LabattBlue Posted April 23 Posted April 23 I am all for McConkey over any one trick pony vertical threat at 28. Go get the deep threat boundary guy in round 2, 4 or 5. Quote
Beast Posted April 23 Posted April 23 I’m taking McConkey all day. His toolbox has more tools. 1 Quote
Virgil Posted April 23 Posted April 23 31 minutes ago, dpberr said: You take the receiver with the superior route running intelligence and ability. That's the difference maker in the NFL. That's McConkey here. To me, that's Franklin all day. Watch his tape, dude lines up everywhere and runs every route. He had some drop issues, which is a concern for me as well, but if he didn't, I think we are talking about a top 5 receiver class 1 1 Quote
K D Posted April 23 Posted April 23 It depends on what you want. Do you want another small slot guy or do you want a big strong blocking guy? Or do you get someone like AD Mitchell to play the Diggs role? I like McConkey but I think we already have some McConkey's on the team and we need a Gabe or Diggs replacement 3 Quote
Brandon Posted April 23 Posted April 23 3 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: See I like McConkey and I think he will be successful. And I don't have a problem with drafting him. But I do have trouble with him in round 1. Like he is small. He isn't tiny, but he is small. I guess my biggest issue is that he wasn't insanely productive in college, his best season was 762 yards. I do think he will be a better pro and I think he helps, but he isn't the real answer. I'm down with him as a "second guy." I think the production issue is valid and it's something the Bills would have to look into. Is it more about McConkey or Georgia's offensive system? Also, were they limiting him to some degree since he had some nagging injuries? I don't know. 1 Quote
Beast Posted April 23 Posted April 23 (edited) 2 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: It depends on what you want. Do you want another small slot guy or do you want a big strong blocking guy? Or do you get someone like AD Mitchell to play the Diggs role? I like McConkey but I think we already have some McConkey's on the team and we need a Gabe or Diggs replacement And, IMO, McConkey is about as close to a skill set to Diggs as there is. Size, route running, and McConkey is a bit faster. Edited April 23 by Beast 3 Quote
NastyNateSoldiers Posted April 23 Posted April 23 1 hour ago, MarlinTheMagician said: Curious - if you had to chose between Legette and McConkey at 28 -- who do you take? Personally I take McConkey (but I really like Legette too). My thinking is -- McConkey is may be the best separator in the draft. If a receiver can separate Josh will find him (as he found Beasly). After Harrison and Odumze, other than Legette, there are not big-bodied X's I truly love. I like Thomas, but I assume he is gone (and he is not really a size match-up problem). I don't trust Mitchell or Franklin, do not like Coleman or Walker. I would take McConkey and be sure to get Brendan Rice later. While he has some limitations, all scouting reports seem to say that the 6'4" Rice has elite acceleration and can really take the top off. Having an X that can do that would be great. Shakir and McConkey can be really strong mixed through as the Z and slot. Both of them can get deep as well. Personally, I would take McConkey, Defense at 60, move up from 128 to get Rice and spend the rest of my picks on defense (save maybe an IOL and very late RB (like pick 248)). Thoughts? McConkey never had more then 40 catches and 750yds in college u sure u want him? 1 hour ago, MarlinTheMagician said: Curious - if you had to chose between Legette and McConkey at 28 -- who do you take? Personally I take McConkey (but I really like Legette too). My thinking is -- McConkey is may be the best separator in the draft. If a receiver can separate Josh will find him (as he found Beasly). After Harrison and Odumze, other than Legette, there are not big-bodied X's I truly love. I like Thomas, but I assume he is gone (and he is not really a size match-up problem). I don't trust Mitchell or Franklin, do not like Coleman or Walker. I would take McConkey and be sure to get Brendan Rice later. While he has some limitations, all scouting reports seem to say that the 6'4" Rice has elite acceleration and can really take the top off. Having an X that can do that would be great. Shakir and McConkey can be really strong mixed through as the Z and slot. Both of them can get deep as well. Personally, I would take McConkey, Defense at 60, move up from 128 to get Rice and spend the rest of my picks on defense (save maybe an IOL and very late RB (like pick 248)). Thoughts? I rather do the same thing your proposing but take a Combo of Xaxier Leggette and Malik Washington. Much better combo in my opinion for same pks Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 23 Posted April 23 I’m not a big fan of Legette. Stiff route runner. Quote
Brandon Posted April 23 Posted April 23 2 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: It depends on what you want. Do you want another small slot guy or do you want a big strong blocking guy? Or do you get someone like AD Mitchell to play the Diggs role? I like McConkey but I think we already have some McConkey's on the team and we need a Gabe or Diggs replacement IMO, McConkey is not a slot guy, though he'll probably play there some. He's about the same size as Diggs, actually, maybe a little lighter. He's also bigger than many of the high round WR prospects they've brought in over the last two or three years. I don't think the Bills are as concerned over size at WR. 1 Quote
34-78-83 Posted April 23 Posted April 23 (edited) Many people are underselling XL because of what they've parroted from other people, and that's fine. I also suspect the "intellect concerns" could wrongly be tied to something as silly as him having a strong southern dialect. A one trick pony he is NOT. Watch the all-snaps video. Anyway, 1st round picks are for athletic traits and upside in my opinion. I do think LM is going to be a reliable, consistent separator and fine player and would be happy to get him as well, just not my preference. If he is part of a "double dip" at WR I'd be ecstatic. I am not one of those "this guy is great, so this other guy sucks" people that are so common on forums. Edited April 23 by 34-78-83 1 Quote
K D Posted April 23 Posted April 23 5 minutes ago, Beast said: And, IMO, McConkey is about as close to a skill set to Diggs as there is. Size, route running, and McConkey is a bit faster. I think a big knock on McConkey was his ability to fight through man coverage at the line. Thus he would play more in the slot at the next level. If you are playing the Diggs role then you are out there on an island and you need to be able to get off the line. I think he's best served in the slot. But agree to disagree 1 Quote
BillsFan2313 Posted April 23 Posted April 23 (edited) We have enough McConkeys. Leggette over McConkey for me Edited April 23 by BillsFan2313 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 23 Posted April 23 2 minutes ago, BillsFan2313 said: We have enough McConkeys. Leggette over McConkey for me I don’t think we have any McConkeys. But I like other WRs better. McConkey is a smooth route runner and separator. I wish he had longer arms. Quote
The Jokeman Posted April 23 Posted April 23 Legette is my 3rd realistic guy after top 3. As like Thomas Jr., Mitchell and Legette. As to me his size/speed separates him from the McConkleys Persall and Worthy to be a WR1 Yet if we wait or trade down can see taking a Franklin or Baker or Walker as WR2 guys that can play on the outside. 1 Quote
Brandon Posted April 23 Posted April 23 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Beast said: And, IMO, McConkey is about as close to a skill set to Diggs as there is. Size, route running, and McConkey is a bit faster. That's kind of where I'm at on McConkey. I'm not saying he's the same guy, but if you wanted a Diggs replacement, he's around the same basic size, speed, athleticism profile, and is a good route runner and gets separation as well. Hits all the marks on character, work ethic, etc. And they've shown tons of interest in this type of player at WR, too. Again, I've been wrong before. I'll probably be wrong Thursday night. But just based on the types of guys they've brought in for visits and that projected as early round picks the last two or three years, and even their higher profile FA/trade acquisitions including Diggs, McConkey seems like a clear favorite at 28 to me. Edited April 23 by Brandon 2 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted April 23 Posted April 23 I'd be happy with either. And hope the remaining player doesnt end up in KC. 15 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: I think a big knock on McConkey was his ability to fight through man coverage at the line. Thus he would play more in the slot at the next level. If you are playing the Diggs role then you are out there on an island and you need to be able to get off the line. I think he's best served in the slot. But agree to disagree I think you're both right. He's close to Diggs' skill set, except for the getting off the line part. 1 1 Quote
GerstAusGosheim Posted April 23 Posted April 23 What an unfortunate variation of the Irish surname, McConaghy. What an unfortunate variation of the Irish surname, McConaghy. What an unfortunate variation of the Irish surname, McConaghy. Quote
benderbender Posted April 23 Posted April 23 (edited) Joe Marino has talked me into Legette. McConkey sounds like something Shrek yells Edited April 23 by benderbender Quote
Motorin' Posted April 23 Posted April 23 1 minute ago, GerstAusGosheim said: What an unfortunate variation of the Irish surname, McConaghy. What an unfortunate variation of the Irish surname, McConaghy. What an unfortunate variation of the Irish surname, McConaghy. You can say that again! Quote
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