Draconator Posted April 25 Posted April 25 20 minutes ago, Virgil said: Did we do it yet? Did we win the draft? Have you read this thread? We're finishing last in the division. 1
Logic Posted April 25 Author Posted April 25 15 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: I know people love their lottery tickets (draft picks), and it appears this site has no shortage of them. But, personally I'd love to watch Josh throwing to a group of receivers led by this dude. Sorry all you fill ever depth spot needers, sometimes you go big or go home. A true daily double may be what it takes to have an offense that gets it done in the playoffs. This is the last time I'll say this for a while, after having said it a thousand times this offseason: I'm sick of no other difference makers stepping up for the Bills in big playoff moments. I'm sick of the Bills hitting singles and doubles in the draft, but never home runs. I'm ready to swing for the fences and try to add a potential superstar to this team. I'm ready to see Rome Odunze catch a toe-tapping, game winning touchdown to beat the Chiefs and advance to the AFCCG, and I don't mind losing out on a safety and a couple backup d-linemen in order to make it happen. I know I won't win any new converts to my way of thinking, but I'm not feeling at all risk averse this year. Bring on the risk. Bring on a blue chipper. Let's do this thing. 12 2 1
HeHateMe Posted April 25 Posted April 25 I think Beane remembers what it was like to only have Cole Beasley and John Brown and knows you need a stud out there to just be a difference maker.. Diggs while great in the regular season, did not perform when it mattered in the playoffs. I think BTJ would fit in perfectly with this team and play to Josh's strengths.. 1
BillsFan130 Posted April 25 Posted April 25 19 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: I know people love their lottery tickets (draft picks), and it appears this site has no shortage of them. But, personally I'd love to watch Josh throwing to a group of receivers led by this dude. Sorry all you fill ever depth spot needers, sometimes you go big or go home. A true daily double may be what it takes to have an offense that gets it done in the playoffs. Yep. Bills don't have enough elite talent on this team. A lot of good players, but not elite players outside of Josh. If beane thinks Odunze or Nabers is gonna be a pro bowler for the next 5-8 years, go get him 4 1 1
Maynard Posted April 25 Posted April 25 26 minutes ago, Special K said: I really like the "Big 3" WR's......especially Odunze, but giving up 28, 60, next year's 1st and 2nd to do it is a tough pill to swallow. For Odunze, I’d do it in a heartbeat. He’s a special dude. 1
Big Blitz Posted April 25 Posted April 25 1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said: Yep. Bills don't have enough elite talent on this team. A lot of good players, but not elite players outside of Josh. If beane thinks Odunze or Nabers is gonna be a pro bowler for the next 5-8 years, go get him It will cost next years first and both seconds. And probably pick 60 in this draft. When you are retooling like we are I’m not sure you SHOULD do that. But if you’re the Bears at 9 - do you do that? Maybe. But I doubt it.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 25 Posted April 25 8 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: Yep. Bills don't have enough elite talent on this team. A lot of good players, but not elite players outside of Josh. If beane thinks Odunze or Nabers is gonna be a pro bowler for the next 5-8 years, go get him It’s always been that way believe it or not.
Saint Doug Posted April 25 Posted April 25 (edited) 6 hours ago, BarleyNY said: That isn’t what he is saying. He’s saying that you draft players for what they can provide over at least the next four years, not just in season one. Basically draft for the long term, not short term. That’s what smart teams do. The first sentence is saying you should not draft based on need, but you should get that in a FA. Then are you saying that you really didn’t “need” that player that has been providing their service for the last 4 years? It’s the first sentence that is the horrible take. You obviously need to draft based on need. Beane does it with his 1st/2nd round picks each year. Is he wrong? Edited April 25 by Saint Doug
Sweats Posted April 25 Posted April 25 3 hours ago, GoBills808 said: your contributions are noted Oh, i've added some real dandy's 1
Buffalo4Life01 Posted April 25 Posted April 25 3 minutes ago, Sweats said: Oh, i've added some real dandy's no, you most certainly have not. that said, Go Bills!!!
fergie's ire Posted April 25 Posted April 25 13 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: It will cost next years first and both seconds. And probably pick 60 in this draft. When you are retooling like we are I’m not sure you SHOULD do that. But if you’re the Bears at 9 - do you do that? Maybe. But I doubt it. Until recently, I had been in the "take who's there or even move back and increase chances of a hit by picking multiple receivers." However, I am starting to come around on the swing for the fences idea. Next year's first and second sounds like a lot, but here's what is making it an easier pill for me to swallow. If you think, as I do, that Minnesota is gonna stink this year, you can hang on to their second and give away ours. That means that if you factor in what we got for Diggs, we are only moving back a few spots. Also, because we have taken on Diggs' cap hit this year, it should free up some money to use to fill a hole or two next year (like signing a center or safety). I think we'd be okay giving up those high picks. Number 60 is tough though, particularly considering we got hosed by the NFL on what we thought was going to be a third round comp pick. 1
Putin Posted April 25 Posted April 25 44 minutes ago, BeastMaster said: No pick is guaranteed to be a starter Picks are just more lottery tickets If you believe you can trade a few in for the best shot at the best prize, then maybe it's worth it. Not saying I am for it or against it, but I can see why a team might make the move To give up that many picks for a WR says that our roster is pretty much set at every position , and all we need is a stud WR to put you over the top , I wish that was the case but we all know that’s true
Beck Water Posted April 25 Posted April 25 1 hour ago, Monty98 said: Who did we draft in 2015...I wish I knew we could trade previous bad picks away! Damnnn aha. No 1st round (traded for Sammy Watkins prior year) - can we get that one back? 2nd round Ronald Darby - Beane and McDermott traded him away for Jordan Matthews and a 2018 3rd rounder - he is actually a pretty decent player, has struggled with injuries (2 ACLs and a hip) but played for the Ravens last season and just signed a 2-year with Jax, still in the league 3rd round John Miller - we moved on from him after 2018, but I lean towards Juan Castillo was more the problem - he went on to start for the Bengals and Panthers before hanging up his cleats in 2022, which is OK mileage for a 3rd rounder The rest of that draft - Yikes! and Yowza, yeah, if we could trade them away that's be good.
Big Blitz Posted April 25 Posted April 25 1 minute ago, fergie's ire said: Until recently, I had been in the "take who's there or even move back and increase chances of a hit by picking multiple receivers." However, I am starting to come around on the swing for the fences idea. Next year's first and second sounds like a lot, but here's what is making it an easier pill for me to swallow. If you think, as I do, that Minnesota is gonna stink this year, you can hang on to their second and give away ours. That means that if you factor in what we got for Diggs, we are only moving back a few spots. Also, because we have taken on Diggs' cap hit this year, it should free up some money to use to fill a hole or two next year (like signing a center or safety). I think we'd be okay giving up those high picks. Number 60 is tough though, particularly considering we got hosed by the NFL on what we thought was going to be a third round comp pick. I’m saying it’s going to cost both seconds next year. They know our pick could be 55-64 range. It’s going to cost 4-5 high picks to get to 9. And we won’t see a first or second round pick again until 2026 barring trading in.
Sweats Posted April 25 Posted April 25 22 minutes ago, Logic said: This is the last time I'll say this for a while, after having said it a thousand times this offseason: I'm sick of no other difference makers stepping up for the Bills in big playoff moments. I'm sick of the Bills hitting singles and doubles in the draft, but never home runs. I'm ready to swing for the fences and try to add a potential superstar to this team. I'm ready to see Rome Odunze catch a toe-tapping, game winning touchdown to beat the Chiefs and advance to the AFCCG, and I don't mind losing out on a safety and a couple backup d-linemen in order to make it happen. I know I won't win any new converts to my way of thinking, but I'm not feeling at all risk averse this year. Bring on the risk. Bring on a blue chipper. Let's do this thing. You know, i was the biggest supporter of just letting the board fall to us and see what's left, but i'm leaning towards swinging for the fences this year. I mean, what we've been doing hasn't been working to get us over the hump, so let's try something different. Here's what i'm thinking.......i think i would rather swing for the fences or swing for that homerun and have a miss, than not swing at all or just go after middle of the road, mediocre and take no step forward in the team's progression. Stagnant is stagnant, no matter how you cut it. We gotta elevate this team to the next level and that's why i'm kind of leaning a little more to making a splash this draft. 4 1
Beck Water Posted April 25 Posted April 25 30 minutes ago, HeHateMe said: I think Beane remembers what it was like to only have Cole Beasley and John Brown and knows you need a stud out there to just be a difference maker.. Diggs while great in the regular season, did not perform when it mattered in the playoffs. I think BTJ would fit in perfectly with this team and play to Josh's strengths.. I hope Beane remembers that.
EmotionallyUnstable Posted April 25 Posted April 25 Let’s gooooo Sell it all baby!!!! MHJ to the Bills!!!!
Draconator Posted April 25 Posted April 25 I want Beane to be aggressive in this draft and move up to the top 10. I figured I also need to be aggressive to send waves of support to Big Baller Beane. Therefore, I am drinking an Apple Crisp Mead. 1
JROC INTEL Posted April 25 Posted April 25 I would be happy with legette, or worthy. I see a lot more in these guys than I do in btj or ad mitchell.
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