The Bills are on the clock: Pick 33

[Dillenger4]

4 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

I could be convinced to send them Pick 60 for Aiyuk.  Definitely not 33, let alone both. 

 

He's going to command 30M per year.  No way I'm trading away heavy pick premium for the right to pay a dude all that. 

Word is SF wants draft capital and will eat some $y.

[Brandon]

9 minutes ago, Process said:

This makes a lot of sense. Hard to see them going WR at 33 but hope I'm wrong. 

 

Trade down also seems very likely.

 

Could be,  but DeJean is kind of a rare traits type.   I'm not sure they would have risked losing him in a trade down if he was definitely their guy.  

[Livinginthepast]

[Alphadawg7]

15 minutes ago, SWATeam said:

Anyone think one of these two wrestling centers- Powers-Johnson and Frazier- might be in play?

 

I think it's interior OL, DeJean, or another trade back.

 

Don't forget about Newton too...he could be an option here as well.  But I do agree, I think if I had to guess who is BPA right now at this pick on Beane's board it is probably not a WR given the players who are still on the board.  Maybe Mitchell, McConkey, or Franklin could be, or at least close...just the value on a couple of these other guys seems pretty high right now.  

 

[No_Matter_What]

13 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

why would Mitchell be off the board?

Just my feeling. Medical concerns and red flag regarding his effort.

 

Also, if he was on our board, I believe he'd be our pick at 28. Franklin/Coleman/McConkey could be had later thus the trade down.

[ngbills]

10 hours ago, LabattBlue said:

Very puzzling to give up the 5th year of player control for what?

Beane knows this trend in WR pay is going to reverse by then because he is a wizard.  

[Andrew Son]

Just now, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Don't forget about Newton too...he could be an option here as well.  But I do agree, I think if I had to guess who is BPA right now at this pick on Beane's board it is probably not a WR given the players who are still on the board.  Maybe Mitchell, McConkey, or Franklin could be, or at least close...just the value on a couple of these other guys seems pretty high right now.  

 

Newton is intriguing.  I like Fiske and Jenkins too, maybe one (obviously not Newton) might last to 60

 

[Lagoon Blues]

18 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

why would Mitchell be off the board?

Because people believe 2 "unnamed scouts" who trashed him.

[BananaB]

57 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Are people hating on Cooper DeJean because they don’t want a defensive player? Even if he is clearly the best available in a pretty thin safety class?

Don’t we have two safeties with starting experience on the roster? Its  not a difficult position to find capable players. Jmo. Bills need is at WR and if they keep moving back at some point they will regret it. Can’t keep neglecting this position

[Yobogoya!]

23 minutes ago, Process said:

This makes a lot of sense. Hard to see them going WR at 33 but hope I'm wrong. 

 

Trade down also seems very likely.

I feel like people have gone a little crazy all off-season honing in on WR. Yes that’s an obvious needs, but we need a lot of help at several positions, including DB. 
 

Just take the best player. We need top shelf players more than anything else. If Dejean can perform at an elite level in the McD system, I’d take that over the 7th or 8th best WR prospect. 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

25 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:

He played one snap at safety last year, all the rest at CB. Not saying he can't play safety, but Iowa just didn't use him as one

I think he played 1 snap at deep safety, 23 in the box safety (91 the year prior) and the majority of the rest at outside CB.

 

Edited April 26 by TheyCallMeAndy

[hondo in seattle]

30 minutes ago, Yantha said:

I'm serious when I say I hope we go with FS Cooper DeJean.  Read on before the barf emoji....  lol

 

Looking at the board, he's clearly the BPA at a position of need.  What a slip.  He is Eric Weddle 2.0, and we lost both our star safeties without properly replacing them....  FS is a very high need.

 

Hoping to TRADE UP from 60 to grab one of the following WRs:

Adonai Mitchell

Ja'Lynn Polk

 

Failing that, there are plenty of options to fill the role we need:

Jalen McMillan

Jermaine Burton

Brenden Rice (son of Rice... I mean c'mon...)

Javon Baker

Luke McCaffrey (field stretcher)

 

DO 

NOT 

PANIC

 

I once listened to an interview with a successful GM - I think it was Ron Wolf.  He said that he considered a draft decent if he got one Pro Bowler out of it and it didn't matter if the guy came from the 4th round and the 1st rounder was a bust.  A really good draft netted him two Pro Bowlers.  That's how he rated his drafts.  

 

He explained that most players fill roles (i.e., they're JAGS).   To win a SB, you needed players who were difference-makers.  

 

He said that it's better to get a difference-maker at a position you may not need than a role-player at a position where you do have a need.  

 

I rarely watch college football and am no talent scout.  But if DeJean is truly a difference-maker when the WRs left are mediocre role-players, then I'm all for the pick. 

  

[ndirish1978]

7 minutes ago, Lagoon Blues said:

Because people believe 2 "unnamed scouts" who trashed him.

 

Taking plays off isn't the unnamed scouts though, it's right there on tape.

[BuffaloBill]

10 hours ago, Old Coot said:

Why would the Panthers trade to jump ahead of the Bills? Presumably they were afraid the Bills would take their guy Legette.

 

 

But the Bills likely found out who Carolina would take with the pick before the trade.  To me it seems the Bills did not want Legette and certainly not that high.

[Roundybout]

 

[UKBillFan]

19 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

I could be convinced to send them Pick 60 for Aiyuk.  Definitely not 33, let alone both. 

 

He's going to command 30M per year.  No way I'm trading away heavy pick premium for the right to pay a dude all that. 

 

The Bills could send them 33 or 60 plus a second from 2025 - it'd still leave them with a pick in round two next year. If the 49ers are happy to eat some of his contract as well...

 

The more time goes on the more I think Diggs' trade was down to desperation to get him out of the building rather than a carefully planned transition. But I imagine, to others, that was obvious from the start.

[Ralonzo]

42 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:

I'd be worried That Franklin doesnt last to 47 and Baker doesn't last to 95

 

Worried sure, but there'd have to be a plan B/C/D in place. But at some point, not every team can draft every receiver every round. If you have multiple paths to complement your roster with the right receiver types - would Franklin & Baker be so much preferable to say, Coleman and McCaffrey, or hell even Tez Walker and Bub Means. Maybe yes, maybe the value isn't there, maybe the value needs to be spent elsewhere and make do with what you can get.

 

A lot of this exercise centers around who's projected to be available in that mock. So far, Brugler has been decent in projecting value - with the main outliers being Nix and the 3 receivers selected at the end of R1, all of whom had round 2 or round 3 grades. If Beane's grades track to that, he absolutely made the right call to let other teams reach and give you their surplus value. The amount that the Bills are getting killed by the media doesn't surprise me though.

[SCBills]

4 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said:

I feel like people have gone a little crazy all off-season honing in on WR. Yes that’s an obvious needs, but we need a lot of help at several positions, including DB. 
 

Just take the best player. We need top shelf players more than anything else. If Dejean can perform at an elite level in the McD system, I’d take that over the 7th or 8th best WR prospect. 

 

People have not gone crazy.  It's obvious.

 

We have Curtis Samuel, Khalil Shakir and Mack Hollins.  That's really it. 

 

Even with all the defensive injuries last year, we beat KC in the playoffs if we weren't down to a checked-out Diggs and Trent Sherfield as our two weapons spazzing out all game while Shakir was the only one doing anything.  

 

WR matters so, sooo much more than a starting Safety or some rotational DL.  

 

Nobody has gone crazy.  We've seen this team neglect WR year in/year out, and we've now seen it bite us when it matters most two years in a row. 

[Bruffalo]

1 minute ago, UKBillFan said:

 

The Bills could send them 33 or 60 plus a second from 2025 - it'd still leave them with a pick in round two next year. If the 49ers are happy to eat some of his contract as well...

 

The more time goes on the more I think Diggs' trade was down to desperation to get him out of the building rather than a carefully planned transition. But I imagine, to others, that was obvious from the start.

That's way too much to give up. I'm fine with giving up 60 this year and I could be talked into a 2-3rd next year, but they shouldn't give up pick 33. 

[That's No Moon]

12 minutes ago, Lagoon Blues said:

Because people believe 2 "unnamed scouts" who trashed him.

And also because he was relatively unproductive over 3 years at two different, very successful, college programs.  He had one good year. He's far from a slam dunk choice.