TheWeatherMan Posted April 24 Posted April 24 1 minute ago, OldTimer1960 said: I’m talking about not trading two 1st plus for 1 WR. I don’t disagree that receivers have become more important, but I still don’t agree that defense doesn’t matter - especially pass rush and DBs You’re right! We should stick with what has worked. I’m all on board for staying at 28 and drafting the best defensive player available. Our defense is what carries us every year, especially in the playoffs vs the Chiefs! 1 1 2 3
BillsFan130 Posted April 24 Posted April 24 59 minutes ago, BabyBills said: The Saints, which had meaningful OT concerns to start with, just saw their LG retire. I wonder if this is the straw that broke the camel's back and they revert from being very aggressive in the draft to wanting to trade back. If so, they could be an interesting spot to get to. Are they like 14ish? Would you trade that much capital for Brian Thomas? As I would assume the big 3 WRs would be well gone by then. Personally I hope bills move into early 20s and draft BT, 14-16 may be a bit rich IMO
julian Posted April 24 Posted April 24 40 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: You’re right! We should stick with what has worked. I’m all on board for staying at 28 and drafting the best defensive player available. Our defense is what carries us every year, especially in the playoffs vs the Chiefs! That’s how the old timers think 1
OldTimer1960 Posted April 24 Posted April 24 30 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: You’re right! We should stick with what has worked. I’m all on board for staying at 28 and drafting the best defensive player available. Our defense is what carries us every year, especially in the playoffs vs the Chiefs! I understand the sarcasm, but it isn’t rational to say “they had a good defense and fell just short, so defense doesn’t matter “. I would note that the two Super Bowl teams had outstanding defenses and the winner didn’t exactly have the best group of receivers. 2
njbuff Posted April 24 Posted April 24 46 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: You’re right! We should stick with what has worked. I’m all on board for staying at 28 and drafting the best defensive player available. Our defense is what carries us every year, especially in the playoffs vs the Chiefs! Well, the Bills D has a built in excuse for their latest failure against the Chiefs in the playoffs. 😁 1
Gregg Posted April 24 Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: I understand the sarcasm, but it isn’t rational to say “they had a good defense and fell just short, so defense doesn’t matter “. I would note that the two Super Bowl teams had outstanding defenses and the winner didn’t exactly have the best group of receivers. This is true but the winner has arguably the greatest TE to ever play the game and a true game changer for Mahomes to rely on. With Diggs in Houston the Bills need a #1 WR to help take the pressure of Kincaid and give Allen another weapon to work with. 1
The Jokeman Posted April 24 Posted April 24 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Gregg said: This is true but the winner has arguably the greatest TE to ever play the game and a true game changer for Mahomes to rely on. With Diggs in Houston the Bills need a #1 WR to help take the pressure of Kincaid and give Allen another weapon to work with. And you think it's realistic for a rookie to immediately step into that role as a #1? Even if we got a chance of one of top 3 that's a big expectation. Edited April 24 by The Jokeman 1
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted April 24 Posted April 24 6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Advanced Muppet philosophy..
Green Lightning Posted April 24 Posted April 24 14 minutes ago, julian said: That’s how the old timers think Need to check your sarcasm meter. 1
Beck Water Posted April 24 Posted April 24 2 hours ago, Mikey152 said: To clarify... Legal formation only requires that 7 players are on the LOS (behind ball and infront of centers belt) at the time the ball is snapped. The furthest from the ball (the end) on either side are eligible receivers...hence tight and split end. Everyone else is a back and doesn't have to be on the line and doesn't need to reset after motion. So if you have two TE in the game, and they both line up on the line...the rest of your eligible receivers don't have to. They can be anywhere on the LOS, so long as it is opposite sides. It's the beauty of the two TE look. Now I have posters saying Kincaid can't play TE? He's just a big slot? Then he was a waste of a pick...I also think that's a trash opinion, but whatever. Kincaid OL OL OL OL OL Knox Samuel Josh Shakir Cook Is a legal formation I think you're kind of missing the point, but I don't have energy to work on this, sorry!
Buffalo03 Posted April 24 Posted April 24 1 hour ago, Augie said: We won’t have any draft picks until he’s on his second contract. 😋 Um. No
Beck Water Posted April 24 Posted April 24 34 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: Are they like 14ish? Would you trade that much capital for Brian Thomas? As I would assume the big 3 WRs would be well gone by then. Personally I hope bills move into early 20s and draft BT, 14-16 may be a bit rich IMO Yeah, the Saints have the 14th pick One thing I'm pretty certain of is that the draft seldom goes the way we expect it to. Seems to me in 2018 we had people saying like, the first 5 or 6 picks would all be QBs Well, they weren't 1
julian Posted April 24 Posted April 24 1 minute ago, Green Lightning said: Need to check your sarcasm meter. lol I think you need to check yours lol.. the old ricochet sarcasm, I love it lol
Gregg Posted April 24 Posted April 24 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: And you think it's realistic for a rookie to immediately step into that role as a #1? Even if we got a chance of one of top 3 that's a big expectation. You never know. Some WR's dominate right away. Take Garrett Wilson for example and he didn't have a QB. I am guessing the Bills passing game will revolve around Kincaid now anyway. The Bills will need a #1 WR. I bet no matter who they get they will have a good year with Allen as their QB.
Green Lightning Posted April 24 Posted April 24 Just now, julian said: lol I think you need to check yours lol.. the old ricochet sarcasm, I love it lol Got it. Now I have to think about how many ricochets is it good for!
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted April 24 Posted April 24 2 hours ago, Roundybout said: Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes A few draft picks will be sufficient.
TheBeaneBandit Posted April 24 Posted April 24 14 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: I understand the sarcasm, but it isn’t rational to say “they had a good defense and fell just short, so defense doesn’t matter “. I would note that the two Super Bowl teams had outstanding defenses and the winner didn’t exactly have the best group of receivers. Yes but there are simply not any prospects to help raise this D to that level in this draft. Besides maybe a rotational d lineman and a safety to groom this is the year to hit offense hard. Next year they can double team the defense with free agents and the draft.
The Jokeman Posted April 24 Posted April 24 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Gregg said: You never know. Some WR's dominate right away. Take Garrett Wilson for example and he didn't have a QB. I am guessing the Bills passing game will revolve around Kincaid now anyway. The Bills will need a #1 WR. I bet no matter who they get they will have a good year with Allen as their QB. Wilson also didn't compete with a Kincaid for targets or a Shakir or Samuel or Cooks. More than not WR who have great rookie stats are guys who are the only guy to throw to. I mean Nijigma-Smith was the 3rd WR on depth chart but didn't put up the numbers that Zay Flowers did. Was it a lack of skill or opportunity? Honestly any rookie that comes in is likely not.going to get the 160 targets Diggs got no matter how good a project they are. I fully expect our rookie WR to get between 80-100 targets at best. I want a big X like most but know that no matter who we draft he likely be 3rd or 4th best pass catcher we have in 2024. Edited April 24 by The Jokeman
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