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1 minute ago, Old Coot said:

Why would the Panthers trade to jump ahead of the Bills? Presumably they were afraid the Bills would take their guy Legette.


To prevent from the bills trading to another team. 
 

also Legette is considered raw so having the 5th year option may be desirable.

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3 minutes ago, LEBills said:

Franklin is better than any WR that went after pick 9 imo

Umm, no. Beyond bad combine and I just don't see adequate separation. NFL CBs will jam him and push him around. 

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1 minute ago, Process said:

Still very much alive. I'm waiting until we pick tomorrow before getting too worked up. 

 

I'm not worked up at all. The only wrong thing the Bills could do tonight was draft a non-WR, although that nightmare is unfortunately still a possibility. As long as we still draft a WR at #33, we made the best possible move for sure.

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6 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

Very puzzling to give up the 5th year of player control for what?

That’s such a lame point anymore.  Players hardly play under the fifth year option anymore.  Usually get extended before that 

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16 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

You are aware that there are plenty of sites that’ll show you the best available, right? 

 

And you are aware that those sites are incredibly inaccurate, right?

 

Please see tonight for reference 

Posted
18 minutes ago, Virgil said:

We spent a lot of time with DeJean, Franklin and Walker pre-draft. I think tomorrow, we either go DeJean and Walker, or Franklin and ??

McConkey 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Aurelius said:

Frankly I think Adonai Mitchell is probably the guy we wanted since Thomas went off the board. When we found out other teams would trade up and weren’t gonna take Mitchell, we agreed to trade down. 
 

We aren’t in the market for a small wide receiver like either of the Xavier’s, which were the only two off the board since we could have drafted potentially.  
 

Mitchell is 6’4”+ and 4.3 nastiness.  Another megatron type but faster.  We lost nothing by trading down, only gained more and better picks.  
 

I bet we go with Adonai tomorrow with first pick and we significantly bolstered our draft position by drafting down twice.  Bottom line is we don’t trade down if our guy at any position is there.  If he isn’t and we can still get him lower, then it’s money for us. 

I don't know how much time they spent with him pre-draft.  They met with Franklin multiple times.  Also met with McConkey.  

 

Tonight was puzzling, but Beane has earned the benefit of the doubt.  I don't doubt that he has a plan.  

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6 minutes ago, Old Coot said:

Going for quantity (picks) over quality?

 

I think they are repositioning their picks to be more valuable to move up from 60 which I think a lot of people agree is a dead zone for the Bills and their needs. Between the 3 trades they moved down 5 picks so far and gained 128 spots. That is significant when talking about moving around the board in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

 

I think its very possible the Bills field calls all night and move the 33rd pick as well. That pick is very valuable to sit on for 20 hours and field phone calls for. Might be able to get a premium for it. 

 

For Instance Buffalo and Green Bay makes a lot of sense tomorrow. Buffalo trades 33 and 163 and receives 41 and 88.

 

Its obvious the Bills have a group of WR's clumped together.

 

That would leave 8 picks between us and 41 with McConkey, Mitchell, Franklin & Coleman still on the board. Is it possible all 4 go sure but its highly unlikely and I have to believe Green Bay would want either DeJean or Newton which are big needs for them.

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2 minutes ago, iccrewman112 said:

The trade with Carolina is a no brainer for many reasons.

 

1. You confirm with Carolina the player they are moving up to select is not the player you want. If it is then you don’t make the trade.
2. you move up about 60 spots from late 6th to high 5th. That is the 125 ranked player vs the 185.

3. the newly acquired high 5th rounder is a much more valuable trade chip to improve 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounders.

4. The first pick in the 2nd round is often a highly traded pick as teams reevaluate their boards (since moving to the 3 day format), giving more trade down opportunities.

 

Not sure how you get 125th ranked player.  The fifth round pick they got is pick 141.  

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I think there is almost no chance the Bills actually make a selection at #33. Fully plan on seeing Beane trade back once again and pick up an additional pick.  

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11 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:

I think he is not our board.

 

I say Franklin/McConkey/Coleman or DeJean.

 

And than trade up a little bit in 2nd and 3rd to find some other starters.

I think it’s MCConkey and Coleman

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Just now, HappyDays said:

 

I'm not worked up at all. The only wrong thing the Bills could do tonight was draft a non-WR, although that nightmare is unfortunately still a possibility. As long as we still draft a WR at #33, we made the best possible move for sure.

Yup, exactly the point I was making in the OP. 

 

As long we go WR with the pick, we are good. 

 

Let's say the Bills like Mitchell, and took him at 28. Then it's extremely likely KC still gets Worthy, and Carolina still gets Leggette. So same exact outcome, except we don't get all the value we got from the trades. 

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I think we might trade down again.

 

Gut instinct is Beane wants two 2nd round picks to go WR/WR bang, bang, then spend another pick in the late 2nd early 3rd on safety.

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