jkeerie Posted April 25 Posted April 25 2 hours ago, dave mcbride said: There are zero trades in Jeremiah’s draft, which is ridiculous and an indicator to me that a person doesn’t have the courage of his own convictions. It is a day before the draft — project trades, which ALWAYS happen. That may be so, but...how many times are there multiple trades expected in drafts and instead, teams stand pat and let the draft fall to them? This draft will likely be different because of the QB needy teams and the number of QBs that legitimately could go in the first round. We've all been disappointed before though with being provided less excitement. 1
Dr. Who Posted April 25 Posted April 25 18 minutes ago, MDH said: Which is why if one of the top 4 or so guys at edge are there in the 1st the Bills should seriously consider taking one as one of the plethora of WRs will still be around in round 2. Taking advantage of the depth of the WR class means you don't HAVE to take one in the 1st. Yes, you know, I've heard this argument a number of times over the last few months. Turner and Verse will be gone for sure. Latu if he falls because of injury concerns, and Robinson. I'm not sure who else you would consider. I just don't like Robinson. I wouldn't take him at 28. If I didn't like a WR there (well, I'm pretty sure I would), but if I didn't I would rather try and trade back. Latu is the only fella I think you should consider if you are okay with the medicals. I think someone will take him before 28. And then, I think they need a big X and a Z, so I want two WRs early if I can find value there. So the depth at WR to me means maybe I can get two early. I know you think differently, and you're welcome to have your own views, of course. I've already apologized to my TV for the breakage that will happen if Robinson is the pick. 1
ndirish1978 Posted April 25 Posted April 25 1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said: What’s your plan to improve the pass rush ? This draft is very skinny at edge after the Top 3 who will be long gone at 28 Hendrickson is demanding a trade, just sayin...
Thrivefourfive Posted April 25 Posted April 25 25 minutes ago, jahnyc said: Seems like Odunze wants to go to Chicago to join Williams. Not sure if Chicago is planning to draft him at #9, but if we really want him, probably need to move in front of the Bears if he would otherwise be there at their pick. I don't think we will be able to pull this off, but I hope I am surprised tomorrow evening. If this does happen, I also hope that Odunze will be excited and appreciative. The Bears shouldn’t give a flying **** where Odunze wants to play.
HurlyBurly51 Posted April 25 Posted April 25 34 minutes ago, jahnyc said: Seems like Odunze wants to go to Chicago to join Williams. Not sure if Chicago is planning to draft him at #9, but if we really want him, probably need to move in front of the Bears if he would otherwise be there at their pick. I don't think we will be able to pull this off, but I hope I am surprised tomorrow evening. If this does happen, I also hope that Odunze will be excited and appreciative. Well he did just have a workout with Caleb Williams, DJ Moore, and Keenan Allen.
Thrivefourfive Posted April 25 Posted April 25 15 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said: Well he did just have a workout with Caleb Williams, DJ Moore, and Keenan Allen. Just appraising the players’ egos, telling the league that teams need to trade up if they want Odunze. They have plenty of WR to start Williams’s career. They need to protect him much more than adding Odunze to that WR corps. 1 1
Buffalo Ballin Posted April 25 Posted April 25 20 hours ago, wppete said: I get Sammy Watkins vibes from MHJ. Id rather have Nabers. I don't see how Marvin Harrison Jr. is just as great as his old man, the OG Marvin Harrison. Shaking my head. I don't get it. I have never seen the son surpassing the father WHEN the father is already top tier. The son would be lucky just to be in the same tier as his dad. I don't care how these scouts and Youtubers are selling MHJ. I rather have Nabers, too. 1 3
JimBob2232 Posted April 25 Posted April 25 28 is such a hard spot the more I look at this. Top WRs will be gone. At best we’re looking at one of Chop (exciting player - good value, but doesn’t instantly make this team better), (Latu many teams have passed over) and Cooper DeJean (similar to chop in that it’s not a huge immediate upgrade). And no guarantees any of them will even make it to 28. So at the end of the day I think we either need to move up to get a WR, or move down and pick up a 2nd 2nd and a 3rd. Then grab 2 WRs with those 3 picks.
TheBeaneBandit Posted April 25 Posted April 25 7 hours ago, Thrivefourfive said: Sims’s final mock has Rom’a’Dunzé going to BUF. I like, if we can’t get Nabers or MHJ. I’m looking at the draft board and I honestly see a lot of teams who would be better off not taking the Big 3. Harbaugh is bringing back bully ball, and he’s taking Alt. You’ll all see. He’s coming in hot. To me, the scariest threat that we don’t talk about yet. We will. Bolts. The Giants have no quarterback, and you don’t start off with a top WR in wasteland for the foreseeable future. They take Latham. Atlanta, if they get the pick, should be building incrementally on both sides of ball. They have Cousins to throw to London, Pitts, Bijan, holds down the fort.. they can strike on the defensive side right now. Why is everyone behaving like the Jets don’t have enough weapons?? Rodgers is there to make everyone better.. why is the narrative now that Rodgers needs more weapons more weapons more weapons? He has enough. Jesus, you’d think he was a liability like Manning’s last year. 😡 The Bears would be so foolish to take a WR at 9. Rookie QB, see what he has.. to do that, he needs time to throw. OLine. Then you can add a WR that Williams can guide how to play with him. Raiders QB. Saints maybe. Colts… why? They still have JT? And Richardson,, again, right now, he’s a runner. Colts have no idea if he can even throw in the NFL. Don’t waste a WR until you know for sure. Seattle no - screams defense. Jacksonville YES, WR. Am I crazy? Harbaugh is bringing back bully ball😂😆🤣This ain't college where you can just outrecruit everyone. That's gonna be a tall ass order. 1
BananaB Posted April 25 Posted April 25 (edited) 11 hours ago, Beck Water said: I would tell Dan Orlovsky, I would like to understand how he is defining "failure/disappointment" because I don't think he's telling us straight. Kadarius Toney, Henry Ruggs, and N'Keal Harry certainly failures, but what about Dante Pettis? Jaelen Reagor? Rashad Bateman? What about Jameson Williams? Then there are guys who are can play, but maybe just aren't contributing at the level you'd like from a 1st rounder. Then what about the fact that in many of those years, one or more 2nd round picks are out-performing the 1st rounders? Questions, so many questions. Raeger has been on 3 teams so far. Pretty safe to say he has been a failure. Edited April 25 by BananaB
MrEpsYtown Posted April 25 Posted April 25 8 hours ago, NeverOutNick said: Loved it and then I saw AD Mitchell go to KC at 32 😒 It’s so true. I had the same thoughts. I have kind of come to terms with the fact that both Buffalo and KC are going to take WR and whatever happens we will probably be left wondering if KC got the better guy. It sucks, but when we continue to pick in close proximity and have similar needs, it just is what it is at this point. 1
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 25 Posted April 25 If we don’t get Odunze, I want Worthy and Javon Baker.
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 25 Posted April 25 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: If we don’t get Odunze, I want Worthy and Javon Baker. That would be nice but I can’t see Beane doing that. McDermott will get a defensive player with one of the first two picks I’d imagine
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 25 Posted April 25 44 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Harbaugh is bringing back bully ball😂😆🤣This ain't college where you can just outrecruit everyone. That's gonna be a tall ass order. Sure it is. And much like college, recruiting is done in the NFL with a checkbook. Key is having an owner that isn't afraid to spend money.
section122 Posted April 25 Posted April 25 1 hour ago, Buffalo Ballin said: I don't see how Marvin Harrison Jr. is just as great as his old man, the OG Marvin Harrison. Shaking my head. I don't get it. I have never seen the son surpassing the father WHEN the father is already top tier. The son would be lucky just to be in the same tier as his dad. I don't care how these scouts and Youtubers are selling MHJ. I rather have Nabers, too. Archie and peyton manning? Clay and clay mathews? Only 2 I can think of.
finn Posted April 25 Posted April 25 1 hour ago, JimBob2232 said: 28 is such a hard spot the more I look at this. Top WRs will be gone. At best we’re looking at one of Chop (exciting player - good value, but doesn’t instantly make this team better), (Latu many teams have passed over) and Cooper DeJean (similar to chop in that it’s not a huge immediate upgrade). And no guarantees any of them will even make it to 28. So at the end of the day I think we either need to move up to get a WR, or move down and pick up a 2nd 2nd and a 3rd. Then grab 2 WRs with those 3 picks. This read sounds about right to me. Could be a surprise in there like someone falling, but it's unlikely. I prefer a Kinchens and Worthy in the second and an X WR in the third (from the trade down) to giving up more than we've been discussing here for Thomas. It's not fun, but we need bodies. DeJean in the second would be great, worth giving up a fourth.
aristocrat Posted April 25 Posted April 25 Beane better have some great contacts to figure out just how high he needs to go to get BTJ 1
SectionC3 Posted April 25 Posted April 25 (edited) 13 minutes ago, section122 said: Archie and peyton manning? Clay and clay mathews? Only 2 I can think of. Just off the top of my head - Luck Hasselbeck (Matt) Tatupu Edmunds (Tremaine) Heyward Edited April 25 by SectionC3
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 25 Posted April 25 9 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Beane better have some great contacts to figure out just how high he needs to go to get BTJ Those contacts failed him last year.
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted April 25 Posted April 25 1 hour ago, Buffalo Ballin said: I don't see how Marvin Harrison Jr. is just as great as his old man, the OG Marvin Harrison. Shaking my head. I don't get it. I have never seen the son surpassing the father WHEN the father is already top tier. The son would be lucky just to be in the same tier as his dad. I don't care how these scouts and Youtubers are selling MHJ. I rather have Nabers, too. Christian McCaffrey…son of Ed McCaffrey who was also a stud WR, but I’d say Christian has surpassed his dad already imho 2 1
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