NeverOutNick's Annual WR Rankings

[nedboy7]

1 hour ago, MJS said:

He doesn't, really. His only concern is only having 1 year of production. Not sure why anyone is so down on him. He is great.

Ouside the top3 I feel he is the surest pick. 

[MiracleAtRich1393]

14 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

See Puka Nucua’s name once in that thread, and its bottom of someone’s list.  Even if we get one of the “names” early, can always strike gold with a later round flier too.

Jalen Coker's my day 3 sleeper, hope we use a 6th on him if he's there and wouldn't hate a 5th

[Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD]

This draft is absolutely loaded with wide receivers and I would consider trading away our 2025 2nd rounder we got from the Diggs Trade to get back into the 3rd round.

 

My sleepers are:

Javon Baker

Ja’Lynn Polk

Jamari Thrash

 

They won't wow you with their measurables, but they get open and catch the ball.

 

[MJS]

2 hours ago, nedboy7 said:

Ouside the top3 I feel he is the surest pick. 

I think I like Brian Thomas just as much, if not more, but it's close for me. If we get either one I'll be very happy.

[NeverOutNick]

Here’s my mock draft so I don’t lose it next year lol

 

1.  Bears - QB Caleb Williams 

2.  Commanders - QB Jayden Daniels

3. TRADE! Giants - QB Drake Maye

4. Cardinals - WR Marvin Harrison Jr

5. TRADE! Vikings - QB Michael Penix Jr.

6.  Patriots - QB JJ McCarthy 

7. Titans - OT Joe Alt

8. TRADE! Jaguars - WR Malik Nabers

9. TRADE! Bills - WR Rome Odunze

10. Jets - TE Brock Bowers

11. Chargers - OT JC Latham

12. Broncos - QB Bo Nix

13. Raiders - OT Taliese Fuaga

14. Saints - Edge Dallas Turner

15. TRADE! Rams DT Byron Murphy II

16. Seahawks - DE Laiatu Latu

17. Falcons - DE Jared Verse

18. Bengals - WR Brian Thomas Jr

19. TRADE - Packers - Olu Fashanu

20. Steelers - WR Xavier Worthy

21. TRADE! Chiefs - WR AD Mitchell 

22. Eagles - CB Terrion Arnold 

23. Chargers - CB Quinyon Mitchell

24 Cowboys - OG Graham Barton 

25. Packers - OT Amarius Mims 

26. Bucs - OT Troy Fautana

27. Cardinals - DE Chop Robinson

28. Bears - OT Tyler Guyton

29. Lions - CB Cooper Dejean 

30. Ravens - CB Nate Wiggins 

31. 49ers - CB Kool-aid McKinstry 

32. Dolphins - DT Jer’zhan Newton

[NeverOutNick]

16 hours ago, NeverOutNick said:

Here’s my mock draft so I don’t lose it next year lol

 

1.  Bears - QB Caleb Williams 

2.  Commanders - QB Jayden Daniels

3. TRADE! Giants - QB Drake Maye

4. Cardinals - WR Marvin Harrison Jr

5. TRADE! Vikings - QB Michael Penix Jr.

6.  Patriots - QB JJ McCarthy 

7. Titans - OT Joe Alt

8. TRADE! Jaguars - WR Malik Nabers

9. TRADE! Bills - WR Rome Odunze

10. Jets - TE Brock Bowers

11. Chargers - OT JC Latham

12. Broncos - QB Bo Nix

13. Raiders - OT Taliese Fuaga

14. Saints - Edge Dallas Turner

15. TRADE! Rams DT Byron Murphy II

16. Seahawks - DE Laiatu Latu

17. Falcons - DE Jared Verse

18. Bengals - WR Brian Thomas Jr

19. TRADE - Packers - Olu Fashanu

20. Steelers - WR Xavier Worthy

21. TRADE! Chiefs - WR AD Mitchell 

22. Eagles - CB Terrion Arnold 

23. Chargers - CB Quinyon Mitchell

24 Cowboys - OG Graham Barton 

25. Packers - OT Amarius Mims 

26. Bucs - OT Troy Fautana

27. Cardinals - DE Chop Robinson

28. Bears - OT Tyler Guyton

29. Lions - CB Cooper Dejean 

30. Ravens - CB Nate Wiggins 

31. 49ers - CB Kool-aid McKinstry 

32. Dolphins - DT Jer’zhan Newton

28 out of 32 not bad

[GunnerBill]

On 4/25/2024 at 1:21 PM, MJS said:

He doesn't, really. His only concern is only having 1 year of production. Not sure why anyone is so down on him. He is great.

 

Yep. I'm sad he went to Carolina. But stoked he got into round 1. If they can get any sort of production out of Bryce Young he is going to be a stud receiver.

2 hours ago, NeverOutNick said:

28 out of 32 not bad

 

Also 28. You got Nix I took out of my final version sadly but not only did you disparage my guy Legette in this thread you also missed my other guy Morgan out of your mock. 

[MiracleAtRich1393]

On 4/25/2024 at 10:48 AM, Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD said:

This draft is absolutely loaded with wide receivers and I would consider trading away our 2025 2nd rounder we got from the Diggs Trade to get back into the 3rd round.

 

My sleepers are:

Javon Baker

Ja’Lynn Polk

Jamari Thrash

 

They won't wow you with their measurables, but they get open and catch the ball.

 

Love Polk! If we traded down and got him in the 40's while adding more picks it would be a great draft

[NeverOutNick]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

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Also 28. You got Nix I took out of my final version sadly but not only did you disparage my guy Legette in this thread you also missed my other guy Morgan out of your mock. 

Feel like I’m going to be pegged a Legette hater when I’m not lol. I just don’t think he’s a #1 WR because he’s not a good separator but definitely didn’t think he’d go round 1. Morgan I did consider back of the first but honestly thought a couple more corners would go late. SF definitely needs some corner help

[GunnerBill]

Just now, NeverOutNick said:

Feel like I’m going to be pegged a Legette hater when I’m not lol. I just don’t think he’s a #1 WR because he’s not a good separator but definitely didn’t think he’d go round 1. Morgan I did consider back of the first but honestly thought a couple more corners would go late. SF definitely needs some corner help

 

I disagree on Legette's ability to separate. He separate plenty well enough. Agree SF need a corner. They might have taken one if Baltimore didn't nab Wiggins right in front.

[NeverOutNick]

I hit on 29 out of my top 30 WRs, only missing out on my #30 and honestly he'll probably do well in Detroit. I wrote a quick tier assessment below (undrelined and italicized) and bolded the team that drafted the WR. 

 

Some things I noticed were most of my top ranked WRs went to teams with offensive minded head coaches with young QBs and/or teams with franchise QBs getting them more weapons. Some of these teams went back to the well multiple times and didn't even need to BUT because they understood how great a WR draft this was they took the value when it fell to them.

 

 

Tier 1 – Can’t Miss, pick your flavor, would be the top WR in most drafts and we get THREE of them this year.

 

1.      Marvin Harrison – Arizona pick 4

2.      Rome Odunze – Bears pick 9

3.      Malik Nabers – Giants pick 6

 

We had no real chance to get these guys

 

Tier 2 – Late first round - Potential #1 WRs that still need a little refinement

 

4.      AD Mitchell – Colts pick 52

5.      Brain Thomas Jr – Jaguars pick 23

6.      Troy Franklin – Broncos pick 102

 

Apparently we didn’t like either Mitchell or Franklin. Could’ve easily taken Franklin over Carter in the 3rd and I would’ve said we had a very good draft but we will soon see if I or our FO was wrong on Franklin

 

Tier 3 – Special #2 options

 

7.      Xavier Worthy – Chiefs pick 28 (we basically gave him to the chiefs)

8.      Ladd McConkey – Chargers pick 34

 

I get why we passed when we did with what kind of WR we needed but didn’t realize we weren’t going to try and get a deep threat at all in this draft rich with them

 

Tier 4 – Potential #1 WRs with HUGE question marks that a lot of teams won’t take the risk on (I would because of the upside)

9.      Jermaine Burton –  Bengals pick 80

10. Tez Walker –Ravens pick 113

 

2 players with speed and upside we should’ve went after but the teams that got them understand that their franchise QBs need downfield weapons

 

 

Tier 5 – Good to Great #2 options that will go somewhere Day 2 of the draft (deepest part of the WR draft)

11. Ja’Lynn Polk – Patriots pick 37

12.  Ricky Pearsall – 49ers pick 31

13.  Keon Coleman – Bills pick 33

14. Xavier Legette – Panthers pick 32

15. Roman Wilson – Steelers pick 84

16. Brenden Rice – Chargers pick 225

17. Javon Baker – Patriots pick 110

 

All solid #2 WRs like I said before. Very surprised Rice fell so far, maybe something will come out about him. 

 

Tier 6 – A slot of talent, early day 3 guys

 

18. Malachi Corley – Jets pick 65

19. Ainais Smith – Eagles pick 152

20. Malik Washington – Dolphins pick 184

 

Speed kills! Unless you’re buffalo then we just say nah thanks we “like what we’ve got at WR”. 

 

Tier 7 – Best of the rest, Round 5-7

 

21.  Johnny Wilson – Eagles pick 185

22.  Luke McCaffrey – Commanders pick 100

23.  Jalen McMillan – Bucs pick 92  - Speed, vertical threat we could've had in 3rd

24.  Jamari Thrash – Browns pick 156

25.  Jacob Cowing – 49ers pick 135

26. Cornelius Johnson – Chargers pick 253

27.  Bub Means – Saints pick 170 - Huge upside vertical threat could've had with one of our MULTIPLE 5th round picks

28.  Ryan Flournoy – Cowboys pick 216

29.  Tahj Washington – Dolphins pick 241 - Speed, vertical threat we could've had in the 7th

30.  Isaiah Williams – Undrafted signed by Lions

 

Last thing I'll state because I can't hide my disgust on how we handled this great opportunity to improve our team with so many missed chances after the plethora of picks Beane used for players that will sit in back up rolls (but hey they're good character guys so neato...

 

I no longer trust Beane. I've given up on McD getting this team to the promised land and know it will only happen under him if Josh carries everyone on his back BUT I've always thought Beane will do his best to get the right players around Josh in spite of McD favoring his pathetic d year after year. This was an epic fail on his part. I don't care about his or anyone's ego. Who cares if Diggs said Josh can't win without a #1 WR. Who cares if you want to prove your lackluster picks in previous drafts are going to work out (Justin Shorter). What I care about is the Buffalo Bills winning a Super Bowl. What I care about is putting as much talent around the best player this franchise ever had to give him the best chance to succeed. And my final point is...Josh Allen is very intelligent. You keep giving him the scraps and expecting him to superman it year in and year out, he will leave. We won't have anyone else to blame but ourselves because he won't say anything. It's not his job to say what he wants. It's the owner and FO's job to make the right decisions and they are failing miserably since the 13 second melt down. 

 

Hopefully KJ Hamler works out as the deep threat. Coleman seems like a good kid and will be a fun Higgins type. Shakir and Samuel will do a good job in the middle and Kincaid will get better year two. I just hope it's enough. Maybe one day we'll over do it on the offensive side of the ball like we over do the defense year in and year out without success. 

 

Go Bills 

 

Edited April 28 by NeverOutNick

[LeGOATski]

I wanted the Bills to take Legette. Keon is intriguing, though. I like his style of play and I don't think his route running is as bad as you say it is.

 

Then I wanted the Bills to take Tez Walker or Malik Washington. No dice.

[Dr. Who]

18 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

I hit on 29 out of my top 30 WRs, only missing out on my #30 and honestly he'll probably do well in Detroit. I wrote a quick tier assessment below (undrelined and italicized) and bolded the team that drafted the WR. 

 

Some things I noticed were most of my top ranked WRs went to teams with offensive minded head coaches with young QBs and/or teams with franchise QBs getting them more weapons. Some of these teams went back to the well multiple times and didn't even need to BUT because they understood how great a WR draft this was they took the value when it fell to them.

 

 

Tier 1 – Can’t Miss, pick your flavor, would be the top WR in most drafts and we get THREE of them this year.

 

1.      Marvin Harrison – Arizona pick 4

2.      Rome Odunze – Bears pick 9

3.      Malik Nabers – Giants pick 6

 

We had no real chance to get these guys

 

Tier 2 – Late first round - Potential #1 WRs that still need a little refinement

 

4.      AD Mitchell – Colts pick 52

5.      Brain Thomas Jr – Jaguars pick 23

6.      Troy Franklin – Broncos pick 102

 

Apparently we didn’t like either Mitchell or Franklin. Could’ve easily taken Franklin over Carter in the 3rd and I would’ve said we had a very good draft but we will soon see if I or our FO was wrong on Franklin

 

Tier 3 – Special #2 options

 

7.      Xavier Worthy – Chiefs pick 28 (we basically gave him to the chiefs)

8.      Ladd McConkey – Chargers pick 34

 

I get why we passed when we did with what kind of WR we needed but didn’t realize we weren’t going to try and get a deep threat at all in this draft rich with them

 

Tier 4 – Potential #1 WRs with HUGE question marks that a lot of teams won’t take the risk on (I would because of the upside)

9.      Jermaine Burton –  Bengals pick 80

10. Tez Walker –Ravens pick 113

 

2 players with speed and upside we should’ve went after but the teams that got them understand that their franchise QBs need downfield weapons

 

 

Tier 5 – Good to Great #2 options that will go somewhere Day 2 of the draft (deepest part of the WR draft)

11. Ja’Lynn Polk – Patriots pick 37

12.  Ricky Pearsall – 49ers pick 31

13.  Keon Coleman – Bills pick 33

14. Xavier Legette – Panthers pick 32

15. Roman Wilson – Steelers pick 84

16. Brenden Rice – Chargers pick 225

17. Javon Baker – Patriots pick 110

 

All solid #2 WRs like I said before. Very surprised Rice fell so far, maybe something will come out about him. 

 

Tier 6 – A slot of talent, early day 3 guys

 

18. Malachi Corley – Jets pick 65

19. Ainais Smith – Eagles pick 152

20. Malik Washington – Dolphins pick 184

 

Speed kills! Unless you’re buffalo then we just say nah thanks we “like what we’ve got at WR”. 

 

Tier 7 – Best of the rest, Round 5-7

 

21.  Johnny Wilson – Eagles pick 185

22.  Luke McCaffrey – Commanders pick 100

23.  Jalen McMillan – Bucs pick 92  - Speed, vertical threat we could've had in 3rd

24.  Jamari Thrash – Browns pick 156

25.  Jacob Cowing – 49ers pick 135

26. Cornelius Johnson – Chargers pick 253

27.  Bub Means – Saints pick 170 - Huge upside vertical threat could've had with one of our MULTIPLE 5th round picks

28.  Ryan Flournoy – Cowboys pick 216

29.  Tahj Washington – Dolphins pick 241 - Speed, vertical threat we could've had in the 7th

30.  Isaiah Williams – Undrafted signed by Lions

 

Last thing I'll state because I can't hide my disgust on how we handled this great opportunity to improve our team with so many missed chances after the plethora of picks Beane used for players that will sit in back up rolls (but hey they're good character guys so neato...

 

I no longer trust Beane. I've given up on McD getting this team to the promised land and know it will only happen under him if Josh carries everyone on his back BUT I've always thought Beane will do his best to get the right players around Josh in spite of McD favoring his pathetic d year after year. This was an epic fail on his part. I don't care about his or anyone's ego. Who cares if Diggs said Josh can't win without a #1 WR. Who cares if you want to prove your lackluster picks in previous drafts are going to work out (Justin Shorter). What I care about is the Buffalo Bills winning a Super Bowl. What I care about is putting as much talent around the best player this franchise ever had to give him the best chance to succeed. And my final point is...Josh Allen is very intelligent. You keep giving him the scraps and expecting him to superman it year in and year out, he will leave. We won't have anyone else to blame but ourselves because he won't say anything. It's not his job to say what he wants. It's the owner and FO's job to make the right decisions and they are failing miserably since the 13 second melt down. 

 

Hopefully KJ Hamler works out as the deep threat. Coleman seems like a good kid and will be a fun Higgins type. Shakir and Samuel will do a good job in the middle and Kincaid will get better year two. I just hope it's enough. Maybe one day we'll over do it on the offensive side of the ball like we over do the defense year in and year out without success. 

 

Go Bills 

 

Well, I was trying to talk myself into feeling better about the draft, and now I'm mad again. Thanks, Nick.

 

It still might work out, but I do think there is an arrogance there, and it is because there isn't really accountability.

I hope Beane is lying about not bringing anyone in post 6/1.

[NeverOutNick]

4 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Well, I was trying to talk myself into feeling better about the draft, and now I'm mad again. Thanks, Nick.

 

It still might work out, but I do think there is an arrogance there, and it is because there isn't really accountability.

I hope Beane is lying about not bringing anyone in post 6/1.

100% agree and it’s eventually going to either get them both fired or Josh will not be re-signing after this contract. It’s sad because it’s ok to make mistakes in their business because they have a top 2 QB in the league. Just take care of him and he’ll take care of your jobs. Stop trying to win in spite of him. That’s not how it works, you win because of him and enjoy the free ride

[BillsFanForever19]

17 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

I hit on 29 out of my top 30 WRs, only missing out on my #30 and honestly he'll probably do well in Detroit. I wrote a quick tier assessment below (undrelined and italicized) and bolded the team that drafted the WR. 

 

Some things I noticed were most of my top ranked WRs went to teams with offensive minded head coaches with young QBs and/or teams with franchise QBs getting them more weapons. Some of these teams went back to the well multiple times and didn't even need to BUT because they understood how great a WR draft this was they took the value when it fell to them.

 

 

Tier 1 – Can’t Miss, pick your flavor, would be the top WR in most drafts and we get THREE of them this year.

 

1.      Marvin Harrison – Arizona pick 4

2.      Rome Odunze – Bears pick 9

3.      Malik Nabers – Giants pick 6

 

We had no real chance to get these guys

 

Tier 2 – Late first round - Potential #1 WRs that still need a little refinement

 

4.      AD Mitchell – Colts pick 52

5.      Brain Thomas Jr – Jaguars pick 23

6.      Troy Franklin – Broncos pick 102

 

Apparently we didn’t like either Mitchell or Franklin. Could’ve easily taken Franklin over Carter in the 3rd and I would’ve said we had a very good draft but we will soon see if I or our FO was wrong on Franklin

 

Tier 3 – Special #2 options

 

7.      Xavier Worthy – Chiefs pick 28 (we basically gave him to the chiefs)

8.      Ladd McConkey – Chargers pick 34

 

I get why we passed when we did with what kind of WR we needed but didn’t realize we weren’t going to try and get a deep threat at all in this draft rich with them

 

Tier 4 – Potential #1 WRs with HUGE question marks that a lot of teams won’t take the risk on (I would because of the upside)

9.      Jermaine Burton –  Bengals pick 80

10. Tez Walker –Ravens pick 113

 

2 players with speed and upside we should’ve went after but the teams that got them understand that their franchise QBs need downfield weapons

 

 

Tier 5 – Good to Great #2 options that will go somewhere Day 2 of the draft (deepest part of the WR draft)

11. Ja’Lynn Polk – Patriots pick 37

12.  Ricky Pearsall – 49ers pick 31

13.  Keon Coleman – Bills pick 33

14. Xavier Legette – Panthers pick 32

15. Roman Wilson – Steelers pick 84

16. Brenden Rice – Chargers pick 225

17. Javon Baker – Patriots pick 110

 

All solid #2 WRs like I said before. Very surprised Rice fell so far, maybe something will come out about him. 

 

Tier 6 – A slot of talent, early day 3 guys

 

18. Malachi Corley – Jets pick 65

19. Ainais Smith – Eagles pick 152

20. Malik Washington – Dolphins pick 184

 

Speed kills! Unless you’re buffalo then we just say nah thanks we “like what we’ve got at WR”. 

 

Tier 7 – Best of the rest, Round 5-7

 

21.  Johnny Wilson – Eagles pick 185

22.  Luke McCaffrey – Commanders pick 100

23.  Jalen McMillan – Bucs pick 92  - Speed, vertical threat we could've had in 3rd

24.  Jamari Thrash – Browns pick 156

25.  Jacob Cowing – 49ers pick 135

26. Cornelius Johnson – Chargers pick 253

27.  Bub Means – Saints pick 170 - Huge upside vertical threat could've had with one of our MULTIPLE 5th round picks

28.  Ryan Flournoy – Cowboys pick 216

29.  Tahj Washington – Dolphins pick 241 - Speed, vertical threat we could've had in the 7th

30.  Isaiah Williams – Undrafted signed by Lions

 

Last thing I'll state because I can't hide my disgust on how we handled this great opportunity to improve our team with so many missed chances after the plethora of picks Beane used for players that will sit in back up rolls (but hey they're good character guys so neato...

 

I no longer trust Beane. I've given up on McD getting this team to the promised land and know it will only happen under him if Josh carries everyone on his back BUT I've always thought Beane will do his best to get the right players around Josh in spite of McD favoring his pathetic d year after year. This was an epic fail on his part. I don't care about his or anyone's ego. Who cares if Diggs said Josh can't win without a #1 WR. Who cares if you want to prove your lackluster picks in previous drafts are going to work out (Justin Shorter). What I care about is the Buffalo Bills winning a Super Bowl. What I care about is putting as much talent around the best player this franchise ever had to give him the best chance to succeed. And my final point is...Josh Allen is very intelligent. You keep giving him the scraps and expecting him to superman it year in and year out, he will leave. We won't have anyone else to blame but ourselves because he won't say anything. It's not his job to say what he wants. It's the owner and FO's job to make the right decisions and they are failing miserably since the 13 second melt down. 

 

Hopefully KJ Hamler works out as the deep threat. Coleman seems like a good kid and will be a fun Higgins type. Shakir and Samuel will do a good job in the middle and Kincaid will get better year two. I just hope it's enough. Maybe one day we'll over do it on the offensive side of the ball like we over do the defense year in and year out without success. 

 

Go Bills 

 

I mean no offense, but I wouldn't consider the players on your list simply being Drafted as being a "hit". I think most of us who did work on these guys could tell that the guys who were Drafted were going to be Drafted somewhere. I would count the "hits" as players being taken where you placed them.

 

There's a disconnect between how you viewed a number of these prospects and how the league as a whole viewed them. A number of guys weren't Drafted near where you had them ranked - whether they were Drafted higher than you had them or lower than where you had them. 

 

Granted, teams have way more information than you and I do. Character, work ethic, and medical come into play just as much as the tape itself.

[NeverOutNick]

8 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

I mean no offense, but I wouldn't consider the players on your list simply being Drafted as being a "hit". I think most of us who did work on these guys could tell that the guys who were Drafted were going to be Drafted somewhere. I would count the "hits" as players being taken where you placed them.

 

There's a disconnect between how you viewed a number of these prospects and how the league as a whole viewed them. A number of guys weren't Drafted near where you had them ranked - whether they were Drafted higher than you had them or lower than where you had them. 

 

Granted, teams have way more information than you and I do. Character, work ethic, and medical come into play just as much as the tape itself.

No offense taken. I can only go off of film. Film showed there were a lot of really good WR prospects we passed on multiple times. Most years the list of potential WRs that can make a team better is much thinner. We went into the draft losing our #1 and #2 WR AND even if we had BOTH we would've needed a WR so leaving this loaded draft with only 1 WR, no matter if you agree with my assessments or not, is a fail