TSW Mock Draft 3.0 - Completed!

[MrEpsYtown]

36 minutes ago, Virgil said:

The Buffalo Bills select Brian Thomas, WR, LSU

 

***Trade Alert***
 

The Cardinals trade #27 and #71 to the Steelers for #20 and #119

 

The Cardinals @GunnerBill are on the clock

 

 

 

This guy compares him to Nico Collins.

 

 

[BuffaloBillyG]

2 hours ago, Virgil said:

10 minutes after the trade and no one has crucified me yet, I'm impressed.  Even still, I want to explain the logic here.

 

For starters, let me just say that the Bills pick was never meant to be mine to make decisions with and I have never done anything like that in my history of running these.

 

With that being said, the purpose of these mocks (besides having fun), is to see how different scenarios might play out.  We've already had one mock where we stayed put, one where we trade back, so I thought it was fitting to see what a trade up looked like.  For the trade, we didn't give up more than our extra 4th and the 2nd we got from the Texans.  

 

Also, we've had tons of polls about trading up, and more than half the board was in favor of it.

Based on all those things, I made the call to trade up.  I believe it to be an accurate reflection of the pulse of the board and the spirit of these mocks.  If you have an issue, please submit a 26 page eMail to my customer service to gugny'sfineass@kickrocks.com

If this was the trade that Beane made tomorrow I wouldn't be super excited. I'm not as big on Thomas as many here seem to be. But that's just personal opinion.

 

However, there is no argument that for a 4th and only one of the 2nds next year the value is there and would make a ton of sense. 

[Alphadawg7]

58 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

With the 20th pick in the 2024 TSW Mock Draft version 3.0, brought to you in association with @Virgil Sports and Media Enterprises, the Arizona Cardinals select:

 

Quinyon Mitchell, Cornerback, Toledo

 

I didn't necessarily plan to trade up here but watching the board as all those offensive tackles, quarterbacks, wide receivers and defensive linemen went it became very apparent to me that the value on the board was at corner - where it just so happens the Cardinals have a huge hole. They signed Sean Murphy-Bunting in free agency who is just about serviceable to play one side, but Starling Thomas V, a former UDFA out of UAB is the presumptive starter at the other spot. They need an upgrade. Mitchell is the top corner on my board and has the potential to develop into an elite corner in the NFL with his size, speed and competitiveness. Trading up 7 spots for him while swapping one of my three thirds for a fourth was a no-brainer. 

 

I think what is most interesting about this scenario is @Alphadawg7 did the Cardinals in v2.0, traded back at both picks and ended up with Odunze and Wiggins. I've stood pat at #4 and traded up and snagged Harrison and Mitchell. Both scenarios I think would make Arizona better immediately. Proof that there are multiple ways to play it and you have to let the way the board falls drive your decision making over and above getting fixated on players or positions. 

 

The aforementioned @Alphadawg7 and the Miami Dolphins are now on the clock.

 

Yeah both scenarios would be a great draft for Arizona...my only issue is with it is that I don't think Mitchell gets to the 20th pick.  

 

But the net of both our moves were a little more different:  In yours you got MHJ and Mitchell and have 2 thirds left and 1 fourth.  In mine, I got Odunze and Wiggins and have 5 thirds (4 of them early thirds) and two early 4th round picks.  And if that trade really happened between AZ and Giants, AZ likely gets more than what I took in that mock because of the bidding war will drive the price up for a QB.  

 

So I would still prefer to the trade backs if I am AZ, but either way, if the draft went the way it did for you, it would still be stellar and something they would be excited about.  

[GunnerBill]

Just now, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Yeah both scenarios would be a great draft for Arizona...my only issue is with it is that I don't think Mitchell gets to the 20th pick.  

 

But the net of both our moves were a little more different:  In yours you got MHJ and Mitchell and have 2 thirds left and 1 fourth.  In mine, I got Odunze and Wiggins and have 5 thirds (4 of them early thirds) and two early 4th round picks.  And if that trade really happened between AZ and Giants, AZ likely gets more than what I took in that mock because of the bidding war will drive the price up for a QB.  

 

So I would still prefer to the trade backs if I am AZ, but either way, if the draft went the way it did for you, it would still be stellar and something they would be excited about.  

 

They are in a no lose position because they trade back or they get Marvin Harrison (or possibly Nabers as some think they prefer him). If I were them I wouldn't do the Giants trade down. I'm only interested in getting a major haul to give up Harrison. But they may well decide otherwise. 

 

I also don't think Mitchell gets to #20 either. But half a chance Arnold might and I'd have been interested in him there too. Was more just an example of how you have to play the draft as it goes not as you think it will go. Because there are always surprises.

[Alphadawg7]

With the 21st pick in the 2024 NFL Draft, the Miami Dolphins select:  Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia

 

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Look, we are the fastest team in the NFL, but we also know our QB Tua is kind of a little soft princess where if he can't get to his early reads he turns back into a pumpkin.  All this speed means nothing if we can't get our soft as Charmin 1 read QB some time to throw the ball because if we have to rely on his improvisation skills one more season then all of us on the coaching staff and FO are gonna be trying to start OnlyFan foot fetish accounts next year to pay the bills.  Our DL is full of guys who may not start in the XFL, let alone start in the NFL, but all the guys we would consider here were off the board.  So the choice was easy to go get a mammoth of a man to protect our Oompa Lumpa of a QB so he has a chance to not suck and blow 4 game divisional leads late in the season and actually beat teams with a .500 or better record. 

 

@stinky fingerand the Philadelphia Piss Drunk Eagles are on the clock.  Here is comedian Artie Lange telling one of the funniest and best Eagles fan stories of all time for context:

 

 

 

 

Edited April 24 by Alphadawg7

[Alphadawg7]

13 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

They are in a no lose position because they trade back or they get Marvin Harrison (or possibly Nabers as some think they prefer him). If I were them I wouldn't do the Giants trade down. I'm only interested in getting a major haul to give up Harrison. But they may well decide otherwise. 

 

I also don't think Mitchell gets to #20 either. But half a chance Arnold might and I'd have been interested in him there too. Was more just an example of how you have to play the draft as it goes not as you think it will go. Because there are always surprises.

 

Yeah, totally agree. Honestly what AZ does at 4 starts to get impacted even with what Commanders do at 2 and then again with what NE does at 3.  Its 100% gonna come down how the draft falls at the top in how AZ handles their pick and how aggressive other teams are to get to their pick based on what QB gets there.  

 

Gonna be a fun draft, and I also agree on Arnold.  All in all, AZ IMHO is setup maybe the best of any team in this draft this year between where they pick and how many picks they have coming in that are in first 3 rounds.  

[stinky finger]

With the 22nd pick in the draft, the Philadelphia Eagles select Terrion Arnold, CB, Alabama

 

It was difficult maintaining patience. CB was a clear need and the best 2 were dropping. @GunnerBill had the wherewithal and foresight to jump up and grab the top CB prize in our eyes. 
 

that said…..
 

I pulled a hammy running to podium to make this selection. Did you see the secondary play last year? Yeah, nuff said. Arnold’s change of direction, speed and athleticism make him a no-brainer, plug and play addition. We look forward to Terrion blanketing the oppositions top wideouts for years to come. 
 

@H2o and The Minnesota Vikings are now on the clock

[H2o]

With the 23rd pick, in the 2024 NFL Draft, the Minnesota Vikings select........ Bo Nix, Quarterback, Oregon.

 

We like the value here after having picked up Byron Murphy II @ #11. Bo Nix has played a TON of college football, and has grown exponentially since arriving in Eugene. We also like having that 5th year option. He has 61 starts under his belt and 43 wins, with 22 of those wins coming over the last two seasons. In college he's thrown for 15,352 yards, 113 TD's, and 26 INT's. He's accounted for the 4th most TD's in NCAA history at 152. He got better every year in completion % and YPA. The last two seasons in Oregon have been outstanding. This past season where he was a Heisman finalist, he had 45 TD passes to 3, THREE, interceptions. This was to go along with a 77.2% completion rate. He has a strong arm, can make every throw on a football field, is smart, can look off the defense, knows when to take his check downs, goes through progressions, can buy himself time in the pocket, make off platform or on the run throws, is accurate to all levels of the field giving his guys the opportunity to get YAC, and is a threat to take off and run. The Lance Zierlien comp to Tony Romo is fairly accurate when you watch the two of them play, minus the mistakes with the football. Nix has matured as a QB and doesn't make those mistakes like he did at Auburn. I also see a bit of young Derek Carr in him. Both of the two, Romo and Carr, not bad QB's by any means. If you put him in an offense with Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, and TJ Hockenson? Yep, we think he will start from day one and surprise many while running our offense.

 

 

 

@Might Rather and the Dallas Cowboys are on the clock. 

 

 

Edited April 24 by H2o

[Might Rather]

With the 24th pick the Dallas Cowboys select Jackson Powers-Johnson, Center, Oregon. 

We are happy to have our guy still on the board. Powers-Johnson is a fierce competitor with a salty disposition. He doesn’t seem to have many issues in pass protection, as he works with clear eyes, a wide base. 

The Green Bay Packers @Virgil are on the clock. 

 

[Virgil]

With the 25th pick, the Green Bay Packers select Cooper DeJean, DB, Iowa.  

 

Green Bay has needs at DB and S, so we get the guy who can do both.

 

DeJean is a playmaker with the instincts, speed and natural hands to make plays in coverage and in the return game. He returned three of his five interceptions for touchdowns in 2022 and took back a punt for a touchdown in 2023. He has the length and burst to smother receivers underneath and recover when he gets caught out of position. DeJean is scheme- and position-versatile; he lined up outside, over the slot and at strong safety at Iowa.

 

The Bucs @RyanC883 are on the clock

[Virgil]

***Trade***

 

Washington trades #40 (500 pts) and next years 2nd (200ish pts) for Tampa's #26 (700 points)

 

Washington trades #36 (540 pts) and 2025 2nd rounder (200) to the Steelers for #27 (680) and #119 (56)

 

@mrags is on the clock for two consecutive picks

Edited April 24 by Virgil

[mrags]

*** trade alert ***

 

the Washington Commanders have traded up again. Moving into the next 2 spots with their ammo from Denver earlier in the draft process. 
 

they have traded for pick 40, and next years 2nd rounder (Washington) for pick 26. 
 

with the 26th pick in the 2024 NFL draft the Commanders select: Xavier Worthy, WR, Texas

 

And

 

they have traded pick 36 (540 pts) and next years 2nd (den) (200 pts)

For

27 (680 pts)

119 (56 pts)

 

and with the 27th pick in the 2024 NFL draft, the Washington Commanders select: Ladd McConkey, WR, Georgia

 

with these 2 picks, the Commanders have ensured WRs to pair with Terry McClauren for the foreseeable future, while ensuring 5th year options on both. Giving JJ McCarthy teammates to grow with. 
 

for this draft we have taken 

JJ McCarthy

Xavier Worthy

Ladd McConkey

 

and still have the following picks

67

76

78

119

136

139

147

152

222

 to bolster our offensive and defensive lines in a very deep, but not top heavy draft for the Trenches. All while keeping our extra 1st rounder next year from Denver. 

 

the LA Rams @MrEpsYtown are now on the clock 

Edited April 24 by mrags

[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, mrags said:

*** trade alert ***

 

the Washington Commanders have traded up again. Moving into the next 2 spots with their ammo from Denver earlier in the draft process. 
 

they have traded for pick 40, and next years 2nd rounder (Washington) for pick 26. 
 

with the 26th pick in the 2024 NFL draft the Commanders select: Xavier Worthy, WR, Texas

 

And

 

they have traded pick 36 (540 pts) and next years 2nd (den) (200 pts)

For

27 (680 pts)

119 (56 pts)

 

and with the 27th pick in the 2024 NFL draft, the Washington Commanders select: Ladd McConkey, WR, Georgia

 

with these 2 picks, the Commanders have ensured WRs to pair with Terry McClauren for the foreseeable future, while ensuring 5th year options on both. Giving JJ McCarthy teammates to grow with. 
 

for this draft we have taken 

JJ McCarthy

Xavier Worthy

Ladd McConkey

 

and still have the following picks

40

67

76

78

119

136

139

147

152

222

 to bolster our offensive and defensive lines in a very deep, but not top heavy draft for the Trenches. All while keeping our extra 1st rounder next year from Denver. 

 

the LA Rams @MrEpsYtown are now on the clock 

 

Virgil's post reads like you traded away pick #40?

[mrags]

1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Virgil's post reads like you traded away pick #40?

I did. Sorry. I edited it to take that out. Saw it after reading it 

[Virgil]

1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Virgil's post reads like you traded away pick #40?

 

Yeah, I think he had a typo.  The main page is updated for the picks and trades

[Big Blitz]

After The Bills jumped over us to take Thomas we knew what we wanted to do - trade back and get more picks.  We have a plan for now but also want to add capital for next years draft as we look to most likely be in on QB 

 

 

Steelers in this draft essentially

 

Traded

20

119

 

Received

36

71 

Broncos 2025 2nd Rounder 

 

We now have picks

 

36

51

71

84

98

178

195

 

Denver’s 2025 2nd Round pick

 

 

[GunnerBill]

23 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

After The Bills jumped over us to take Thomas we knew what we wanted to do - trade back and get more picks.  We have a plan for now but also want to add capital for next years draft as we look to most likely be in on QB 

 

 

I didn't know you were targeting Thomas when I offered the trade but it did cross my mind that you might have been. It was obvious he was going to win the Bills poll. If Thomas had been there you'd have taken him, right?

[MrEpsYtown]

After trading down with the Bills, with the 28th pick in the TSW Mock draft 3.0, the LA Rams select Chop Robinson, Edge, Penn State. 

 

The Rams need defensive help in the secondary, and they could use depth at the OL spot. There is a ton of OL guys left on the board, but I feel good about what might be there in round two. I seriously considered Xavier Worthy because he adds a different element to the offense that would make them almost unstoppable with Kupp and Nacua. Plus Les Sneadś kid was Worthyś teammate at Texas. But their biggest need is in the front line and the Rams need to get to the QB. Pass rush dried up really quick, so I considered Chop at 19 as well as Johnny Newton. Being the first time the Rams have selected in the first round in a long time I am taking the gamble and taking the boom or bust Chop. He has some elite first-step quickness and though he is raw, he could produce right away opposite Byron Young and next to Kobie Turner. At this point in the draft, I think it is really good value and the Rams have spent a lot of time with Chop. He is not my favorite prospect (undersized one-year wonder upside plays from PSU ain´t my jazz, but I do think this is something the Rams are likely to do). 

 

 

He gets dinged a bit for his size and length, but he is very athletic and fast and I think he is a good fit in the Rams style of defense. 

 

@frostbitmic and Detroit are now on the clock. 

Edited April 24 by MrEpsYtown

[Big Blitz]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I didn't know you were targeting Thomas when I offered the trade but it did cross my mind that you might have been. It was obvious he was going to win the Bills poll. If Thomas had been there you'd have taken him, right?

 

Yep.  

[stinky finger]

4 hours ago, Might Rather said:

With the 24th pick the Dallas Cowboys select Jackson Powers-Johnson, Center, Oregon. 

We are happy to have our guy still on the board. Powers-Johnson is a fierce competitor with a salty disposition. He doesn’t seem to have many issues in pass protection, as he works with clear eyes, a wide base. 

The Green Bay Packers @Virgil are on the clock. 

 

If Arnold wasn't available for the Iggles at 22, JPJ was under serious consideration.