The Reliable Mainstream Media vs. The Alternative Scum

[Chaos]

2 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Stop thanking God for Elon Musk.

 

 

Thank God for Elon Musk. 

[The Frankish Reich]

1 minute ago, Chaos said:

Thank God for Elon Musk. 

I guess he'll meet you in hell.

49 minutes ago, US Egg said:

 

Pretty cool flag, I have to admit it. Doesn't mean anything, but cool tangle.

[Westside]

1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I guess he'll meet you in hell.

Pretty cool flag, I have to admit it. Doesn't mean anything, but cool tangle.

So you know who’s headed for hell? You really have lost all sense of reality. You belong in a mental institution. 

[JDHillFan]

53 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Some actual reporting, as in a reporter (from the dreaded mainstream media) making calls, visiting sites, talking to people, looking up public records. You know, the stuff that will now be fodder for all the Hot Take Machines that get quoted here, disparaging the MSM.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/14/us/politics/trump-gunman-thomas-crooks.html

Do you realize a fair chunk of this board’s railing on the MSM the last couple months has been with your clueless attachment of “reliable” in describing them? I notice you didn’t include that word in this post. 

[The Frankish Reich]

6 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Do you realize a fair chunk of this board’s railing on the MSM the last couple months has been with your clueless attachment of “reliable” in describing them? I notice you didn’t include that word in this post. 

What isn't "reliable" in the linked story?

I know people ridicule MSM headlines. (Note that the reporter doesn't write the headline.) And yes, there's an editorial bias.

But some reports are straight news. And the NYT and other major sources still have rules: do the digging, corroborate/fact check, etc. We actually saw that with the Wash Post Alito flag story - they looked into it a couple years ago, couldn't really find any clear link between the Justice and the decision to fly that flag, and they didn't run anything at the time.

Who is Julie Kelly's editor?

[ScotSHO]

8 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Do you realize a fair chunk of this board’s railing on the MSM the last couple months has been with your clueless attachment of “reliable” in describing them? I notice you didn’t include that word in this post. 

Only frankie does hollywood reich knows what Alternative media scum is.  Let him cook.

[JDHillFan]

18 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

What isn't "reliable" in the linked story?

I know people ridicule MSM headlines. (Note that the reporter doesn't write the headline.) And yes, there's an editorial bias.

But some reports are straight news. And the NYT and other major sources still have rules: do the digging, corroborate/fact check, etc. We actually saw that with the Wash Post Alito flag story - they looked into it a couple years ago, couldn't really find any clear link between the Justice and the decision to fly that flag, and they didn't run anything at the time.

Who is Julie Kelly's editor?

Look everyone, here’s a reliable article from the NYT!
 

Everyone gets a straight news story right more often than not. BFD. That’s their job. As a partisan, you appear unable to notice when the “reliable” straight news takes on a strong blue tint - reliably so. It’s what had the straight news stories trying to convince people (and succeeding with you) that Biden was mentally fit right up until the debate. 

[The Frankish Reich]

1 minute ago, JDHillFan said:

Look everyone, here’s a reliable article from the NYT!
 

Everyone gets a straight news story right more often than not. BFD. That’s their job. As a partisan, you appear unable to notice when the “reliable” straight news takes on a strong blue tint - reliably so. It’s what had the straight news stories trying to convince people (and succeeding with you) that Biden was mentally fit right up until the debate. 

Go back to you Julie Kelly feed. Julie is always 100% fact-checked by her editors.

[Westside]

1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Go back to you Julie Kelly feed. Julie is always 100% fact-checked by her editors.

She’s a helluva lot more reliable than the lame stream media. My condolences you’re not bright enough to tell the difference.

[JDHillFan]

Just now, The Frankish Reich said:

Go back to you Julie Kelly feed. Julie is always 100% fact-checked by her editors.

That hurts. This is a time for healing. 
 

I’m not really a JK fan but thank you anyway. 
 

You have great faith in the 4th estate. Good for you. 

[The Frankish Reich]

3 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

That hurts. This is a time for healing. 
 

I’m not really a JK fan but thank you anyway. 
 

You have great faith in the 4th estate. Good for you. 

You know where you're getting your news now?

From the MSM. They're actually reporting it.

But you get it through the filter of some blowhard on social media, which apparently makes you and your ilk some kind of rebel truth-tellers.

To me it makes you a lazy ass.

[JDHillFan]

7 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

You know where you're getting your news now?

From the MSM. They're actually reporting it.

But you get it through the filter of some blowhard on social media, which apparently makes you and your ilk some kind of rebel truth-tellers.

To me it makes you a lazy ass.

Seems like you are getting a little testy banging that reliable MSM drum. Nobody is telling you not to lap up the reliable journalists telling you what you want to hear. Are they the ones responsible for your “Biden is mentally fit” thoughts? If not, how in the hell did you arrive there as recently as four weeks ago?
 

Do you really know where I get my news? Rhetorical question. 

[The Frankish Reich]

Just now, JDHillFan said:

Do you really know where I get my news? Rhetorical question. 

Given your rather, umm, frenetic activity here lately (check the leading posters this month), I've gotta assume you get your news from only the best source: the only guy ahead of you on the leaderboard.

[JDHillFan]

5 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Given your rather, umm, frenetic activity here lately (check the leading posters this month), I've gotta assume you get your news from only the best source: the only guy ahead of you on the leaderboard.

I’m bored. Apologies to all for the excessive posts. They have reached frenetic level and that is unacceptable. A special thanks to Frankish who took a moment out of his posting day to check the scoreboard. 
 

edit - I only know how to view the posting frequency in a single thread. Very disappointed to find myself behind Frankish in this one. Something to strive for. Can anyone send a pm and tell me how to see the overall posting numbers?

Edited July 14, 2024 by JDHillFan

[BillsFanNC]

Finding: Julie Kelly waaah!!

 

Also Finding: Wrote the OP and title of this thread and hit enter.

 

 

Edited July 14, 2024 by BillsFanNC

[BillsFanNC]

 

[Orlando Buffalo]

3 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Some actual reporting, as in a reporter (from the dreaded mainstream media) making calls, visiting sites, talking to people, looking up public records. You know, the stuff that will now be fodder for all the Hot Take Machines that get quoted here, disparaging the MSM.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/14/us/politics/trump-gunman-thomas-crooks.html

Are you trying to argue the MSM was more accurate yesterday? At 740 pm yesterday on the radio NBC was still running the idea that a loud noise was what prompted the Trump reaction. Through Twitter my son had already seen the video of the shots around 7 pm. Let this concept die the MSM is hot garbage, it can be fixed but it is a long way from it. 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[Taro T]

On 7/5/2024 at 1:24 PM, BillsFanNC said:

🎯

 

The Media is Not Doing its Job

@chamath breaks down the viral "sharp as a tack" clip:

 

"Six minutes of 100 spokespeople and proxies, and they all had the same thing to say about President Biden, which is, 'He is sharp as a tack.'"

 

"If I asked 100 people on the street, 'What do you think of @elonmusk?' You'd have 100 different statements. There be a general theme, but you would not have even 50 people repeat the exact same words."

 

"You have this funny situation where 100 different people were basically saying the exact same talking point.

 

So it's not even a point of view. It was just something that they were told to say by somebody else."

 

"And that is the real issue: you don't really have an honest media here. So there is no check and balance on power right now."

 

 

 

 

Hopefully all the events of these past couple of weeks will get people to realize it isn't that the MSM is truthful or not and that it isn't whether the "alternative" media is truthful or not.  It's that this isn't Walter Cronkite's media or even Tim Russert's media anymore.  None of them see themselves as needing to speak hard truth and ask hard questions of ALL politicians.  (Well, almost none of them.  Catherine Herridge and a few others will investigate a story regardless of where it takes them, but those are few and far between.)  They now have their own favorite politicians and they will try to carry water for them and they'll be tough on politicians that are opponents of their favorites.  (And this goes for bureaucrats as well.)  

 

You just have to understand who each is running interference for:  FOX - RNC; CNN - DNC; MSNBC - progressive D's; OAN - Trump wing of R's; NYT - State Department; WAPO - IC; WSJ - RNC.  Etc, etc.

 

Listen to whomever you want, but understand they're going to slant the news to best serve their OWN interests.  If the reporters of today were around in biblical times, when Jesus hopped out of the fishing boat and walked to shore there would've been 2 primary stories: 1.  Jesus walks on water; and 2.  Jesus can't swim.  They're both ostensibly true, but the reader of one's reporting gets a better understanding of the event than the reader of the other's reporting.

 

And, a LOT of times, you can find the primary sources that were the basis of the articles.  Track them down yourself and reach your own conclusion of what just happened.

 

And when you catch them in a lie, ask yourself, what else might they have been lying about.  Check out the stories from multiple angles and realize sometimes one or the other is telling the truth and the other is lying; but a lot of the time, the truth lies somewhere inbetween.  Except of course when 90% of them are all using the EXACT SAME WORDS, it which case you have a pretty good idea of what ISN'T the truth.

Edited July 14, 2024 by Taro T
Added 1 final point.

[B-Man]