Boatdrinks Posted April 26 Posted April 26 4 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said: Higgins or Aiyouk Aiyouk 1
RyanC883 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 2 hours ago, Roundybout said: looks like McD will be taking Cooper then. 1 1 1
HerdMentality Posted April 26 Posted April 26 This board tells me the choice is DeJean. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d6y5YK7S5pN8WgqF5t6qJSvpyQsA44hDkts8hPHDDSs/htmlview#
Logic Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) 2 minutes ago, HerdMentality said: This board tells me the choice is DeJean. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d6y5YK7S5pN8WgqF5t6qJSvpyQsA44hDkts8hPHDDSs/htmlview# Yes but, crucially: That board was not made by Brandon Beane and his staff. I like DeJean, too. It would be a very logical pick. I'm just saying...draft boards vary wildly. Edited April 26 by Logic
Bills aPHILLYate Posted April 26 Posted April 26 I want Mitchell at 33 firstly but I wouldn't be upset if we swapped with WAS for picks 40&100 They have 3 3rds... Get Franklin/Coleman/Conkley at 40, a DT at 60, a Safety and Tez Walker in the 3rd... Still got ammo to move up in rd 3 or acquire another 4th... That's potentially 6 players within the next 3 rds with starter potential or fills needs and you still have 4 picks in rds 5-7 for depth and camp bodies 1 1
Einstein's Dog Posted April 26 Posted April 26 4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I would curb your expectations...Beane made it pretty clear this isn't a move he thinks we need like we did when we traded for Diggs. I think this is less likely than the thought we would trade a bounty to move up in the draft. Nothing is off the table or impossible, just saying, this was always unlikely based on everything Beane has said, our cap situation, etc. And then the 3 WR contracts to the 2 Eagles WR and St. Brown happened making this even more unlikely as the price on these guys contracts will be even higher now. So just wouldn't get your hopes up even though I wouldn't 100% rule it out either as you never know, just very unlikely. I think a move for a trade for a WR that requires a lot of draft capital and money is unlikely. But I would think Beane would be interested in getting a veteran who is on a decent contract for some lower draft capital. DHop at $13M, DJ Moore at $15M, C Godwin or maybe DK Metcalf. Beane bought himself a whole day to see what he can get. A veteran plus a McConkey/Franklin/Coleman would be a home run to me.
OldTimer1960 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 2 hours ago, Yobogoya! said: I agree, but the draft isn’t over after pick 33. If we take Dejean here and still get someone like Franklin later in the second, thats the better combination of value based on what’s left, you have to agree with that. If we’ve waited until now, we can still add a player soon-ish. We already missed out on the top end prospects. No undoing that. Now we make the best of what’s left. I think they like Franklin, but I have a bad feeling that he isn’t as good as the Bills apparently think he is. 1
PayDaBill$ Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) Make a deal for Aiyouk using next years draft resources and maybe a pick this year. Every wr left is a crap shoot. Take the proven guy and grab Cooper D @ 33. Win , win! Edited April 26 by PayDaBill$ 1
LabattBlue Posted April 26 Posted April 26 1 minute ago, PayDaBill$ said: Make a deal for Aiyouk using next years draft resources and maybe a pick this year. Every wr left is a crap shoot. Take the proven guy and grab Cooper D @ 33. Win , win! You ready to pay Aiyuk $25-30m(maybe more) per, plus the draft capital to acquire him? 1
The Firebaugh Kid Posted April 26 Posted April 26 8 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: I think they like Franklin, but I have a bad feeling that he isn’t as good as the Bills apparently think he is. I have no idea why, but I get TJ Graham vibes from him 👀
PayDaBill$ Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) 4 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: You ready to pay Aiyuk $25-30m(maybe more) per, plus the draft capital to acquire him? He would be expensive. A proven receiver isn’t coming free or on the cheap. Any wr left on the board here is a big risk… Edited April 26 by PayDaBill$
london_bills Posted April 26 Posted April 26 12 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: I think a move for a trade for a WR that requires a lot of draft capital and money is unlikely. But I would think Beane would be interested in getting a veteran who is on a decent contract for some lower draft capital. DHop at $13M, DJ Moore at $15M, C Godwin or maybe DK Metcalf. Beane bought himself a whole day to see what he can get. A veteran plus a McConkey/Franklin/Coleman would be a home run to me. If that happened with a vet receiver would it be announced at the draft?
ndirish1978 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 13 minutes ago, HerdMentality said: This board tells me the choice is DeJean. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d6y5YK7S5pN8WgqF5t6qJSvpyQsA44hDkts8hPHDDSs/htmlview# Here's the thing about that board, it's made to be a general draft guide, it's not specific for this team. There are 2nd and 3rd rd rated receivers who may not be a fit for what we need. I would rather have McConkey + a 3rd rd value on this board paired with Bullard or Taylor-Emerson at 60 over DeJean + a 3rd rd graded player like Polk or Troy Franklin + someone else. Similary - Johnny Newton is great value, but he is a penetrated similar to Kris Jenkins, who should be there are 60. So it's really pick your poison.
nedboy7 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Too logical to pick Thejean there. It will be some weird ass pick. Like RB.
jahnyc Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Can we even make a trade for Aiyuk or Higgins if we wanted to? I thought that a player traded for would need to fit under the acquiring team's cap before it can be consummated. Would not be able to do that with Aiyuk or Higgins at this point. 1
34-78-83 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: Some believe that DeJean is a future 4-5x all-pro. If Beane views him as that I don't see how he could pass on him. Very likely is the BPA at this point as well. However there are players that fit the bill at 4 positions there right now. Newton at DT, DeJean at S/CB, McKinstrey at CB and Mitchell at WR. They could maybe be OK with taking any of those 4 and maybe be willing to move down 3 picks and take whatever one is left or pick from those 4... Beane has a ton of options right now in this spot. No doubt on the DeJean point. I imagine he is by far the best rated player available still, but I still want a WR instead if I had my way, as irrational as it may be!
LabattBlue Posted April 26 Posted April 26 1 minute ago, PayDaBill$ said: A proven receiver isn’t coming free or on the cheap. Any wr left on the board here is a big risk… So, you are okay with giving up either 33 or next years 1, plus a 5 year $150 mil contract for him?
Logic Posted April 26 Posted April 26 I'm fairly certain the Bills currently CAN'T trade for any of the WRs people are discussing, because they wouldn't fit under the salary cap. Until the June 1st money kicks in, the Bills have under $5million available. My understanding is that you can't negotiate a new contract with a player who is currently on another team. So short of the trading team eating a VERY significant portion of the cap hit, I literally don't think it's even POSSIBLE for the Bills to trade for Aiyuk or Higgins right now. 1
34-78-83 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 4 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: I have no idea why, but I get TJ Graham vibes from him 👀 WAAAAYYY more productive than Graham, no? 1
Turbo44 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 13 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: I think they like Franklin, but I have a bad feeling that he isn’t as good as the Bills apparently think he is. Analytics AND eye test says otherwise 1
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