SirAndrew Posted April 26 Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, billsfan714 said: I wonder how these trades score on the trade charts. I thought the returns were also a little weak. I’ve wondered that as well, people keep talking about all these fifth round picks. How much value do they actually have in these trade up scenarios? 1
WEATHER DOT COM Posted April 26 Posted April 26 1 minute ago, SirAndrew said: I’ve wondered that as well, people keep talking about all these fifth round picks. How much value do they actually have in these trade up scenarios? Saw last night the KC trade was in the top 10 weakest returns for a similar move per the value chart 1 2
SirAndrew Posted April 26 Posted April 26 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Not really. Through the entire process I wanted Beane to go all in and get Josh a stud WR1 to play with for the next 10 years. I hate being timid. Similarly, feels like Beane got caught with his pants down when Jacksonville took BTJr (which was stupid because they have a lot of defensive needs). Yeah, once I got over the KC trade, I was more disappointed we couldn’t make any trades up the board. It felt like the right time to go all in considering where Josh is in his career. This felt like a conservative McBeane play, and very much part of the philosophy that keeps us from taking the next step. You can only worry about tomorrow for so long. It’s a great team building philosophy to end a drought, but I think it’s time to be aggressive.
BarleyNY Posted April 26 Posted April 26 42 minutes ago, NoName said: How do you trade with KC? The team that kicked your ass every year. What a moron. There’s almost no way that this works out positively. Every TD pass thrown from the NFL’s best QB (who the Bills handed to KC) to the WR that holds the combine 40 record (who the Bills handed to KC) will be an emotional trauma. It will repeatedly churn up that Mahomes trade. After a big trade up for one of the top 3 WRs I honestly thought that our next best option was a trade back to acquire another meaningful pick in this year’s draft. But that couldn’t be with KC. This is devastating. 1
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 26 Posted April 26 54 minutes ago, Gugny said: The purpose of this poll is to get an idea of how the TBD community feels about Beane’s strategy on night one before the rest of the draft plays out. There is no “wait and see” option for a reason. I personally like what Beane did and I’m interested to see how others feel. Absolutely. I said it at least a hundred times before the draft. 28 is the absolute WORST place to be drafting, because it means you're too good to get good talent, and too bad to win it all. Better to trade out of round 1 and take a billion whacks at the pinata. example: Green Bay.
BillsMontreal Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Have to wait and see after all this draft, but i say no this morning. The Chiefs called for a trade in this draft? He should say: sorry, you have the wrong number, no matter what. We dont even steal a pick from them. If Beane traded up with a rival in the AFC to pick, let say, a Thomas JR, without even losing a single pick in our draft, we would all say he is a genius and we would all make fun of the other team. I have no doupt about it. At the end, it's his team and he is well paid to built it again around Allen. He does what he wants and i respect that. For all fans and his job, Mahomes-Worthy better dont beat us..but let say Beane has the balls to do what he wants.
K-9 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Beane said he didn’t have 28 first round grades so I nave no problem with him sticking to his board and trading out of the 1st round. Yeah, it sucks that it was KC, but as others have said, they would have taken Worthy, anyway. If it were anyone BUT the Chiefs, I doubt too many would be upset today, except the children on WGR. 2
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 26 Posted April 26 6 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: There’s almost no way that this works out positively. Every TD pass thrown from the NFL’s best QB (who the Bills handed to KC) to the WR that holds the combine 40 record (who the Bills handed to KC) will be an emotional trauma. It will repeatedly churn up that Mahomes trade. After a big trade up for one of the top 3 WRs I honestly thought that our next best option was a trade back to acquire another meaningful pick in this year’s draft. But that couldn’t be with KC. This is devastating. very dramatic very scary 1
NoSaint Posted April 26 Posted April 26 46 minutes ago, PauleeeWalnuts said: Definitely not, the trade with KC alone makes him a moron. They’re trying to do to Josh what they did to Cam, be Superman and get it done all by himself. This guy prefers to stack 5th rounders over picking 1st rounders. While I don’t agree with the last sentence… it’s an all time risky trade. if worthy pans out that we gave them mahomes and worthy is a blistering narrative - the type of which will be repeated a million times and define this era if Josh gets hurt playing hero ball it really becomes something. Hopefully we land a couple pieces and feel better fast. I have to assume they have like 3 guys graded similarly and are all good sliding til 1-2 get picked and I like that philosophy but if we are tied to kc getting a star it becomes not a little flub but something that changes this groups identity and that won’t be worth the picks to try to overcome
babulator Posted April 26 Posted April 26 The draft fell pretty perfectly for us to make a small jump up for Brian Thomas Jr, or to stand pat and take Worthy. The fact that we let our primary rival snag their WR of the future for a relatively modest return feels like salt in the wound. I'm not a big fan of Mitchell or McConkey so landing either of these guys will only make it feel worse. I'm hearing Joe Brady tried to recruit Troy Franklin, but taking him @ 33 doesn't make sense. I imagine Beane's been working the lines all night/morning to move back a few more spots to take him where it makes more sense. I could see us then using some of the gained draft capital to move back up in the 2nd, or elsewhere to get some better value. 1
RyanC883 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 i voted yes. lots if great WRs available. Grab a speedy route runner/deep threat (McConey, etc.) and Polk, Mitchell, etc). combo and all is good.
BeavercreekBillsFan Posted April 26 Posted April 26 53 minutes ago, Lost said: We're gonna end up going into 2024 with Josh Allen and a bunch of JAGs. I'm pretty salty we didn't make a move for one of the top 4 WRs. As unrealistic as it may have been to land someone like Odunze, Brian Thomas certainly wasn't out of reach. Outside of Diggs, we always go into every season with Josh and a bunch of crap. Nothing new. 1
NoSaint Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) 22 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: There’s almost no way that this works out positively. Every TD pass thrown from the NFL’s best QB (who the Bills handed to KC) to the WR that holds the combine 40 record (who the Bills handed to KC) will be an emotional trauma. It will repeatedly churn up that Mahomes trade. After a big trade up for one of the top 3 WRs I honestly thought that our next best option was a trade back to acquire another meaningful pick in this year’s draft. But that couldn’t be with KC. This is devastating. can you imagine if reporters start asking Josh if he had worthy down the line if the dudes playing well he could tank and beane could get a better player tonight but it’s a HELL of a risk compared to almost any other trade partner Edited April 26 by NoSaint 1
Back2Buff Posted April 26 Posted April 26 I can not believe we let Legette get drafted when we had the chance to take him. This is a colossal failure. Legette literally told the Bills Carolina was taking him. There is already questions are about this regime being able to evaluate talent, and I have no faith they get this correct. 1
Roundybout Posted April 26 Posted April 26 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: i voted yes. lots if great WRs available. Grab a speedy route runner/deep threat (McConey, etc.) and Polk, Mitchell, etc). combo and all is good. Yeah, that’s about where I’m at. I hope we double dip. And again, I am so thankful that Carolina took Legette and not us. 1
NewEra Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Getting additional picks (including a day 2 pick) and being on the board with a handful of players I’d like the bills to draft is cool with me. Am I happy with what he does on day 2? We’ll find out. But I’m good with what we did rd 1.
KellyToTasker Posted April 26 Posted April 26 5 minutes ago, NoSaint said: While I don’t agree with the last sentence… it’s an all time risky trade. if worthy pans out that we gave them mahomes and worthy is a blistering narrative - the type of which will be repeated a million times and define this era if Josh gets hurt playing hero ball it really becomes something. Hopefully we land a couple pieces and feel better fast. I have to assume they have like 3 guys graded similarly and are all good sliding til 1-2 get picked and I like that philosophy but if we are tied to kc getting a star it becomes not a little flub but something that changes this groups identity and that won’t be worth the picks to try to overcome This. Having a history of “giving” Mahomes to KC, unable to beat them in the playoffs, makes KC a team you just don’t do business with. Doesn’t matter what draft grades you have, who you think they’ll take, whatever. You just don’t do it. Reid will scheme a Worthy special in the playoffs and we’ll hear it over and over. 1 1
Mr. WEO Posted April 26 Posted April 26 59 minutes ago, Gugny said: I don’t think worrying about other teams is a good strategy. Clearly, there was no one at 28 who the Bills wanted. The fact that KC ended up getting a WR with our pick doesn’t faze me. I don’t care what KC does. I find it hard fo believe that Beane is content going into next season with our current WRs plus any receiver(s) he gets in subsequent rounds. He has a plan. are you under duress?? who made you right this? blink S-O-S if you are in danger
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