mannc Posted April 26 Posted April 26 1 minute ago, OldTimer1960 said: I think you’re right and I will be very disappointed if that’s where they go. About Franklin or Aiyuk, or both?
mjt328 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Not sure why people are wanting ANOTHER slot receiver in Ladd McConkey? The best receiver on our team is Khalil Shakir, who was a slot receiver last year. We added Curtis Samuel, who has mostly played slot receiver over the last few years. Our next best receiving options are Tight Ends. It's not always about getting the most talented guy. You need to have some variety on the team, so you can attack all parts of the field. The Bills have pretty much nobody on the team who can challenge defenses on the outside or down the field. 1
Back2Buff Posted April 26 Posted April 26 It's 100% Cooper. You don't get rid of the 5th year option unless it will end up being useless because Safeties are paid less than what the 5th year option would be. 1 1 1
BarleyNY Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Just now, Back2Buff said: It's 100% Cooper. You don't get rid of the 5th year option unless it will end up being useless because Safeties are paid less than what the 5th year option would be. 5th year options are calculated for each position using salaries at that position.
skibum Posted April 26 Posted April 26 What I love most about this trade-down is that Beane now holds the highest remaining pick, and he has a whole, long day to field offers for it. There are still a lot of great players left, and a lot of teams will be looking to trade with the Bills to make sure they get their guy. I think there is a ton of value in that alone, and combined with the added mid-round picks, I think Beane did well on value considering the depth of players available outside the top 15. The big story to watch down the road will be if Xavier Worthy becomes the next great Chief that the Bills basically handed them. 1
<bills4life> Posted April 26 Posted April 26 7 hours ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: The McDonkey dude isn't a difference-maker though. If he's the pick, we still need serious help at WR. Add in shakir Samuel’s Kincaid, cook and Knox does he really need to be though. Add in Troy Franklin later in the draft and I am 100 percent thrilled with our receiving room as a whole.
<bills4life> Posted April 26 Posted April 26 14 minutes ago, mjt328 said: Not sure why people are wanting ANOTHER slot receiver in Ladd McConkey? But that’s just it. 70 percent of ladds work was not from the slot. 2
Kirby Jackson Posted April 26 Posted April 26 13 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: It's 100% Cooper. You don't get rid of the 5th year option unless it will end up being useless because Safeties are paid less than what the 5th year option would be. That’s an interesting take. 🍻
gflande1 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 I feel like the Bills are playing 3D chess…while the other teams are banging hot chicks. Wait till they see how good we are at chess 1 4 1
OldTimer1960 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 19 minutes ago, mannc said: About Franklin or Aiyuk, or both? Franklin doesn’t interest me early in round 2. I’m not super keen on trading for an expensive vet like Aiyuk, but at least he isn’t super old - don’t know how they fit him under the cap this year though.
Back2Buff Posted April 26 Posted April 26 13 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: 5th year options are calculated for each position using salaries at that position. There is less variance between safety positions, meaning they don't have the mega highs to bring up the avg. So essentially, the 5th year option is probably going to be more than what you would give a safety, unless the Safety will be the top 2 paid in the entire NFL. So what I mean, right now a safety with 2 pro bowls from the 2021 draft that meets the playing time would be getting 17.12 million. A WR on the other hand would be getting 21.82 million. A WR with 2 pro bowls will get more like 31-32 million a year. So you would save close to 10 million on the 5th year option. Derwin James is the top paid safety at 19 million. The 5th year option is saving you less than 2 million. 2025 5th Years Highest Paid Safeties 2
gflande1 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 This is going to be a long day. Can’t wait to see how it unfolds, so many more moves to make. I’m pissing out my ass in anticipation….well that and undercooked chicken wings. 1
H2o Posted April 26 Posted April 26 It's amazing how the draft is "over" for us now and we've basically lost the offseason after the 1st Round.
OldTimer1960 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 5 minutes ago, Kaenon said: Anyone but Ladd please. McConkey is the best receiver left, in my opinion. I think if they were going to take Mitchell, they would have done so already. I understand that McConkey isn’t an X, but if it isn’t him it’s another position in my opinion.
BarleyNY Posted April 26 Posted April 26 17 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: There is less variance between safety positions, meaning they don't have the mega highs to bring up the avg. So essentially, the 5th year option is probably going to be more than what you would give a safety, unless the Safety will be the top 2 paid in the entire NFL. So what I mean, right now a safety with 2 pro bowls from the 2021 draft that meets the playing time would be getting 17.12 million. A WR on the other hand would be getting 21.82 million. A WR with 2 pro bowls will get more like 31-32 million a year. So you would save close to 10 million on the 5th year option. Derwin James is the top paid safety at 19 million. The 5th year option is saving you less than 2 million. 2025 5th Years Highest Paid Safeties That’s logical. Obviously things can change substantially over the next four years, but I see your point. The more global concern is, of course, that using a high pick for a safety rather than a WR is a poor use of resources. Your numbers illustrate the relatively massive amount of money saved on a quality WR vs safety playing on rookie deals.
gonzo1105 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 I think the Bills are going to move down again. Listening to Beane in his presser he made mention of getting starters or key contributors and 95 gives them more of a chance to achieve that. I think he’s finding a way to get more guys in the top 100 considering this draft supposedly falls off a cliff after 120-130 players. I don’t think they go crazy but I can see them moving into the late 30s giving up one of their 5ths and asking for a 3rd back
Dr. Who Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, mjt328 said: Not sure why people are wanting ANOTHER slot receiver in Ladd McConkey? The best receiver on our team is Khalil Shakir, who was a slot receiver last year. We added Curtis Samuel, who has mostly played slot receiver over the last few years. Our next best receiving options are Tight Ends. It's not always about getting the most talented guy. You need to have some variety on the team, so you can attack all parts of the field. The Bills have pretty much nobody on the team who can challenge defenses on the outside or down the field. Very tired of this take. McConkey is not a slot receiver. He took 80% of his snaps on the outside. He's a flanker, movement Z whatever term you like. They need to get 2 WRs. One of them should be an X, but there absolutely is room for McConkey, who is an out of the box volume receiver year one. Edited April 26 by Dr. Who 1 1 2
SoCal Deek Posted April 26 Posted April 26 19 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: McConkey is the best receiver left, in my opinion. I think if they were going to take Mitchell, they would have done so already. I understand that McConkey isn’t an X, but if it isn’t him it’s another position in my opinion. Why would they have done so already? He’s still there now. The goal of the draft isn’t to take your guy as early as possible. The goal is to take him as LATE as possible. 1
nedboy7 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 I don’t know. Am I willing to get a WR “without VALUE “ when I can stockpile 3rd rounders? I mean checkers me chess.
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