Motorin' Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Just now, Roundybout said: Becuase he’s allergic to going over the middle so he has to rely on low-percentage throws to the outside and deep Coleman is allergic to going over the middle?
BillsFan130 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 4 minutes ago, glazeduck said: 100% right, but also wasn’t my point. All of these ranking sites and message boards are being populated by fans with extremely limited information. When even the pros with all of the info get it wrong as often as they do, it’s just not worth the hysteria that some folks are bringing. I mean, fair points. But who do you trust more with offensive players, Andy Reid or Sean McDermott/beane? Andy Reid obviously was confident enough to trade up for a WR in the 1st round which is a glaring need for the bills 1
Success Posted April 26 Posted April 26 You don't trade with KC!!! Well, unless you're making them give up draft capital for a player they very likely would have gotten by staying at 32. If I'm a KC fan, my complaint today is that we gave the Bills a 3rd rounder for nuthin'. 1 1 2
ndirish1978 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 I wanted Legette, but they didn't. I'm bummed they didn't want the guy I thought could help us a lot. I hope they are right. 3
Roundybout Posted April 26 Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Coleman is allergic to going over the middle? Yes, one of the biggest knocks on him is he has an extremely limited route tree. https://www.si.com/college/fsu/fsu-football-nfl-draft-preview-keon-coleman-2024
What a Tuel Posted April 26 Posted April 26 should be a 3rd option about waiting to see what comes of it today.
glazeduck Posted April 26 Posted April 26 3 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: I mean, fair points. But who do you trust more with offensive players, Andy Reid or Sean McDermott/beane? Andy Reid obviously was confident enough to trade up for a WR in the 1st round which is a glaring need for the bills Both have had their hits and misses. Again not really my point though. For all we know all of these guys had some major enough red flag that Beane and co. weren’t even considering them. Think of it that way — Reading the hundreds of posts on here and Twitter of fans freaking out about the same 3 or 4 dudes — what a waste of time and energy and emotion, all for something that potentially doesn’t even exist. As with all drafts, only time will tell. That’s one of the biggest challenges in drafting 21 and 22 year old young men, none of them are even grownups yet. I have my opinions and favorites like everyone else, but without more info I have no idea how reasonable or realistic those are.
DrDawkinstein Posted April 26 Posted April 26 I know it's easy to sit out here and criticize and second guess, and I love me some Brandon Beane, but... The board calling for: Linderbaum or Dax Hill over Elam Humphrey over Basham DK Metcalf over Cody Ford We've been more correct in this range than the Bills FO. Beane better have a few more magic tricks up his sleeve tonight. 2 2
glazeduck Posted April 26 Posted April 26 5 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Yes, one of the biggest knocks on him is he has an extremely limited route tree. https://www.si.com/college/fsu/fsu-football-nfl-draft-preview-keon-coleman-2024 Yeah I can’t see Coleman as the pick. He’s a guy that’s going to take a couple years and even then may be a specialist type. Doesn’t feel like a great fit for a team trying to win a Super Bowl and needing WRs to step immediately into a starting role. 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: I know it's easy to sit out here and criticize and second guess, and I love me some Brandon Beane, but... The board calling for: Linderbaum or Dax Hill over Elam Humphrey over Basham DK Metcalf over Cody Ford We've been more correct in this range than the Bills FO. Beane better have a few more magic tricks up his sleeve tonight. As probably THE loudest guy on this board wanting DK even over Oliver, I feel this one, for sure. Beane probably shouldn’t be anywhere near as Teflon as he is. Guess we’ll see…
FireChans Posted April 26 Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I know it's easy to sit out here and criticize and second guess, and I love me some Brandon Beane, but... The board calling for: Linderbaum or Dax Hill over Elam Humphrey over Basham DK Metcalf over Cody Ford We've been more correct in this range than the Bills FO. Beane better have a few more magic tricks up his sleeve tonight. Go one step further. Kupp/Juju over Zayday
amprov56 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 3 hours ago, Gugny said: I don’t think worrying about other teams is a good strategy. Clearly, there was no one at 28 who the Bills wanted. The fact that KC ended up getting a WR with our pick doesn’t faze me. I don’t care what KC does. I find it hard fo believe that Beane is content going into next season with our current WRs plus any receiver(s) he gets in subsequent rounds. He has a plan. Using way too much reason here, but great assessment!
hondo in seattle Posted April 26 Posted April 26 I voted "yes" simply because I trust Beane (he's an above-average GM) and I didn't love the WRs available based on the little I saw and read. I'm really curious to see what he's going to do today, though. And I'd love to hear his reasoning. (I would have selected "wait and see" if Gugs included that).
DrDawkinstein Posted April 26 Posted April 26 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: Go one step further. Kupp/Juju over Zayday Ehh, there are some others too, but those were the examples where the board was SCREAMING and ended up right. Plus Beane wasnt here in 2017 yet. But that does highlight their WR acumen. 1
Sestak4ever Posted April 26 Posted April 26 I think Beane is just following his board, not going to reach or cave to pressure. That is a good strategy and yet very difficult to remain disciplined and stick to the hard work done leading up to it. Go Bills!🏈🍻
DCOrange Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Becuase he’s allergic to going over the middle so he has to rely on low-percentage throws to the outside and deep Edit: 45% of his targets and 46% of his catches the last two years were over the middle. Edited April 26 by DCOrange 1
SaulGoodman Posted April 26 Posted April 26 4 hours ago, Gugny said: I don’t think worrying about other teams is a good strategy. Clearly, there was no one at 28 who the Bills wanted. The fact that KC ended up getting a WR with our pick doesn’t faze me. I don’t care what KC does. I find it hard fo believe that Beane is content going into next season with our current WRs plus any receiver(s) he gets in subsequent rounds. He has a plan. This was one of the rare times that Buffalo had control over what KC does. And they handed them the player they coveted, gift-wrapped. 1 1
NoSaint Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) 27 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: They could. Equally someone else could have traded into #28 (we know the Bills had other calls - Beane told us so) and other teams could have called Dallas, Baltimore, San Fran as well had Worthy still been there. I think it is more likely than not that they'd have got him anyway. But it isn't a complete given. And I do think there is a principle question about whether you should ever be in the market to help them. Put it this way, if he ends up a stud in KC l this trade will put some pressure on Beane. I don't mind the outcome, because I am sceptical about Worthy as a #1 receiver. But I think there are legit questions about whether as a point of principle it is the right process. if the narrative becomes the bills built the chiefs core it’s bad for beane, bad for the locker room, bad for league wide perception if leggette becomes moss it sucks but life happens if the bills traded the chiefs a hall of fame qb and a pro bowl wr to continue their dynasty - that’s a catastrophe Edited April 26 by NoSaint 2 1 1
QLBillsFan Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) 3 hours ago, Buddy Hix said: Trading with KC, a team that is better and smarter than OBD in every sense, makes me angry. Like, you know they outclass you on the field and off, avoid helping them at all costs. Whatever, let's run the ball and pretend it's 1990, and continue wasting a unicorn QB. KC blogs destroyed BB for the lowest value trade down up in the history of the draft. KC front office chess and Bills checkers. Edited April 26 by QLBillsFan
schoolhouserock Posted April 26 Posted April 26 The trade with KC was a good one. The Bills should have taken Legette at 32. The trade with Carolina is the one I don’t like.
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