UKBillFan Posted April 26 Posted April 26 1 minute ago, DCOrange said: I think all of those guys could supplant Hollins pretty quickly in the pecking order. None of them are going to be #1 WRs as rookies though. If we don't trade for a veteran #1 WR (which I don't really expect but it's not impossible), it seems like we're planning to go with a more balanced attack with Kincaid, Samuel, Shakir, and the rookie all being good options. My concern is good but not great. Someone said it yesterday, but the issue with the Bills is they have one elite player and a lot of good. The quality is not there outside of Josh. 1
Ralonzo Posted April 26 Posted April 26 30 minutes ago, mannc said: No thanks to a safety with our first pick. Fortunately, Beane is not dumb enough to do that. I would love Dejean to be a difference maker back there but #33, especially if Beane can gain a premium over the neutral value he obtained flipping 28 and 32, can go a long long way toward solving many of the Bills roster *and* cap issues. Slate 1 using 33, 60, 95) Dejean, Polk, Trice Potential Slate 2 using a trade down from 33 to mid 40's and picking up a mid 3rd) Franklin, Fiske, Bishop, Elliss With hopefully enough excess ammo stored to pop up in Round 4 for a faller at a position like CB or even doubling up on WR (though I'm fine with waiting till R5/6 for a Fluornoy or Bub Means to develop as a physical X competing with Shorter).
Wsam4031 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 11 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: THANK YOU. The reactions around here are so ridiculous. We clearly didn't want Worthy or we would have taken him. And if pass at 28 and take someone else, Worthy still makes it to KC. Unreal how this is puzzling for some people I think Dallas would've taken him thats why KC felt teh need to move in front of them
DCOrange Posted April 26 Posted April 26 1 minute ago, UKBillFan said: My concern is good but not great. Someone said it yesterday, but the issue with the Bills is they have one elite player and a lot of good. The quality is not there outside of Josh. That's fair, but I think the WRs remaining today have as much if not more upside than the guys that we passed on last night. Just have to hope we get the right one.
Brandon Posted April 26 Posted April 26 12 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Some believe that DeJean is a future 4-5x all-pro. If Beane views him as that I don't see how he could pass on him. Very likely is the BPA at this point as well. However there are players that fit the bill at 4 positions there right now. Newton at DT, DeJean at S/CB, McKinstrey at CB and Mitchell at WR. They could maybe be OK with taking any of those 4 and maybe be willing to move down 3 picks and take whatever one is left or pick from those 4... Beane has a ton of options right now in this spot. If they thought DeJean was that kind of player, they should have ran to the podium at 28 and never thought twice about it, especially with Baltimore setting there a couple of picks later, always willing to draft a high quality defender that drops.
Roundybout Posted April 26 Posted April 26 19 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Don’t know how much of this is true, but if so, hard pass. The attitude is from what I’ve read, the run blocking is a knock in his scoring reports, and the low effort tag came from an interview where Mitchell admitted he didn’t give 100% on some routes
Perk71 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Franklin will be their pick. Not sure it will be at 33, but will be the pick. 🤙 Go Bills!! 3
rayray808 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Washington gives us 36 and 40, we give them 33 and 60 (plus some change) Allows us to get WR and defense. Agree with people above, itʻs Troy Franklin. Interviewing Bo Nix was the tell tale sign IMO. 1 1
ndirish1978 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 I'm looking at Daniel Jeremiah's top 150 players. These guys are all on the board and ranked higher than 33 24 - Cooper DeJean 25 - Johnny Newton 27 - AD Mitchell 30 - Ladd McConkey If we take WR we could come back and take Bullard or Bishop at S if we want safety at 60 Ohorhoro or Maason Smith at DR if we want DT at 60 If we take a DeJean we're looking at these WRs around 60 Roman Wilson Ja'Lynn Polk Troy Franklin Tez Walker
CNYfan Posted April 26 Posted April 26 18 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: I would be shocked. He's about a pure of a slot receiver as there is this draft. Something the Bills really don't need more of in my opinion. Point taken. I was operating on the data that they had had Roman in and had met with him another time. 1
Turbo44 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 27 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: Do people honestly think the Bills can draft a WR#1 now? At best, from 33? Franklin, McConkey, Mitchell? If they bring any of those in, they'll be #4 at best, behind Samuel, Hollins and Shakir. If they want a number one from 2024, they need to trade for it. Not draft. Hollins really? Hollins? Come on now. He a special teams player, emergency depth piece.
Bruffalo Posted April 26 Posted April 26 12 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: My concern is good but not great. Someone said it yesterday, but the issue with the Bills is they have one elite player and a lot of good. The quality is not there outside of Josh. Diggs was a 5th round pick. Hill was a 5th round pick. Higgins was a 2nd. Metcalf was a 2nd. There's enough examples of "good" prospects becoming elite that I'm not too concerned with the top of the 2nd vs. the bottom of the first. It's a crapshoot, and doubling up could hedge our bets nicely. 4
noacls Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Give me DeJean an McConkey in the 2nd. Don't care who is drafted first. Trade up and make it happen.
mathja Posted April 26 Posted April 26 I’m now totally cool with Troy Franklin. He’d be great with Josh. I can totally imagine him out there with Shakir, Samuel & Kincaid. 2
UKBillFan Posted April 26 Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: Hollins really? Hollins? Come on now. He a special teams player, emergency depth piece. They'll come in at three then, behind Samuel and Shakir. If the Bills had kept hold of Diggs, or trade for a veteran, it'd be four which is about where I'd expect. 2 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: Diggs was a 5th round pick. Hill was a 5th round pick. Higgins was a 2nd. Metcalf was a 2nd. There's enough examples of "good" prospects becoming elite that I'm not too concerned with the top of the 2nd vs. the bottom of the first. It's a crapshoot, and doubling up could hedge our bets nicely. To get a number one the Bills needed to either to trade everything to move up the board or get a veteran. As it, they've done neither... so far. They're going into the season with a lot of decent WR pieces but no elite.
TheBrownBear Posted April 26 Posted April 26 24 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: My concern is good but not great. Someone said it yesterday, but the issue with the Bills is they have one elite player and a lot of good. The quality is not there outside of Josh. I think Kincaid can be an elite pass catching tight end, probably as early as next year. Cook is a very good back (though needs to clean up the easy drops). We need to draft two receivers between the 2nd and 3rd rounds and hope that one of them turns into, at minimum, an 80 catch, 1000 yard guy.
MiracleAtRich1393 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 6 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Hopefully they can trade down slightly and get a big deal say an early 3rd. yeah at this point seems they're comfortable with a number of receivers left, might as well just keep trading down and letting the board fall to you at WR. Take three dart throws at receiver (two tonight and another tomorrow) and fortify the rest of the roster with as many top ~150 picks as possible. Trade 6th & 7th rounders remaining this year for 5th & 6th rounders next year
Process Posted April 26 Author Posted April 26 A lot of people here value what Allbright thinks. He thinks it's Franklin.
Logic Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) If I'm being honest, I think Cooper DeJean is the Best Player Available right now. I think he has the best shot of all remaining players at coming in and being a difference maker on this team. I think he'd be a day one starter at free safety, would solidify the position for a decade, and has All Pro potential. Unfortunately, the Bills have also kind of painted themselves into a corner by desperately needing a viable WR, and I'm doubtful that they could pick DeJean at 33 and then still be able to get a WR of substance all the way down at pick 60. Now if they're confident they can package some of those later picks with pick 60 or their 3rd and get back up high enough in the 2nd to still get a Franklin or McConkey, then great. But I'm skeptical. As much as I want a WR, and as much as the Bills direly need one, there's just no way I can be upset if DeJean is the pick. I think he has the potential to be special, and to be a difference maker for a team that needs them. Edited April 26 by Logic 2
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