All Gunner's Draft Stuff.... 2024 Edition!!!

[GunnerBill]

Welcome one and all to Draft Day!! It's finally here. It has felt like a long time coming. As has become traditional now I publish a compendium of my draft content from the past few months on the day of the draft, or sometimes just before. Hopefully people find it useful to refer back to as the draft progresses but equally it serves as a useful archive for what I thought at the time when we look back. For example, when we have been talking about the relative strength of receiver classes this year it has been a useful cross reference back to other strong receiver group such as 2020 etc. It helps us remember where I was right and where I was wrong - and don't worry, I'm wrong plenty! 

 

I have graded 140 players this year and it is an interesting class. I think there is a small cluster of true elite guys at the top and then there is a real nice group of mid to late first round talent and that pattern continues through day 2. I don't think it is the deepest class though. Plenty has been made of the reduced number of underclassmen coming out and what you have this year is a ton of older prospects, especially on day 3, who might be at or close to their physical peak and have either had interesting journeys at the college level or have underachieved their expectations. That isn't to say some of those guys won't be productive NFL players, but I think it is going to be harder to find diamonds in the rough in this class. Most of them have been well polished and are not that shiny!

 

Okay... onto business. Already published:

 

My 2024 Draft Sleepers with an additional couple of added names

My 2024 Quarterback evaluations

My FINAL 2024 Mock Draft

 

As ever the new content that I pull together for this thread is:

A full list of my 21 first round grades;

An analysis of my top 100;

Positional top 5s.

 

[Key: * denotes medical concern; ^ denotes potential off-field / behavioural concern]

 

First Round Grades:

1. Joe Alt, OT, Notre Dame

2. Marvin Harrison Jnr, WR, Ohio State

3. Malik Nabers, WR, LSU

4. Caleb Williams, QB, USC

5. Jer’Zhan Newton, DT, Illinois*

6. Rome Odunze, WR, Washington

7. Quinyon Mitchell, CB, Toledo

8. Laiatu Latu, DE, UCLA*

9. Terrion Arnold, CB, Alabama

10. Olu Fashanu, OT, Penn State

11. Dallas Turner, DE, Alabama

12. Jared Verse, DE, Florida State

13. Byron Murphy, DT, Texas

14. Drake Maye, QB, North Carolina

15. Nate Wiggins, CB, Clemson

16. Cooper DeJean, CB, Iowa*

17. Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia*

18. Xavier Legette, WR, South Carolina

19. Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona

20. Brock Bowers, TE, Georgia

21. Kool-Aid McKinstry, CB, Alabama

 

I also then have five 1st/2nd round borderline grades. They are: 22. Brian Thomas, WR, LSU*; 23. Troy Fautanu, OT, Washington; 24. Chop Robinson, DE, Penn State; 25. Taliese Fuage, OT, Oregon State; 26. Graham Barton, IOL, Duke.

 

Analysis of the top 100:

Here is the positional breakdown of my top 100:-

 

Quarterback: 6

Running Back: 5

Tight End: 3

Wide Receiver: 20

Offensive Tackle: 12

Interior Offensive Line: 10

Total offensive players: 56

 

Interior Defensive Line: 9

Edge Rusher: 10

Linebacker: 4

Corner: 13

Safety: 8

Total defensive players: 44

 

Strengths and Weaknesses of the top 100:

This is a strong offensive draft at the top - helped significantly by the fact that there is a really good crop of wide receivers that could, and most will, go in the first two days. There is also a really good oline group. That broadly breaks down to - offensive tackles early (8 of the 12 tackles in my top 100 are actually in my top 40) and interior offensive line later (only 2 of the 10 interior offensive linemen are in my top 40). Those groups and an interesting Quarterback class that has some ability but has some holes too make up for a draft that is weak at running back in terms of bona-fide RB1s at the NFL level and very weak at tight end (my third tight end in the top 100 just sneaks in at #97). Tight end classes seem to go in odd years. Last year was a decent group, this year was very thin - that probably means 2025 will be stronger again. 

 

In terms of defense, it's a strange class on many ways. I think the corner group is pretty solid. There are some clear tiers in there, the top 5 then a group of round two guys, then a group of scheme specific types that can go rounds 3 and 4. And the safety class while lacking a standout star has a lot of guys who I think will go between late 2nd and mid 4th and could well be good long term NFL starters. The defensive line group is had to get a handle on. I think the top two interior guys and the top 3 edge guys are pretty good. They are all legit first round talents. When you get beyond that though you get scheme specific very quickly. I've said multiple times that my group of 2nd round grades at the edge spot probably all want to play as a 3-4 outside backer who is almost exclusively in a 2 point stance. The third and fourth rounds are thin at the spot and again you are going to have them graded all over the place by teams because the scheme specificity for some these guys is pretty clear. Finally it isn't a good linebacker group. I think since I started doing this off the ball linebacker is the position that feels like it has had the most consistent drop off in the depth of quality players available in drafts. As college defenses get increasingly multiple finding guys you can plug into base defenses in the NFL at mike linebacker in particular is getting more difficult. 

 

Once you go beyond the top 100 to 120 it starts to thin out. Kinda the opposite of last year when the top of my board was pretty sparse through the first two rounds but then like a Christmas tree it thickened out lower down. This board looks a bit more top heavy but I think this is one of the better top 100s of recent years - and certainly my 100th ranked player is almost a full round higher than he was in 2023 in terms of grade. 

 

Positional Top 5s:

(round I have them graded in parenthesis) 

 

Quarterback

1. Caleb Williams, USC (1st)

2. Drake Maye, North Carolina (1st)

3. Michael Penix Jnr*, Washington (2nd)

4. Jayden Daniels, LSU (2nd)

5. Bo Nix, Oregon (3rd)

 

Running Back

1. Jonathan Brooks, Texas (2nd)

2. Trey Benson, Florida State (2nd)

3. Jaylen Wright, Tennessee (3rd)

4. MarShawn Lloyd, USC (3rd)

5. Blake Corum, Michigan (3rd)

 

Wide Receiver

1. Marvin Harrison Jnr, Ohio State (1st)

2. Malik Nabers, LSU (1st)

3. Rome Odunze, Washington (1st)

4. Xavier Legette, South Carolina (1st)

5. Brian Thomas Jnr*, LSU (1st/2nd)

 

Tight End

1. Brock Bowers, Georgia (1st)

2. Ja'Tavion Sanders, Texas (2nd)

3. Cade Stover, Ohio State (3rd)

4. Ben Sinnott, Kansas State (4th)

5. Theo Johnson, Penn State (4th)

 

Offensive Tackle

1. Joe Alt, Notre Dame (1st)

2. Olu Fashanu, Penn State (1st)

3. Amarius Mims*, Georgia (1st)

4. Jordan Morgan, Arizona (1st)

5. Troy Fautanu, Washington (1st/2nd)

 

Interior Offensive Line

1. Graham Barton, Duke (1st/2nd)

2. Jackson Powers-Johnson, Oregon (2nd)

3. Christian Haynes, UConn (2nd)

4. Zach Frazier, West Virginia (2nd)

5. Christian Mahogany, Boston College (3rd)

 

Interior Defensive Line

1. Jer'Zhan Newton*, Illinois (1st)

2. Byron Murhpy, Texas (1st)

3. Braden Fiske, Florida State (2nd)

4. Kris Jenkins, Michigan (2nd)

5. T'Vondre Sweat^, Texas (2nd)

 

EDGE

1. Laiatu Latu*, UCLA (1st)

2. Dallas Turner, Alabama (1st)

3. Jared Verse, Florida State (1st)

4. Chop Robinson, Penn State (1st/2nd)

5. Bralen Trice, Washington (2nd)

 

Linebacker

1. Payton Wilson, North Carolina State (2nd)

2. Edgerrin Cooper, Texas A&M (2nd)

3. Jeremiah Trotter, Clemson (3rd)

4. Junior Colson, Michigan (3rd)

5. Jordan Magee, Temple (4th)

 

Corner

1. Quinyon Mitchell, Toledo (1st)

2. Terrion Arnold, Alabama (1st)

3. Nate Wiggins, Clemson (1st)

4. Cooper DeJean, Iowa (1st)

5. Kool-Aid McKinstry, Alabama (1st)

 

Safety

1. Tyler Nubin, Minnesota (2nd)

2. Calen Bullock, USC (2nd)

3. Jaden Hicks, Washington State (3rd)

4. Cole Bishop, Utah (3rd)

5. Javon Bullard, Georgia (3rd)

 

 

Final thoughts

I think in terms of the names that we can expect to come off the board tonight there are not going to be too many shocks. Possibly one or two offensive tackles or wide receivers that had been pegged more as day two types by many sneaking into round 1 or if you want a total shock Payton Wilson finding his way into the last half dozen picks, which I've seen nobody mock, wouldn't be a complete shock to me. Otherwise it is going to be a case of waiting to see where the runs start. We expect an early run on the three top wideouts and on quarterbacks but then the teens and early 20s could be an absolute glut of offensive tackles and corners. I will do my usual day by day de-briefs and will be interesting to see what the board looks like going into day two. Last year we saw the likes of Joey Porter and Will Levis still there only to be snapped up in the first couple of picks, and then thinking back to the 2020 draft where the wide receiver depth was arguably comparable Tee Higgins and Michael Pittman were the first two names called on the second day. Almost time for the talking and speculating to stop.... my mock needs its final touches. Then we are ready to roll!!

 

Edited April 25 by GunnerBill

[NORWOODS FOOT]

Thank you very much for sharing all of this. After our Super Bowl run ended, the draft became my favorite football day of the year. I started watching the year that we drafted Jeff Burris of Notre Dame and have been going steady since.

 

A few thoughts on some players: 

 

WR’s

 

I would love one of the big three, particularly Harrison or Odunze. I like their size, their productivity, and their character.

 

LEGETTE - I think there’s a lot of variance on where teams have him ranked. It’ll only take one to pull the trigger. He’s kind of a one year wonder thus far but may be on a very good trajectory. I have him ranked a little bit lower, but I’m cheering for him. History is pretty incredible. He’s already overcome a lot to be where he is. I think he’s a bit of a projection regarding his ability down the field. He’s shown flashes, but a team will have to decide if he can develop into someone that can be proficient at all three levels of the defense.

 

WORTHY - while I still have concerns about his size, I’ve come around on him. If we could scheme to keep him off of the line of scrimmage when a team is in press coverage, I think we could work around it. he had a huge number of targets all three years at Texas and has held up. Also, just due to his speed, he would force any defensive backfield to spread out and create space for our other pass catchers. Anytime he runs a go route a defense will have to have someone follow him if not two defenders. If we have a strong run game our play action could be killer with him: 1) if he is open Josh can throw him a bomb, 2) if he pulls two defenders, somebody else should be open, and 3) if they hand the ball off in the back can break into the secondary there should be plenty of running room. Though I still have some concerns, I would actually be very happy if the Bills choose to take him as long as they have a plan to maximize his strengths. I won’t be surprised if the Bills target him.

 

COLEMAN - i’m torn about him. I think he still has a lot of untapped upside and some good things to work with. His play speed is faster than his timed speed and he’s great at catching the ball even while being contacted. If he can continue to work on his speed and learn the intricacies of creating separation I think he could end up being very good, especially in the red zone. I wouldn’t be surprised if he snuck into the end of the first round and is probably going to be gone by the middle of the second.

Edited April 25 by NORWOODS FOOT

[FireChans]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Welcome one and all to Draft Day!! It's finally here. It has felt like a long time coming. As has become traditional now I publish a compendium of my draft content from the past few months on the day of the draft, or sometimes just before. Hopefully people find it useful to refer back to as the draft progresses but equally it serves as a useful archive for what I thought at the time when we look back. For example, when we have been talking about the relative strength of receiver classes this year it has been a useful cross reference back to other strong receiver group such as 2020 etc. It helps us remember where I was right and where I was wrong - and don't worry, I'm wrong plenty! 

 

I have graded 140 players this year and it is an interesting class. I think there is a small cluster of true elite guys at the top and then there is a real nice group of mid to late first round talent and that pattern continues through day 2. I don't think it is the deepest class though. Plenty has been made of the reduced number of underclassmen coming out and what you have this year is a ton of older prospects, especially on day 3, who might be at or close to their physical peak and have either had interesting journeys at the college level or have underachieved their expectations. That isn't to say some of those guys won't be productive NFL players, but I think it is going to be harder to find diamonds in the rough in this class. Most of them have been well polished and are not that shiny!

 

Okay... onto business. Already published:

 

My 2024 Draft Sleepers with an additional couple of added names

My 2024 Quarterback evaluations

My 2024 Mock Draft - Final version to follow later today

 

As ever the new content that I pull together for this thread is:

A full list of my 21 first round grades;

An analysis of my top 100;

Positional top 5s.

 

[Key: * denotes medical concern; ^ denotes potential off-field / behavioural concern]

 

First Round Grades:

1. Joe Alt, OT, Notre Dame

2. Marvin Harrison Jnr, WR, Ohio State

3. Malik Nabers, WR, LSU

4. Caleb Williams, QB, USC

5. Jer’Zhan Newton, DT, Illinois*

6. Rome Odunze, WR, Washington

7. Quinyon Mitchell, CB, Toledo

8. Laiatu Latu, DE, UCLA*

9. Terrion Arnold, CB, Alabama

10. Olu Fashanu, OT, Penn State

11. Dallas Turner, DE, Alabama

12. Jared Verse, DE, Florida State

13. Byron Murphy, DT, Texas

14. Drake Maye, QB, North Carolina

15. Nate Wiggins, CB, Clemson

16. Cooper DeJean, CB, Iowa*

17. Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia*

18. Xavier Legette, WR, South Carolina

19. Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona

20. Brock Bowers, TE, Georgia

21. Kool-Aid McKinstry, CB, Alabama

 

I also then have five 1st/2nd round borderline grades. They are: 22. Brian Thomas, WR, LSU*; 23. Troy Fautanu, OT, Washington; 24. Chop Robinson, DE, Penn State; 25. Taliese Fuage, OT, Oregon State; 26. Graham Barton, IOL, Duke.

 

Analysis of the top 100:

Here is the positional breakdown of my top 100:-

 

Quarterback: 6

Running Back: 5

Tight End: 3

Wide Receiver: 20

Offensive Tackle: 12

Interior Offensive Line: 10

Total offensive players: 56

 

Interior Defensive Line: 9

Edge Rusher: 10

Linebacker: 4

Corner: 13

Safety: 8

Total defensive players: 44

 

Strengths and Weaknesses of the top 100:

This is a strong offensive draft at the top - helped significantly by the fact that there is a really good crop of wide receivers that could, and most will, go in the first two days. There is also a really good oline group. That broadly breaks down to - offensive tackles early (8 of the 12 tackles in my top 100 are actually in my top 40) and interior offensive line later (only 2 of the 10 interior offensive linemen are in my top 40). Those groups and an interesting Quarterback class that has some ability but has some holes too make up for a draft that is weak at running back in terms of bona-fide RB1s at the NFL level and very weak at tight end (my third tight end in the top 100 just sneaks in at #97). Tight end classes seem to go in odd years. Last year was a decent group, this year was very thin - that probably means 2025 will be stronger again. 

 

In terms of defense, it's a strange class on many ways. I think the corner group is pretty solid. There are some clear tiers in there, the top 5 then a group of round two guys, then a group of scheme specific types that can go rounds 3 and 4. And the safety class while lacking a standout star has a lot of guys who I think will go between late 2nd and mid 4th and could well be good long term NFL starters. The defensive line group is had to get a handle on. I think the top two interior guys and the top 3 edge guys are pretty good. They are all legit first round talents. When you get beyond that though you get scheme specific very quickly. I've said multiple times that my group of 2nd round grades at the edge spot probably all want to play as a 3-4 outside backer who is almost exclusively in a 2 point stance. The third and fourth rounds are thin at the spot and again you are going to have them graded all over the place by teams because the scheme specificity for some these guys is pretty clear. Finally it isn't a good linebacker group. I think since I started doing this off the ball linebacker is the position that feels like it has had the most consistent drop off in the depth of quality players available in drafts. As college defenses get increasingly multiple finding guys you can plug into base defenses in the NFL at mike linebacker in particular is getting more difficult. 

 

Once you go beyond the top 100 to 120 it starts to thin out. Kinda the opposite of last year when the top of my board was pretty sparse through the first two rounds but then like a Christmas tree it thickened out lower down. This board looks a bit more top heavy but I think this is one of the better top 100s of recent years - and certainly my 100th ranked player is almost a full round higher than he was in 2023 in terms of grade. 

 

Positional Top 5s:

(round I have them graded in parenthesis) 

 

Quarterback

1. Caleb Williams, USC (1st)

2. Drake Maye, North Carolina (1st)

3. Michael Penix Jnr*, Washington (2nd)

4. Jayden Daniels, LSU (2nd)

5. Bo Nix, Oregon (3rd)

 

Running Back

1. Jonathan Brooks, Texas (2nd)

2. Trey Benson, Florida State (2nd)

3. Jaylen Wright, Tennessee (3rd)

4. MarShawn Lloyd, USC (3rd)

5. Blake Corum, Michigan (3rd)

 

Wide Receiver

1. Marvin Harrison Jnr, Ohio State (1st)

2. Malik Nabers, LSU (1st)

3. Rome Odunze, Washington (1st)

4. Xavier Legette, South Carolina (1st)

5. Brian Thomas Jnr*, LSU (1st/2nd)

 

Tight End

1. Brock Bowers, Georgia (1st)

2. Ja'Tavion Sanders, Texas (2nd)

3. Cade Stover, Ohio State (3rd)

4. Ben Sinnott, Kansas State (4th)

5. Theo Johnson, Penn State (4th)

 

Offensive Tackle

1. Joe Alt, Notre Dame (1st)

2. Olu Fashanu, Penn State (1st)

3. Amarius Mims*, Georgia (1st)

4. Jordan Morgan, Arizona (1st)

5. Troy Fautanu, Washington (1st/2nd)

 

Interior Offensive Line

1. Graham Barton, Duke (1st/2nd)

2. Jackson Powers-Johnson, Oregon (2nd)

3. Christian Haynes, UConn (2nd)

4. Zach Frazier, West Virginia (2nd)

5. Christian Mahogany, Boston College (3rd)

 

Interior Defensive Line

1. Jer'Zhan Newton*, Illinois (1st)

2. Byron Murhpy, Texas (1st)

3. Braden Fiske, Florida State (2nd)

4. Kris Jenkins, Michigan (2nd)

5. T'Vondre Sweat^, Texas (2nd)

 

EDGE

1. Laiatu Latu*, UCLA (1st)

2. Dallas Turner, Alabama (1st)

3. Jared Verse, Florida State (1st)

4. Chop Robinson, Penn State (1st/2nd)

5. Bralen Trice, Washington (2nd)

 

Linebacker

1. Payton Wilson, North Carolina State (2nd)

2. Edgerrin Cooper, Texas A&M (2nd)

3. Jeremiah Trotter, Clemson (3rd)

4. Junior Colson, Michigan (3rd)

5. Jordan Magee, Temple (4th)

 

Corner

1. Quinyon Mitchell, Toledo (1st)

2. Terrion Arnold, Alabama (1st)

3. Nate Wiggins, Clemson (1st)

4. Cooper DeJean, Iowa (1st)

5. Kool-Aid McKinstry, Alabama (1st)

 

Safety

1. Tyler Nubin, Minnesota (2nd)

2. Calen Bullock, USC (2nd)

3. Jaden Hicks, Washington State (3rd)

4. Cole Bishop, Utah (3rd)

5. Javon Bullard, Georgia (3rd)

 

 

Final thoughts

I think in terms of the names that we can expect to come off the board tonight there are not going to be too many shocks. Possibly one or two offensive tackles or wide receivers that had been pegged more as day two types by many sneaking into round 1 or if you want a total shock Payton Wilson finding his way into the last half dozen picks, which I've seen nobody mock, wouldn't be a complete shock to me. Otherwise it is going to be a case of waiting to see where the runs start. We expect an early run on the three top wideouts and on quarterbacks but then the teens and early 20s could be an absolute glut of offensive tackles and corners. I will do my usual day by day de-briefs and will be interesting to see what the board looks like going into day two. Last year we saw the likes of Joey Porter and Will Levis still there only to be snapped up in the first couple of picks, and then thinking back to the 2020 draft where the wide receiver depth was arguably comparable Tee Higgins and Michael Pittman were the first two names called on the second day. Almost time for the talking and speculating to stop.... my mock needs its final touches. Then we are ready to roll!!

 

A third round grade on my boy Bullard???)

[SoCal Deek]

Gunner

I didn’t read the entire post but I’m going to assume it’s well done as always. Not sure if you intended it this way or not but when I counted across the entire list I find you only gave 20 guys a 1st Round grade. That means almost half the league is going to ‘reach’ tonight. 

[GunnerBill]

37 minutes ago, FireChans said:

A third round grade on my boy Bullard???)

 

Yea range is my worry with him. I like him in small spaces. But if you can isolate him with grass around him he doesn't have the length or recovery speed to be comfortable IMO.

[SydneyBillsFan]

What is your rationale for rating Brian Thomas considerably lower than any other mock that I have seen?

[BuffaloBillyG]

Thank you, once again for the outstanding content and work put in, Gunner. As has become my draft night norm I'll have this thread open when the Bills get within picking range as a nice guide into what's left, what's needed and who may be targeted. While your work is always solid and well done I feel this year was a smashing success done by you. Kudos!

[GunnerBill]

3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Gunner

I didn’t read the entire post but I’m going to assume it’s well done as always. Not sure if you intended it this way or not but when I counted across the entire list I find you only gave 20 guys a 1st Round grade. That means almost half the league is going to ‘reach’ tonight. 

 

It's 21 true first round grades. It doesn't mean half the league will reach. Every board will be different and some of those I see as high 2s will be 1s for teams where they are looking at a specific skillset and team fit. But also if you are a team drafting later in the round and the first round grades are gone and you take a high 2nd round grade that isn't a reach. That happens in every draft.

2 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said:

What is your rationale for rating Brian Thomas considerably lower than any other mock that I have seen?

 

I don't see a fit for him. I have been on him for the Jags all offseason but Im being told be people with a history of being right on them that they are lasered in on corner. Add that to the medical concern and I don't think it is crazy that he gets to #28 or close to that range and someone (the Bills or someone else) trades into the earlier 20s to take him

[SoCal Deek]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It's 21 true first round grades. It doesn't mean half the league will reach. Every board will be different and some of those I see as high 2s will be 1s for teams where they are looking at a specific skillset and team fit. But also if you are a team drafting later in the round and the first round grades are gone and you take a high 2nd round grade that isn't a reach. That happens in every draft.

Thanks…it’s why I put reach in quotation marks. So with that being said what’s your gut feeling of how this year stacks up against other recent draft classes? It seems like a good one to me but it may because I’ve focused on QB (like everyone does every year) and WR being a position of Bills need. 

[GunnerBill]

9 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Thanks…it’s why I put reach in quotation marks. So with that being said what’s your gut feeling of how this year stacks up against other recent draft classes? It seems like a good one to me but it may because I’ve focused on QB (like everyone does every year) and WR being a position of Bills need. 

 

It is a good day 1 and day 2 group IMO. I think in 10 years if you look back the top 120 this class will stack up well against the top 120 in other classes. I think day 3 is a bit weaker than normal, fewer underclassmen etc.

[boyst]

So is it fair to say that safety and linebacker are the weakest position in the draft? I see you only have 5 rbs in the top 100, and 3 tight ends, with 4 lbs. 

 

Safety is a need. And I've seen many slated all over but I don't think it is fair to judge what a safety would do with our coaching. We seem to polish the most out of our talent there.  Linebacker is a sneaky need for us. But not a top 100 need.

 

Either way, my point is quality players in the last 3-5 years have trended toward offense in a very heavy way. 

[Solomon Grundy]

I like Trey Benson a little bit more than Jonathan Brooks, personally.

[The BLUES Brothers]

9 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

I like Trey Benson a little bit more than Jonathan Brooks, personally.

Would love to see Benson as a Bill - different style to James Cook, but they'd have to pick him at 60 to get him, right? Wish we had more top 100 picks

[Sweats]

I like anybody named "Chop"

[Big Blitz]

WR round 1

 

Zach Frazier Round 2

 

NO MATTER WHAT

[Sweats]

I so wanted to read this, however, my boss is breathing down my neck today.........i'm looking forward to reading it when that prick goes for lunch.

[GunnerBill]

5 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

I like Trey Benson a little bit more than Jonathan Brooks, personally.

 

That doesn't surprise me. It is consistent with some of the other backs you like in terms of style. He misses too many holes for me. That is what just has him below Brooks. I think Benson need his linenmen to create holes. Brooks can find creases where they barely exist.

[Richard Noggin]

Interesting how such a substantive and timely post gets relatively little engagement. I guess such sober diligence doesn't exactly invite online debate.

 

Because we're almost all WR crazy, I'm wondering what you see in Legette's ability to separate at the next level that so many others don't. I am drawn to him as a compelling projection with a compelling past. His physicality would be a welcome addition. But I often get told he isn't a separator, bottom line. How do you reconcile that disparity?

 

Additionally, where do you see Franklin (who I think the Bills really like) and Worthy (who I think almost every NFL team likes)? 

[Saint Doug]

5 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

Interesting how such a substantive and timely post gets relatively little engagement. I guess such sober diligence doesn't exactly invite online debate.

 

Because we're almost all WR crazy, I'm wondering what you see in Legette's ability to separate at the next level that so many others don't. I am drawn to him as a compelling projection with a compelling past. His physicality would be a welcome addition. But I often get told he isn't a separator, bottom line. How do you reconcile that disparity?

 

Additionally, where do you see Franklin (who I think the Bills really like) and Worthy (who I think almost every NFL team likes)? 

Pretty much. We have a 44-page thread about the Bills rumored to be trying to move up in the first to pick a WR. Anyone, their sister or their cat knows this to be a fact, but somehow it garners so much discussion. 

[Solomon Grundy]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

That doesn't surprise me. It is consistent with some of the other backs you like in terms of style. He misses too many holes for me. That is what just has him below Brooks. I think Benson need his linenmen to create holes. Brooks can find creases where they barely exist.

No, I'm just a FSU fan 😎