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  On 4/26/2024 at 3:34 PM, SoonerBillsFan said:

You draft safetys late, not at #33 when you NEED a WR.

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Ahh yes, who can forget the late round value of Damar Hamlin, Cam Lewis, Duke Williams, Jonathan Meeks and Da,Norris Seacry.

 

Safety is luxury pick right until the moment your CBs suddenly have zero help.

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  On 4/26/2024 at 4:17 PM, TheBrownBear said:

I think Kincaid can be an elite pass catching tight end, probably as early as next year.  Cook is a very good back (though needs to clean up the easy drops).  We need to draft two receivers between the 2nd and 3rd rounds and hope that one of them turns into, at minimum, an 80 catch, 1000 yard guy.

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I wonder if Kincaid and Shakir need another year but they definitely have promise.

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  On 4/26/2024 at 3:14 PM, Alphadawg7 said:


Safety has been a vital part of McDs defense.  So while we do have 2 guys who could start, they are making anyone shake in their boots either and are a downgrade to what we had for the past 6 years.  

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Our safety play has not been top notch for two years now. To be honest, last year when Poyer was out the D looked better with Rapp in. It’s not hindering our D. Yeah we had great play out of Poyer and Hyde for a long time but it still led to 13 seconds when the game was on the line. Still blew it in OT against Houston. It should not be #1 priority with the huge hole we have at WR. 

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  On 4/26/2024 at 4:31 PM, Cheektowaga Chad said:

If it's wr at 33 why trade down?

 

3 wr's went in-between when you started trading down and your pick

 

Why risk having your guy or position get taken

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If it’s WR then they had a group of WR with same/ similar grades  ( not first round ) and knew they’d be happy with any of them. Gained picks in the process = win. 

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  On 4/26/2024 at 4:31 PM, Cheektowaga Chad said:

If it's wr at 33 why trade down?

 

3 wr's went in-between when you started trading down and your pick

 

Why risk having your guy or position get taken

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if they had worthy, Legette, Mitchell, McConkey, Franklin, Coleman, etc all rated relatively the same, trade down, get more assets and take whom you like best of the remaining at 33, or further trade down to 36 and do the same. i think there's a >50% chance they trade down again tol the gih 30s 'cuz I think they like Franklin and think they can get him at around 40

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  On 4/26/2024 at 4:39 PM, Turbo44 said:

if they had worthy, Legette, Mitchell, McConkey, Franklin, Coleman, etc all rated relatively the same, trade down, get more assets and take whom you like best of the remaining at 33, or further trade down to 36 and do the same. i think there's a >50% chance they trade down again tol the gih 30s 'cuz I think they like Franklin and think they can get him at around 40

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  On 4/26/2024 at 4:38 PM, Boatdrinks said:

If it’s WR then they had a group of WR with same/ similar grades  ( not first round ) and knew they’d be happy with any of them. Gained picks in the process = win. 

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Even if they are graded the same wouldn't you want the one you liked personally best? Even if you are picking based on personality at that point, make sure you grab the guy that's gonna fit in with the team

 

I do agree we could see more trade downs from the bills 

 

But if the bills make the pick at 33, I think it will be a non wr position. I'd go cb or center personally - a lot of people connected the bills meeting bo nix at the combine to Franklin, but there is a center bo nix would also have played with available 

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  On 4/26/2024 at 4:42 PM, Cheektowaga Chad said:

 

Even if they are graded the same wouldn't you want the one you liked personally best? Even if you are picking based on personality at that point, make sure you grab the guy that's gonna fit in with the team

 

I do agree we could see more trade downs from the bills 

 

But if the bills make the pick at 33, I think it will be a non wr position. I'd go cb or center personally 

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If they were only drafting a WR in this draft then maybe. You’re not and have to look at the big picture of the team and entire draft. If they’re similarly graded with no red flags then you get value and move down. Personally I thought picking at 28 was less likely than moving up / down. Just figured there wouldn’t be a player they loved left on the board by then. 

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  On 4/26/2024 at 4:39 PM, Turbo44 said:

if they had worthy, Legette, Mitchell, McConkey, Franklin, Coleman, etc all rated relatively the same, trade down, get more assets and take whom you like best of the remaining at 33, or further trade down to 36 and do the same. i think there's a >50% chance they trade down again tol the gih 30s 'cuz I think they like Franklin and think they can get him at around 40

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There’s starting to be a run on receivers though. I mean Pearsall in the first round? 
 

If you want Franklin then take him at 33. 

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  On 4/26/2024 at 4:38 PM, BananaB said:

Our safety play has not been top notch for two years now. To be honest, last year when Poyer was out the D looked better with Rapp in. It’s not hindering our D. Yeah we had great play out of Poyer and Hyde for a long time but it still led to 13 seconds when the game was on the line. Still blew it in OT against Houston. It should not be #1 priority with the huge hole we have at WR. 

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Reaching for need is a poor way to manage a draft.  Take the talent.  If the talent is the WR, take him.  If the talent is DeJean, Newton, JPJ, etc then take the talent or move back and let someone else take talent and still get your WR.  There are a lot of WR's here still for us, and ones I had graded higher than 3 of the WR's that already came off the board.  

 

That is how I would handle it and its what I suspect Beane will do too.  

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Posted
  On 4/26/2024 at 10:49 AM, LabattBlue said:

I would take McConkey at 33, and then move up from 60 to try and get Mitchell, Polk, Franklin or Coleman. 
 

What do I expect will happen…DeJean. 
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I’ve changed my mind.   If the Bills can end up(via draft maneuvering) with two out of McConkey/Polk/Franklin, they would be in much better shape in the WR room. 

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  On 4/26/2024 at 4:56 PM, Dillenger4 said:

Higgins or Aiyouk

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I would curb your expectations...Beane made it pretty clear this isn't a move he thinks we need like we did when we traded for Diggs.  I think this is less likely than the thought we would trade a bounty to move up in the draft.  

 

Nothing is off the table or impossible, just saying, this was always unlikely based on everything Beane has said, our cap situation, etc.  And then the 3 WR contracts to the 2 Eagles WR and St. Brown happened making this even more unlikely as the price on these guys contracts will be even higher now.  

 

So just wouldn't get your hopes up even though I wouldn't 100% rule it out either as you never know, just very unlikely.  

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Posted
  On 4/26/2024 at 3:57 PM, Roundybout said:


The attitude is from what I’ve read, the run blocking is a knock in his scoring reports, and the low effort tag came from an interview where Mitchell admitted he didn’t give 100% on some routes 

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I’m sold…hard pass on Mitchell(at least on Day 2).  

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