Kirby Jackson Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Surprised that so few people are mentioning Johnny Newton here. He is likely in the conversation for BPA & is at a position the Bills need (at least long term). Either way, I don’t think that the Bills pick at 33. 2
Turbo44 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 They do like Franklin - met with him more than anyone and he has the fewest q’s of any of the remaining wr’s. Walker is an analytics disaster - know way in the world they draft him. I see another small trade then Buffalo taking Mitchell, Ladd or Franklin. Coleman is the “Benjamin” type of wr they have been avoiding. No separation guy
NeverOutNick Posted April 26 Posted April 26 6 minutes ago, H2o said: They won't move again from #33 and the pick is going to be Troy Franklin. Write it down. Pretty sure he has been "their guy" throughout this entire process. They grabbed some extra picks along the way and moved back just enough where they feel comfortable. If that’s true I’ll be happy but knowing Beane there’s going to be another trade he loves and he’ll take the chance to move back one last time and then hopefully still get Franklin or even better AD. I like what Beane is doing. Round 2-4 is a lot of WR value but I do think AD and Franklin are a different level to the next tier of strictly #2 WRs
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Just now, NeverOutNick said: If that’s true I’ll be happy but knowing Beane there’s going to be another trade he loves and he’ll take the chance to move back one last time and then hopefully still get Franklin or even better AD. I like what Beane is doing. Round 2-4 is a lot of WR value but I do think AD and Franklin are a different level to the next tier of strictly #2 WRs Rounds 2/3 is the sweet spot in this draft. I’m hoping he can get a real nice deal for 33 to not move far back and get another 3rd 1
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) 14 minutes ago, H2o said: They won't move again from #33 and the pick is going to be Troy Franklin. Write it down. Pretty sure he has been "their guy" throughout this entire process. They grabbed some extra picks along the way and moved back just enough where they feel comfortable. If he was truly "their guy" - they wouldn't have risked someone else taking him by trading out of 28 and 32. The fact that they moved down twice and allowed teams that needed WR's to come up and get their guys said to me that they viewed a lot of different WR's after the first 4 fairly evenly and didn't have a "guy". Edited April 26 by BillsFanForever19 2 1
H2o Posted April 26 Posted April 26 1 minute ago, NeverOutNick said: If that’s true I’ll be happy but knowing Beane there’s going to be another trade he loves and he’ll take the chance to move back one last time and then hopefully still get Franklin or even better AD. I like what Beane is doing. Round 2-4 is a lot of WR value but I do think AD and Franklin are a different level to the next tier of strictly #2 WRs At some point, you just have to get your guy before someone else does. I think they stand pat and take Franklin. 1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said: If he was truly "their guy" - they wouldn't have risked someone else taking him by trading out of 28 and 32. The fact that they moved down twice and allowed teams that needed WR's to come up and get their guys said to me that they viewed a lot of different WR's after the first 4 fairly evenly and didn't have a "guy". We'll see. But if I were a betting man, then I would put $$$ on Franklin being #33.
NeverOutNick Posted April 26 Posted April 26 1 minute ago, H2o said: At some point, you just have to get your guy before someone else does. I think they stand pat and take Franklin. The fact that they moved back again from 32 to 33 means they have 2-3 players with very similar grades that they’d feel comfortable taking and are willing to make small moves back just in case they lose one but both both. I’m hoping it’s Franklin and AD with those grades 1 1
LabattBlue Posted April 26 Posted April 26 I would take McConkey at 33, and then move up from 60 to try and get Mitchell, Polk, Franklin or Coleman. What do I expect will happen…DeJean. 😞 1 1
NoSaint Posted April 26 Posted April 26 6 hours ago, Big Turk said: He is probably fielding calls from half the teams about pick 33 tomorrow...he might be able to get a better deal than what he got for 32. I would hope he could get a better deal than the Carolina trade
LabattBlue Posted April 26 Posted April 26 To move down 5 spots, unless a team is desperate, the return would be a mid 4th round pick.
BuffaloRebound Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) 3 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I would hope he could get a better deal than the Carolina trade I actually think that trade was to buy time to either trade for a vet WR or trade back again from 33. Now that the 49ers got who they wanted, they might be ready to move Aiyuk or deebo. Edited April 26 by BuffaloRebound
mannc Posted April 26 Posted April 26 7 hours ago, HappyDays said: The dream is still very much alive. Draft two of these WRs in R2, likely with a medium trade up from #60: Coleman Franklin Mitchell McConkey Polk BPA at #95, perhaps with a small trade up to get a true 3rd round graded player. I think it’s Franklin…no idea after that. With the Niners drafting a WR at 31, does that put Aiyuk in play now, probably in exchange for 33?
Roundybout Posted April 26 Posted April 26 5 hours ago, Kenosha2Buffalo said: Coleman needs to be the guy. He’s garbage. 2
Niagara Dude Posted April 26 Posted April 26 7 hours ago, Virgil said: We spent a lot of time with DeJean, Franklin and Walker pre-draft. I think tomorrow, we either go DeJean and Walker, or Franklin and ?? No thanks on Dejean, that would be a total draft screw up. He is not worth more then a 3rd or 4th rounder 1 1 1 1
mannc Posted April 26 Posted April 26 38 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said: The fact that they moved back again from 32 to 33 means they have 2-3 players with very similar grades that they’d feel comfortable taking and are willing to make small moves back just in case they lose one but both both. I’m hoping it’s Franklin and AD with those grades It tells me it’s likely another trade at 33. Getting the first pick of round 2 gives you almost 24 hours to make a deal, instead of 10 minutes. 1
OldTimer1960 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 7 hours ago, Virgil said: We spent a lot of time with DeJean, Franklin and Walker pre-draft. I think tomorrow, we either go DeJean and Walker, or Franklin and ?? Please not Franklin unless it’s late round 2. 1
SectionC3 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 3 minutes ago, mannc said: It tells me it’s likely another trade at 33. Getting the first pick of round 2 gives you almost 24 hours to make a deal, instead of 10 minutes. I don't doubt that Beane is working to see what existing player he can get for that pick. The problem we have is the cap, but maybe a June 1 designation in any such transaction makes that piece a bit easier.
OldTimer1960 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 8 minutes ago, mannc said: I think it’s Franklin…no idea after that. With the Niners drafting a WR at 31, does that put Aiyuk in play now, probably in exchange for 33? I think you’re right and I will be very disappointed if that’s where they go. 1
Fixxxer Posted April 26 Posted April 26 57 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Surprised that so few people are mentioning Johnny Newton here. He is likely in the conversation for BPA & is at a position the Bills need (at least long term). Either way, I don’t think that the Bills pick at 33. I agree, I would also consider drafting a true OC to replace Morse. I think Powers-Johnson could be a possibility at #33, I don't like the prospect of moving McGovern to C. 1 1
BarleyNY Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) 7 hours ago, MWK said: It is almost certainly Dejean. McDermott runs this team. Very possibly. But over Newton? You know how he loves DL. But then again I guess we could use someone to cover Worthy now. Edited April 26 by BarleyNY
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