NastyNateSoldiers Posted April 21 Posted April 21 15 hours ago, LEBills said: We now have 7 drafts in the books where McDermott has been involved in the draft and 6 with Beane. In those 7 years, the Bills have drafted 7 players from three different coaching trees which may provide a hint to targets in the 2024 draft: Billy Napier (Florida Gators) O’Cyrus Torrence - 2023 second round Justin Shorter - 2023 fifth round Kaiir Elam - 2022 first round Dave Aranda (LSU and Baylor) Terrel Bernard - 2022 third round Tre White - 2017 first round Manny Diaz (Miami and Penn State) Greg Rousseau - 2021 first round Jaquan Johnson - 2019 sixth round 2024 Draftable players from these coaches include - Billy Napier: Ricky Pearsall, WR, projected Day 2 - Pearsall transferred in Napiers first year at Florida from ASU. Put up excellent Senior Bowl and Combine performances and is getting a lot of hype as a top 50 player in the draft. Dave Aranda: Gabe Hall, DT, projected Day 3 - Hall is a tall, long DT. Rushes high do to his height and may be best as a 3-4 end. 2 time entrant in Dane Bruglers Freaks list. Manny Diaz: Kamren kinchens, S, Day 2 - Kinchens is a productive, ball hawking safety that started as a true Freshman in 2021. He recently tested poorly at the combine. James Williams, S/LB, Day 3 - A 6’4’’ safety who is better coming downhill and may need a change of position in the NFL Leonard Taylor, DT, Day 3 - all hype and talent with very little production (All three Hurricanes were recruited to Miami for Diaz’s final year in 2021 and all played as Freshmen.) Chop Robinson, DE, Round 1 - Explosive pass rusher that is learning to translate traits into production Adisa Isaac, DE, Round 2-3 - The more productive of the PSU edge defenders. Kalen king, CB, Day 3 - once thought to be the next star college corner, his play has tapered off and measurables are only average. Move to safety possible. Johnny Dixon, CB, Day 3 - small aggressive corner who likely will be a nickel cornerback in the NFL Curtis Jacobs LB, Day 3- a leader at Penn State, a bigger linebacker more suited against the run Any Buffalo Bills? Highest chance (imo): 1.) Kamren Kinchens - I think Kinchens is the most likely to match need and draft range. Kinchens really disappointed at the combine but just prior to Kinchens testing Beane was quoted as saying ‘“I think instincts are really big at safety. If you’re telling me, ‘you can have an athletic guy that’s a 4.3 (in the forty yard dash), 4.4 safety but he doesn’t have instincts,’ I’ll take the 4.6 guy with instincts, ball skills, and a little less range.”’ Kinchens has 11 interceptions in his past 2 collegiate years. We also just hired Jahmile Addae as our CB coach after he was Kinchens DB coach for the past two years. 2.) Adissa Isaac - Isaac fits the body type the Bills tend to like with long arms. He was a team captain this year and led the team in sacks in 2023. Also reported to be a good character player who does a lot for the special needs community of which all of his siblings belong. Bills were reported to have met with Isaac at his Pro Day where he had an excellent performance according to reports. PSU is considered a local school for the Bills and so if they do bring him in it does not count against the top 30 visits. https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/news-notes-2024-ucla-penn-state-pro-days-edge-rushers-shine-laiatu-latu-leads-way 3.) Ricky Pearsall - If the Bills do decide not to go WR at 28, Pearsall may be in play at 60. Though he did play in the slot about 60% of the time, McBeane may see a good WR4 candidate that can learn all the WR positions. In last years post draft conference, Beane joked about how he should get an office at UofF due to the amount of Florida players they picked up in the last two drafts. Final Thoughts: Though the Bills have drafted from these coaching trees pretty consistently, it does not happen every year (2018, 2020) so it may not happen this year. Also missing that third round pick may make it difficult for the Bills to have a chance at some of the prospects listed as many could be gone between pick 60 and 128. And the Bills have predominantly selected from these coaching trees in the first three rounds (5 of 7 pick). I do think it goes to show the Bills willingness to take chances on guys that may not exactly fit their past schemes (Elam, Torrence), or didn’t test too well (Rousseau, Johnson, Benford, Tre) when these players are tied to coaching staffs they trust. Adisa Isaac is on my please don't draft list! Chris Kelsey 2.0 he'll be a career 6sk a yr guy. Please DON'T DRAFT! 15 hours ago, LEBills said: We now have 7 drafts in the books where McDermott has been involved in the draft and 6 with Beane. In those 7 years, the Bills have drafted 7 players from three different coaching trees which may provide a hint to targets in the 2024 draft: Billy Napier (Florida Gators) O’Cyrus Torrence - 2023 second round Justin Shorter - 2023 fifth round Kaiir Elam - 2022 first round Dave Aranda (LSU and Baylor) Terrel Bernard - 2022 third round Tre White - 2017 first round Manny Diaz (Miami and Penn State) Greg Rousseau - 2021 first round Jaquan Johnson - 2019 sixth round 2024 Draftable players from these coaches include - Billy Napier: Ricky Pearsall, WR, projected Day 2 - Pearsall transferred in Napiers first year at Florida from ASU. Put up excellent Senior Bowl and Combine performances and is getting a lot of hype as a top 50 player in the draft. Dave Aranda: Gabe Hall, DT, projected Day 3 - Hall is a tall, long DT. Rushes high do to his height and may be best as a 3-4 end. 2 time entrant in Dane Bruglers Freaks list. Manny Diaz: Kamren kinchens, S, Day 2 - Kinchens is a productive, ball hawking safety that started as a true Freshman in 2021. He recently tested poorly at the combine. James Williams, S/LB, Day 3 - A 6’4’’ safety who is better coming downhill and may need a change of position in the NFL Leonard Taylor, DT, Day 3 - all hype and talent with very little production (All three Hurricanes were recruited to Miami for Diaz’s final year in 2021 and all played as Freshmen.) Chop Robinson, DE, Round 1 - Explosive pass rusher that is learning to translate traits into production Adisa Isaac, DE, Round 2-3 - The more productive of the PSU edge defenders. Kalen king, CB, Day 3 - once thought to be the next star college corner, his play has tapered off and measurables are only average. Move to safety possible. Johnny Dixon, CB, Day 3 - small aggressive corner who likely will be a nickel cornerback in the NFL Curtis Jacobs LB, Day 3- a leader at Penn State, a bigger linebacker more suited against the run Any Buffalo Bills? Highest chance (imo): 1.) Kamren Kinchens - I think Kinchens is the most likely to match need and draft range. Kinchens really disappointed at the combine but just prior to Kinchens testing Beane was quoted as saying ‘“I think instincts are really big at safety. If you’re telling me, ‘you can have an athletic guy that’s a 4.3 (in the forty yard dash), 4.4 safety but he doesn’t have instincts,’ I’ll take the 4.6 guy with instincts, ball skills, and a little less range.”’ Kinchens has 11 interceptions in his past 2 collegiate years. We also just hired Jahmile Addae as our CB coach after he was Kinchens DB coach for the past two years. 2.) Adissa Isaac - Isaac fits the body type the Bills tend to like with long arms. He was a team captain this year and led the team in sacks in 2023. Also reported to be a good character player who does a lot for the special needs community of which all of his siblings belong. Bills were reported to have met with Isaac at his Pro Day where he had an excellent performance according to reports. PSU is considered a local school for the Bills and so if they do bring him in it does not count against the top 30 visits. https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/news-notes-2024-ucla-penn-state-pro-days-edge-rushers-shine-laiatu-latu-leads-way 3.) Ricky Pearsall - If the Bills do decide not to go WR at 28, Pearsall may be in play at 60. Though he did play in the slot about 60% of the time, McBeane may see a good WR4 candidate that can learn all the WR positions. In last years post draft conference, Beane joked about how he should get an office at UofF due to the amount of Florida players they picked up in the last two drafts. Final Thoughts: Though the Bills have drafted from these coaching trees pretty consistently, it does not happen every year (2018, 2020) so it may not happen this year. Also missing that third round pick may make it difficult for the Bills to have a chance at some of the prospects listed as many could be gone between pick 60 and 128. And the Bills have predominantly selected from these coaching trees in the first three rounds (5 of 7 pick). I do think it goes to show the Bills willingness to take chances on guys that may not exactly fit their past schemes (Elam, Torrence), or didn’t test too well (Rousseau, Johnson, Benford, Tre) when these players are tied to coaching staffs they trust. The Bills have an infatuation with adding players whether threw the draft or free agency with having a connection to knowing said player. I know other teams do this but it seems like the Bills do this more then any other team. Mcd has trust issues no doubt about it Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 21 Posted April 21 McDermott listens to a guy that's pretty universally hated by Gators fans? Yikes Quote
CNYfan Posted April 21 Posted April 21 I predict either Mitchell or Legette at 28. If it is a trade back it will be Franklin. Quote
LEBills Posted April 21 Author Posted April 21 (edited) 9 hours ago, Big Blitz said: This is fantastic. And I couldn’t agree more. Only thing I’m wondering is how much the age matters to them. I love Pearsall. But he’s going to be 24 in September. Legette - love him. But he’s going to be 23. Not sure how much they consider this - I do think it depends on position. Kincaid was 22/23. But so was Antonio Gates. TEs traditionally need time tho. The age at WR I definitely think they consider it. Thank you, Beane actually addressed this in his post draft presser last year because he was asked about Kincaid and Torrence being older. He basically said that you like it if the guys are younger but that you are just looking for good football players in the end of the day. If I had to guess the more refined Pearsall fits what the Bills will look for more than Legette, though I am much lower on Legette than other Bills fans so it may be my bias. 2 hours ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: Adisa Isaac is on my please don't draft list! Chris Kelsey 2.0 he'll be a career 6sk a yr guy. Please DON'T DRAFT! The Bills have an infatuation with adding players whether threw the draft or free agency with having a connection to knowing said player. I know other teams do this but it seems like the Bills do this more then any other team. Mcd has trust issues no doubt about it Yea definitely not saying this is what I would do as I’m not particularly high on Isaac, Kinchens or Pearsall. But for better and worse Beane usually doesn’t do what I want him to do lol. I do think it makes sense they like players they have connections with. I know if I got a job applicant who gave a reference of someone I knew and trust, I’d feel more comfortable I was getting a good employee if that reference gave a good recommendation. 15 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: McDermott listens to a guy that's pretty universally hated by Gators fans? Yikes Haha yeaaaa, I feel the same way (tho technically it’s Beane not McD as far as I know). Why not invite Kirby Smart to your next BBQ instead Brandon? tho I guess Howie Roseman already has that market cornered. Edited April 21 by LEBills Quote
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