Yobogoya! Posted April 26 Posted April 26 1 minute ago, Low Positive said: You could put a prime Ronnie Lott on the Bills and he would make less difference than a solid #2 WR. Remember, we not only lost Diggs. We also lost Gabe Davis. Beane created a huge hole and now he has to fill it. I agree, but the draft isn’t over after pick 33. If we take Dejean here and still get someone like Franklin later in the second, thats the better combination of value based on what’s left, you have to agree with that. If we’ve waited until now, we can still add a player soon-ish. We already missed out on the top end prospects. No undoing that. Now we make the best of what’s left.
FireChans Posted April 26 Posted April 26 1 minute ago, Yobogoya! said: Id take a realistic chance at a top 10 wide receiver too. Personally I would have loved to leap frog Jax for BTJ, but well here we are. Which of the remaining prospects is more likely to be a stud receiver than Dejean is to be a stud DB? And I’m not trying to be snarky, I’m honestly curious who you value at that level? I don’t think any of them, unfortunately. We missed our window. We have to get lucky. But even still, I’ll roll on a 10% chance for a star in a Franklin over a 50% chance for a star in Cooper. 1 1
gonzo1105 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Are the Bills the ones spilling the rumors about Mitchell’s diabetes and lack of Coach ability? I’m still not 100% convinced the Bills weren’t the team leaking the Josh Allen stuff to get him to slip a bit 1
Low Positive Posted April 26 Posted April 26 13 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: I'll try and remember to say off season moving forward! Don't. I like close season better. When they are actually playing, is it called "open season?"
khlax3 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 3 minutes ago, Low Positive said: I hear you. I really do. I understand not drafting for need and picking the BPA. But what we have right now is not an NFL WR corp. They are all WR #3s at best. This is why I hated the idea of trading Diggs and replacing him in the draft because you never know how a draft board will fall and even if you get your guy there are no guarantees that you hit. The Bills simply cannot go into the year with those as our WRs. They just can't. Just curious what makes a wr a number 3 in your mind vs a number 1 or 2? Is it stats, size, speed? I keep seeing people say we have a bunch of number 3 wr and I’m generally curious how they are classifying them. I know Kincaid is a TE but he will likely have 85-90 catches for 1000 yards if he was a wr would you consider him a number 1?
Yobogoya! Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Just now, FireChans said: I don’t think any of them, unfortunately. We missed our window. We have to get lucky. But even still, I’ll roll on a 10% chance for a star in a Franklin over a 50% chance for a star in Cooper. I mean that’s just cutting off your nose to spite your face. This team needs top shelf talent, man. We need all pro level players that are t Josh Allen. I’ll take it at any position, even punter (tho not at this draft pick, obviously lol) 1
Warcodered Posted April 26 Posted April 26 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I would be very happy with Franklin at #33. I've cooled on him a bit since he was my first draft crush, and we would still need to draft a big bodied guy to complete the room, but he has high upside traits that really excite me. Definitely a guy that could develop even more, fill out his frame more with NFL weight training and he's young enough he might even grow a little bit more. 1
mannc Posted April 26 Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said: I agree, but the draft isn’t over after pick 33. If we take Dejean here and still get someone like Franklin later in the second, thats the better combination of value based on what’s left, you have to agree with that. If we’ve waited until now, we can still add a player soon-ish. We already missed out on the top end prospects. No undoing that. Now we make the best of what’s left. No thanks to a safety with our first pick. Fortunately, Beane is not dumb enough to do that.
UKBillFan Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Just now, Low Positive said: Don't. I like close season better. When they are actually playing, is it called "open season?" No. But I'm not sure it's called on season either? 😄
glazeduck Posted April 26 Posted April 26 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: Definitely a guy that could develop even more, fill out his frame more with NFL weight training and he's young enough he might even grow a little bit more. I’ve said it before on here, he’s a saner Antonio Brown
Roundybout Posted April 26 Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Definitely a guy that could develop even more, fill out his frame more with NFL weight training and he's young enough he might even grow a little bit more. I didn’t realize that Joe Brady recruited him out of high school. That would make me feel a little better 1
Bruffalo Posted April 26 Posted April 26 If the Bills come out of tonight with Dejean and two of either Franklin/Mitchell/McConkey/Polk/Coleman then you have to just say hats off to Beane. That would be a master class in drafting. 3 4
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 26 Posted April 26 6 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Definitely a guy that could develop even more, fill out his frame more with NFL weight training and he's young enough he might even grow a little bit more. Yup, like what we hoped Robert Foster would become.
Alphadawg7 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 50 minutes ago, BananaB said: Don’t we have two safeties with starting experience on the roster? Its not a difficult position to find capable players. Jmo. Bills need is at WR and if they keep moving back at some point they will regret it. Can’t keep neglecting this position Safety has been a vital part of McDs defense. So while we do have 2 guys who could start, they are making anyone shake in their boots either and are a downgrade to what we had for the past 6 years. 1
FireChans Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said: I mean that’s just cutting off your nose to spite your face. This team needs top shelf talent, man. We need all pro level players that are t Josh Allen. I’ll take it at any position, even punter (tho not at this draft pick, obviously lol) No it’s accepting the reality of the NFL. WR’s are getting paid more and more because they are valuable. Their market is rapidly expanding. The safety market is not. I’m tired of investing on defense. McD can coach up the Benford’s of the world and be all right. Let’s get some offensive stars. Edited April 26 by FireChans 2
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Just now, Alphadawg7 said: Safety has been a vital part of McDs defense. So while we do have 2 guys who could start, they are making anyone shake in their boots either and are a downgrade to what we had for the past 6 years. Agreed. I honestly think there are a few safeties who would beat out Edwards or Rapp. 1
Alphadawg7 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) 3 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Agreed. I honestly think there are a few safeties who would beat out Edwards or Rapp. Yeah, there are several that would at least compete to start year 1. And if they wanted to lean on the Vets more and let one of them learn they at least bring much needed depth as we have no one behind those 2 that would be good options if one went down. Edited April 26 by Alphadawg7
hondo in seattle Posted April 26 Posted April 26 43 minutes ago, SCBills said: People have not gone crazy. It's obvious. We have Curtis Samuel, Khalil Shakir and Mack Hollins. That's really it. Even with all the defensive injuries last year, we beat KC in the playoffs if we weren't down to a checked-out Diggs and Trent Sherfield as our two weapons spazzing out all game while Shakir was the only one doing anything. WR matters so, sooo much more than a starting Safety or some rotational DL. Nobody has gone crazy. We've seen this team neglect WR year in/year out, and we've now seen it bite us when it matters most two years in a row. I agree we badly need a WR. But maybe Beane isn't enamored with the remaining WRs and thinks they're more Mack Hollins than Andre Reed. We can get a JAG later on in the draft, or cheaply in free agency, if that's what we're down to. I'd love to see Beane's board and how he's got guys rated. But I'd rather get a superstar safety or DL than a jag receiver if that's what's left. 1
Maynard Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Get the pitchforks ready. Think we go Dejean mustard. McD got a ***** in his pants already.
BullBuchanan Posted April 26 Posted April 26 I'm looking to trade down if we get a rich offer and package some of our day 3 picks to get a top 120 pick. 1 1
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