The Bills are on the clock: Pick 33

[TheBeaneBandit]

I know Coleman isn't a popular pick around here, but the guy is a much better prospect than Benjamin or Q Johnstone. Those comps are just lazy and silly.

[SCBills]

Keon Coleman at 33 would be extremely underwhelming.  
 

Bills type character guy who has incredibly questionable skills in terms of translating to the NFL. 

 

He looks like a monster “Mossing” college DB’s..  That’s a green flag but also massive red flag. 
 

Seems like an “ok” player.   WR2 potential, but can he beat top corners … ehhh.  No clue.  
 

…but if we take him, it screams “we took a swell guy”. 
 

Already exhausted by having to justify the pick to myself.  

[HappyDays]

25 minutes ago, balln said:

Kelvin Benjamin. 

 

Kelvin Benjamin was a good WR until he gave up on trying. But anyways Coleman is not the same prospect. He's more athletic and better with the ball in his hands.

[damj]

18 hours ago, Old Coot said:

Going for quantity (picks) over quality?

We need quantity for depth. 

[balln]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

Kelvin Benjamin was a good WR until he gave up on trying. But anyways Coleman is not the same prospect. He's more athletic and better with the ball in his hands.

Super comparable. Beane / Carolina wanting a large poor separator jump ball wr from fsu

[Warriorspikes51]

Keon could be great  or out of the league in 4 years

[Mojo44]

Just now, Warriorspikes51 said:

Keon could be great  or out of the league in 4 years

I like how you narrowed down his window.😁. But I agree with you 100%

By the way, did I mention that I was numbing myself up with Irish whiskey? Well, I am. So………..Let’s get that punter before someone else does!

[Jdragon2]

4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Keon could be great  or out of the league in 4 years

I mean you could say that about any pick from rounds 2 onwards lol

[Beck Water]

18 hours ago, Lost said:

Mitchell is probably the only way to salvage this nightmare of a draft at this point. 

 

Screen name checks out

[starrymessenger]

52 minutes ago, Rich Stadium Original said:

Not sure if it's been mentioned already in this thread, but Cosell had some interesting comments today on OBL.

Said he looks at game films only, but parrotted that a lot have ranked Mitchell near the top three in terms of pure talent, but teams were scared away by the character issues.

If some of those are substantiated, he may fall quite a bit.

I’ve seen the random alleged lack of consistent effort on film. And you do sort of come away thinking that given his obvious natural gifts he should be better than he has shown eg blocking, YAC, taking plays off, running routes at half-speed etc… If thats all there is I would definitely still be all in unless there is something more serious that signals a serious lack of maturity and discipline that would adversely impact coachability (because he needs a lot of coaching). If the concerns are backed up with anything credible he is off the Bills board. George Pickens fell in the second partly because of alleged character issues. I hope we aren’t over reacting.

[HappyDays]

14 minutes ago, balln said:

Beane / Carolina wanting a large poor separator jump ball wr from fsu

 

Sorry but that's a lazy comparison. I respect people that don't like him as a prospect, but scout Keon Coleman, not Kelvin Benjamin. I also didn't like him as a prospect when I first read his profile. Then I watched all his snaps and I grew to really like him.

[balln]

Just now, HappyDays said:

 

Sorry but that's a lazy comparison. I respect people that don't like him as a prospect, but scout Keon Coleman, not Kelvin Benjamin. I also didn't like him as a prospect when I first read his profile. Then I watched all his snaps and I grew to really like him.

Ok fine it’s lazy. Who cares. If he’s that good bills should have taken him at 28. 

Edited April 26 by balln

[Roundybout]

6 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

I’ve seen the random alleged lack of consistent effort on film. And you do sort of come away thinking that given his obvious natural gifts he should be better than he has shown eg blocking, YAC, taking plays off, running routes at half-speed etc… If thats all there is I would definitely still be all in unless there is something more serious that signals a serious lack of maturity and discipline that would adversely impact coachability (because he needs a lot of coaching). If the concerns are backed up with anything credible he is off the Bills board. George Pickens fell in the second partly because of alleged character issues. I hope we aren’t over reacting.

 

I mean, as far as we know he hasn't pulled a Von Miller, a Zay Jones, or a Marcel Dareus. Right?

[Warriorspikes51]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

Sorry but that's a lazy comparison. I respect people that don't like him as a prospect, but scout Keon Coleman, not Kelvin Benjamin. I also didn't like him as a prospect when I first read his profile. Then I watched all his snaps and I grew to really like him.

if we take him, I hope he works out

 

just won’t be thrilled 

[Jdragon2]

Just now, balln said:

Ok fine it’s lazy. Who cares

lol. HERES MY OPINION! I know I did zero research to support it but you will respect it for some reason anyways!!!

 

that’s about right

[NoSaint]

20 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Keon Coleman at 33 would be extremely underwhelming.  
 

Bills type character guy who has incredibly questionable skills in terms of translating to the NFL. 

 

He looks like a monster “Mossing” college DB’s..  That’s a green flag but also massive red flag. 
 

Seems like an “ok” player.   WR2 potential, but can he beat top corners … ehhh.  No clue.  
 

…but if we take him, it screams “we took a swell guy”. 
 

Already exhausted by having to justify the pick to myself.  

you have to get a bunch more value trading back to consider him 

2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Sorry but that's a lazy comparison. I respect people that don't like him as a prospect, but scout Keon Coleman, not Kelvin Benjamin. I also didn't like him as a prospect when I first read his profile. Then I watched all his snaps and I grew to really like him.

he’s a big guy at 4.6+ speed. He’s a skinny tight end or a slow wr. It’s not the good kind of tweener. 

[Turk71]

1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said:

Justin Shorter was a top WR recruit coming from H.S. and he was picked late in the 5th round.  I don’t like Franklin’s route running, contested catches ability or ability to play strong on the boundary.  FWIW, Greg Cosell didn’t exactly articulate a ringing endorsement today on Buffalobills.com

Your Shorter comparison is beyond ridiculous. Shorter never gained more than 580 yds in a season or scored more than 3 tds.

 Franklin was one of the most dominant wrs in the country, gaining almost 1400 yds with 14 tds.

 His yprr metrics are elite across the board, vs press, single, double, zone

 You don't like his route running?

He is clever and deceptive and runs a full tree attacking all 3 levels. He's one of the better route runners in the class.

 

 

[TOboy]

Really want Mitchell here. Super high ceiling and all the tools and traits you look for. 
 

Unfortunately I don’t think they take him due to apparent “character” issues. 
 

If they stay at 33 it’s probably Ladd. 

[starrymessenger]

1 minute ago, Roundybout said:

 

I mean, as far as we know he hasn't pulled a Von Miller, a Zay Jones, or a Marcel Dareus. Right?

I dont think it takes much with this regime, especially now after the Diggs fiasco. A usually credible source told me Pickens was off their board.

[HappyDays]

4 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

he’s a big guy at 4.6+ speed. He’s a skinny tight end or a slow wr. It’s not the good kind of tweener. 

 

Ran the fastest gauntlet time of any WR at the combine. I just don't care about the 40 time.

 

He is a 2nd round prospect for me, not a 1st round prospect. I recognize his flaws. I am betting on his size and competitiveness and hands.

 

All things considered I want to draft him plus one of the other 5ish WRs that are considered 2nd rounders. Bet on two to double our chances.