clouds your judgement. Luckily, Beane is not a fan of the Bills. He is a professional who can look past petty rivalries and focus on what is good for the Bills and what is not. Helping KC get better is not good for the Bills. 1 2
Bill from NYC Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Sure! Great move by McDummy to help the Chiefs improve their team by getting the player they want. i wonder why nobody on this board came up with this novel idea. No prob, there are still plenty of safeties ready to be picked. 1 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) 12 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said: I don’t understand this. If the Bills took somebody else, The Chiefs still could have ended up with Worthy anyways. Obviously the Bills weren’t high on him. Getting the 3rd rounder seems very important to Beane. Earlier he was bemoaning the Bills expected to be awarded a 3rd round compensatory pick but got a 4th. Is that 3rd rounder part of the compensation for a trade deal in the works or does he just badly need to get back into the 3rd round? I speculate wildly here but maybe the 3rd rounder is the price, or part of the price, the 49ers are looking for as part of an Aiyuk tradel? I think most of us can agree Brendon has greater immediate impact and value than any player we might have drafted at 28. Beane would have to work some cap numbers for 2024 but with the Diggs contract cleared in 2025 the numbers for an extention would be easier to handle. It was interesting SF took Pearsall with their pick. Maybe they're just looking to upgrade WR3? Could their be another team looking to move a veteran WR? Assuming I might be right (which might be a long-shot) the Bills could go CB with the 2/1 pick with DeJean and immediately upgrade the secondary. And use the later 2nd rounder on BPA. Edited April 26 by All_Pro_Bills
ProcessImproverMan Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Trust the process. Beane has a long track record of bringing in elite WRs like Kelvin Benjamin, Terrelle Pryor, Tavon Austin, Marquez Stevenson, Ray-Ray McCloud, Brandon Powell, Justin Shorter, and Austin Proehl. Beane also has a long track record of bringing in elite defensive talent like Ed Oliver, Kaiir Elam, Boogie Basham, AJ Epeneza, Gregory Rousseau, etc who cant even sack or Int Mahomes once in the playoffs. Trust the process. 2 1 1
UKBillFan Posted April 26 Posted April 26 I don't think it can be judged until we see how the rest of the draft, and possibly close season, pans out. For now - despite my emotional reaction at the time when the Chiefs drafted Worthy - I think they're good moves.
YoloinOhio Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) 9 minutes ago, PauleeeWalnuts said: Helping KC get better is not good for the Bills. The only way to keep them from drafting this particular player was to take him themselves. If they didn’t want him and didn’t have a 1st rd grade on him, that would be a terrible strategy. KC was going to get better with whoever they took in the 1st just like every team. Sure another team could have taken worthy in between 29 and 32 but no way to know that given he’s not a consensus 1st rd graded WR and the Bills can’t waste draft value and turn away a free 3rd just bc it’s a rival. If they didn’t go the trade the most likely scenario is the Bills reached on a player at 28 based on their board, the chiefs take worthy at another spot, at 32 or they trade up with someone else and take him there, and the Bills don’t get the 3rd. Seems like a worse option. Edited April 26 by YoloinOhio 2
DasNootz Posted April 26 Posted April 26 54 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Voted no just because I’m a big Worthy believer and it’s tough to shake the feeling that the Bills now not only let the Chiefs get Mahomes but also his next Tyreek. I do get it in a vacuum though. If I were just told hey we made these trades and got these picks but I did not know it was KC then I’d probably be all about having 3 top 100 picks this year. This…. If Worthy wasn’t our guy - KC was getting him anyway. At least this way we strengthen our draft capital and weaken theirs. Outside of Elam, Beane and Co. have shown their willingness to move up and get their guy (especially physical freaks). Obviously there is something they didn’t like with Worthy. 1
Lost Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) 22 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: So Dalton Kincaid is dog food? If the Bills also pick up at least 1 WR in a deep class will Josh still have no weapons? The worry is that we replace Gabe Davis with...Gabe Davis or worse, another slot guy. The WRs who have slipped to rd 2 did so for a reason. And then we possibly will be trading picks to replace a top 10 receiver with a more expensive vet for the ultimately the same production, all the while still paying Diggs' salary. It makes me a little uneasy that we're going into day 2 of the draft with a bottom 3 receiving unit. The end result may work out okay but the process is a bit weird at times. Some Examples - Giving Justin Jefferson to Minnesota to get Diggs only to hear rumors recently of maybe the Bills trying to trade for Jefferson. We coulda had the dude on a rookie contract this whole time. - Signing Dawson Knox to a huge contract and then drafting a TE the following season. - Releasing Isiah McKenzie and then singing his equivalent replacement for 3 times the price. Edited April 26 by Lost 2 1
Roundybout Posted April 26 Posted April 26 7 minutes ago, ProcessImproverMan said: Trust the process. Beane has a long track record of bringing in elite WRs like Kelvin Benjamin, Terrelle Pryor, Tavon Austin, Marquez Stevenson, Ray-Ray McCloud, Brandon Powell, Justin Shorter, and Austin Proehl. Beane also has a long track record of bringing in elite defensive talent like Ed Oliver, Kaiir Elam, Boogie Basham, AJ Epeneza, Gregory Rousseau, etc who cant even sack or Int Mahomes once in the playoffs. Trust the process. You cannot call late season/practice squad flyers on guys like Tavon Austin a knock on Beane. Come on dude.
SCBills Posted April 26 Posted April 26 I hate the idea of trading with KC, but do like that we now have 3 picks tonight and 5 early Day 3 picks to attack the meat of this draft. WR is looking scary though.. Need to come away with a double dip, but aside from a trade for a vet WR.. they clearly have elevated Kincaid to the potential star of the passing game with a Green Bay type WR room. I wouldn’t count on Shakir, Samuel and two rookies to replace what Diggs gave us in his prime … but that also might not be needed. Still.. looking over at KC and I want to die: Pacheco Kelce Brown Rice Worthy They continue to invest for Mahomes… Skyy Moore and Kadarius Toney haven’t worked out.. we’ll see if this group does.
Teddy KGB Posted April 26 Posted April 26 1 hour ago, Gugny said: I don’t think worrying about other teams is a good strategy. Clearly, there was no one at 28 who the Bills wanted. The fact that KC ended up getting a WR with our pick doesn’t faze me. I don’t care what KC does. I find it hard fo believe that Beane is content going into next season with our current WRs plus any receiver(s) he gets in subsequent rounds. He has a plan. is that plan get pantsed by KC in the playoffs until McDummy and Beane get canned ? 2
nedboy7 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Question is will you like these moves when we don’t draft a WR in the second. 1
djp14150 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 1 hour ago, Gugny said: The purpose of this poll is to get an idea of how the TBD community feels about Beane’s strategy on night one before the rest of the draft plays out. There is no “wait and see” option for a reason. I personally like what Beane did and I’m interested to see how others feel. The fire Beane thread posted early this morning didn’t sy anything? …….
78thealltimegreat Posted April 26 Posted April 26 The second trade yes but the first trade is going to haunt them. Worthy does the one thing well the chiefs needed a vertical threat he’s basically their version of Deshawn Jackson. Josh quite frankly is going to have to put on his Superman cape again for them to even stay in the game with the chiefs now.
bearstobills Posted April 26 Posted April 26 1 hour ago, Gugny said: The purpose of this poll is to get an idea of how the TBD community feels about Beane’s strategy on night one before the rest of the draft plays out. There is no “wait and see” option for a reason. I personally like what Beane did and I’m interested to see how others feel. I think a more pointed question would be... 1.) Would you rather have Xavier Legette, Xavier Worthy, or Ricky Pearsall in the first round OR 2.) Would you rather add a 3rd round pick, and have a choice between Troy Franklin, Adonai Mitchell, or Ladd McConkey in the 2nd round
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