Rd 2, Pick 33: WR Keon Coleman, Florida State

[BillsfaninChicago]

I will reserve judgment. Every now and again the Josh Allen draft day thread gets bumped and reminds me why I should not make snap decisions on our picks.

Edited April 26 by BillsfaninChicago

[ToGoGo]

Just now, sven233 said:

As I mentioned earlier, he's slow and doesn't separate. Two traits you just love to see in a WR.  But, hey, welcome to Buffalo.

Not thrilled at all here.  Not saying he can't be good, but when your claim to fame is winning jump balls, it's hard to get excited.  

I will say that it's not all bad. He has elite body control.  He's a big guy that is physical and can get off press.  While he is not a good route runner, and he is slow for a WR, he uses his big frame well using his body to shield off defenders and high point the ball.  Elite hands and catches the ball well.  

 

That said, I had several WRs rated ahead of him, some of whom are still on the board.  But hey......it's their guy and I expect him to make some great plays for us here and there.  I just don't feel he is a dominant player that teams will fear playing at least right away.

He seems like he’s built like a tank. WR more in the Shakir mold than a speedster. 
 

Hoping we trade up for Franklin. 

[4merper4mer]

2 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

Anytime 👍

Appreciate it.  I also learn stuff on YouTube.  Did you know this guy Daniel Negraunu always knows the other guy’s hand when he plays poker?

[MasterStrategist]

9 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I really don't know WTH is going on with Beane.  2 trade downs to get a guy that most likely he could have gotten later.  

 

My brother a Vikings fan is asking me WTH?? And I got no answer. 

No offense but you can tell him to F off.

 

Plenty of things for Vikings to worry about, starting with JJ Mccarthy...thats a WTF moment.

[Pre1236]

 

[Beck Water]

13 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said:

“Coleman might lack the athletic traits to be a well-rounded WR2. Instead, keep an eye on him as a big slot receiver who can be a red-zone specialist.” NFL.com

 

vomit. 
 

slower Gabe with slightly better hands? Beane being to clever by half me thinks. 

 

Pro Tip: don't pay attention to Zierlein's round or NFL outcome predictions.  They are all over the place.

Do pay attention to his strengths and weakness listings.  They are what I nod when I come back to.

Example:  Matt Milano was assessed as an "average backup or special teamer" with an overall 5.9 grade.  But his strengths listing had this to say:

"Wonderfully aggressive. Heat-seeking missile who looks for contact. Form tackler looking to strike, lift, and bury. Former safety with disciplined vision and above-average instincts. Can get home as blitzer. Reacts quickly to play-action screen passes and reverses. Good straight-line speed and revved motor for extended tackle range. Has some coverage ability in space. Durable two-year starter playing more than 94 percent of his team's defensive snaps. Accelerates through contact. Speed and toughness creates potential opportunities at multiple linebacker spots."  [That's my little Guido Torpedo]

So Zierlein analysis of Coleman's strengths:

"Above-the-rim artist with circus catches resembling a scene from the tents of Cirque du Soleil. Coleman has excellent size and ball skills. He’s not sudden and doesn’t have great speed, so beating press and creating breathing room against tight man coverages will depend on his ability to improve as a route-runner. The former star basketball player has a rebounder’s blend of extension and timing to give jump-ball defenders the blues. He’s big and strong with soft hands"

 

I've been complaining that our WR get shoved off their routes by physical coverage, that we seldom see the 'circus catch' from them, that our guys give us 'focus drops' at key situations.  Sounds as though Beane set out to change that, and feels as though for a basketball player, the release moves can be coached up.

 

The interesting thing is that Beane feels he excels against press coverage.  Hmmm.
 

Edited April 26 by Beck Water

[The Frankish Reich]

8 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said:

Great player but more similar to Shakir 

I have to assume Beane/McD really, really like what they saw from Shakir late last season (what's not to like?) and they're confident that he fills that role, which now becomes the Diggs role. So they went for another Gabe. Look, it makes sense to me. Other than Harrison I don't think there was a can't miss pro bowler type in the draft. So they got one of the B grade runners up.

[Warriorspikes51]

In all fairness I wanted Josh Rosen instead of Josh Allen…..

 

hopefully this turns out the same way for us

[Bad Things]

Welcome to the Bills, Keon!

 

Lets go Buffalo!

(I don't follow college football, so will trust the Bills staff on this one.)

[gonzo1105]

Just now, Dr. Who said:

Do you think he can play on the boundary and win? The players with his profile that have had success did so out of the slot.

How are they going to make that work and keep Kincaid on the field?

Yes I think he can play outside and be a very good # 2 WR in the NFL. To me he’s very Keenan Allen like. You put him all over the place you don’t just line him up and let him go. He’s going to win in the intermediate in the NFL. He’s not a take the top off a defense guy but he’ll live over the middle at 12-15 yards in the NFL with Dig Routes. 
 

The Bills were not coming out of this draft with a # 1 WR. I have said 50 receptions and 700 yards should be the expectation for a rookie as I believe Kincaid becomes the focal point 

[DJB]

I crapped on this guy so much pre draft he was the only WR I didn’t want. I compared him to Gabe Davis all the time 
 

He can’t separate at all , he’s slow and I’m flabbergasted by this pick . 
 

It’s a bad pick in my mind 

Edited April 26 by DJB

[ProcessImproverMan]

Just now, Success said:

 

How were you on the Allen pick?

 

I had  Josh Allen tied with Baker Mayfield as best QBs in the draft. I then had Mason Rudolph third , Lamar Jackson fourth , Sam Darnold 5th (I don't trust USC QBs) and Josh Rosen 6th. 

[jlgarsh]

Apparently it's the guy Josh wanted, so I'm not going to complain. 40 times are irrelevant for WRs most of the time. Anquan Boldin ran a 4.71, and Jarvis Landry was a 4.77. They turned out okay.

[Aaronthebaron]

McConkie one pick later stings

[TwistofFate]

AI Grok has spoken.....

 

Grok

@grok

Keon Coleman certainly has the potential to be a great receiver. He showcased his skills at Florida State University, where he recorded 658 yards on 50 receptions and 11 touchdowns in his final college season, which is quite impressive. Additionally, he was a standout player at Michigan State before transferring to FSU, with a record of 798 yards on 58 receptions and seven touchdowns in his sophomore season. These stats highlight his ability to perform at a high level in different programs.

 

However, there are a few points that might make some evaluators pause. For instance, his average speed and lack of nuance in route running could limit his impact at the professional level. Despite these concerns, his physicality and ball skills are strong, and he has shown he can excel in tight coverage situations, which are crucial for a successful NFL receiver.

 

As he transitions to the Buffalo Bills, his size and physicality should be a valuable addition to the team, especially given their recent changes in the receiver unit. If he manages to build a strong rapport with quarterback Josh Allen, his upside could be significant. It's also worth noting that his blocking skills could benefit the Bills' offensive scheme, which has been leaning more on the ground attack.

 

In summary, while there are areas where Keon Coleman could improve, his physical abilities and college performance suggest he has the potential to become a great receiver in the NFL.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

9 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I just looked back at Kelvin Benjamin's scouting report. Guess what his 40 time was? 4.61. Guess what the report said? "Plays faster"

It's a Beane/McD thing. They've been trying to find that big receiver since they came to Buffalo. One epic fail (Benjamin), one moderate success (Gabe). Third time is a Hall of Famer.

yeah, but while Carpenter has that dawg in him, Benjamin had them donuts in him. 

[TheWeatherMan]

5 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

So all you people that say Beane drafts BPA, can we not hear from you for a long long time....

He has only drafted BPA twice since being a GM…Josh and Ed.  He’s no Howie Roseman

Edited April 26 by TheWeatherMan

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

*deep breath*

 

He's the last guy in the group I had for the top of the second. But if you are talking about purely complementary skills, it's hard to say that he isn't the power forward to the point and shooting guard of Samuel and Shakir 

 

I can see the logic.

 

I don't AGREE with the logic, but if Mitchell has character concerns he has the highest ceiling to be a number 1.

[Process]

People just assuming we could trade back and still get him are ridiculous. It's not like he was projected as a 5th rounder. He was always going somewhere in round 2. Just because you had 3 guys ahead of him doesn't mean thats the order they would get drafted in. Polk just went ahead of Mitchell and Franklin as well. That kid from Florida went ahead of all of them . We have no idea. NE could have taken him at 34. 

 

I wanted a WR. They got the guy Josh wanted. That's good enough for me. 

 

And I bet we take another one tonight. 

 

Franklin and Mitchell still available.

[BillsDiehard]

2 minutes ago, Casey D said:

Polk just drafted before Mitchell.  Why?

Character obviously