Tipster19 Posted April 19 Posted April 19 After hearing Old Beane talking in his PC it doesn’t strike me as a guy who is looking to be over aggressive in the draft. If he does seem to settle for a 2nd/3rd tier as he indicates then I would think a veteran would be helpful as a safety net. At one point Robinson had some decent value but has fallen off in the last few years. Is he a product of getting lost in the shuffle and/or landing up with inexperienced/journeymen (Pittsburgh) QBs? I dunno know if any of that is applicable but I do think that if Beane settles for somebody like McConkey then adding a veteran would hold some value for this offense. 2 1 6 Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted April 19 Posted April 19 1 minute ago, Tipster19 said: After hearing Old Beane talking in his PC it doesn’t strike me as a guy who is looking to be over aggressive in the draft. If he does seem to settle for a 2nd/3rd tier as he indicates then I would think a veteran would be helpful as a safety net. At one point Robinson had some decent value but has fallen off in the last few years. Is he a product of getting lost in the shuffle and/or landing up with inexperienced/journeymen (Pittsburgh) QBs? I dunno know if any of that is applicable but I do think that if Beane settles for somebody like McConkey then adding a veteran would hold some value for this offense. Downvoted but nothing personal. He's just THAT washed. He's so washed the last time I saw him on TV he was talking about his game in the past tense. Bones on the beach washed. 8 Quote
H2o Posted April 19 Posted April 19 Nope. If Sean McVay couldn't get anything out of him 2 years ago, no one else will now. He's done. 4 Quote
Tipster19 Posted April 19 Author Posted April 19 I understand but boy oh boy a few years back this guy was making incredible catches. I still think if Beane doesn’t make WR a huge priority in the draft then he better bring in some kind of experienced WRs to add to this group. I saw somebody mention OBJ which would be great but not if he’s looking for big money. 1 1 Quote
BuffAlone Posted April 19 Posted April 19 I think he's toast. And was never great to begin with. If he was Jerry Rice at the end of his career,take a shot. But a WR who was Never great in his career,nah. Also,I'm not sure "settle" is the right description for McConkey. I think he'll be a good/solid player in the league for many years. Just not sure that equates to a first rd pick,at least for us, considering his fit at this time with our current roster 1 Quote
Tipster19 Posted April 19 Author Posted April 19 24 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: I think he's toast. And was never great to begin with. If he was Jerry Rice at the end of his career,take a shot. But a WR who was Never great in his career,nah. Also,I'm not sure "settle" is the right description for McConkey. I think he'll be a good/solid player in the league for many years. Just not sure that equates to a first rd pick,at least for us, considering his fit at this time with our current roster I didn’t intend to throw any shade on McConkey, I misspoke there. I was really hoping and looking forward for Beane to find a way to draft Brian Thomas Jr but at this point I’m getting the feeling that is probably just a pipe dream. I wouldn’t be unhappy if Beane does end up just taking McConkey. Quote
billsbackto81 Posted April 19 Posted April 19 (edited) This is the equivalent of signing Allen Robinson. Dude is burnt toast.... Edited April 19 by billsbackto81 3 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted April 19 Posted April 19 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: Downvoted but nothing personal. He's just THAT washed. He's so washed the last time I saw him on TV he was talking about his game in the past tense. Bones on the beach washed. Spot on. This ☝️ Quote
BuffAlone Posted April 19 Posted April 19 1 hour ago, Tipster19 said: I didn’t intend to throw any shade on McConkey, I misspoke there. I was really hoping and looking forward for Beane to find a way to draft Brian Thomas Jr but at this point I’m getting the feeling that is probably just a pipe dream. I wouldn’t be unhappy if Beane does end up just taking McConkey. I gotcha bud. I'm in the same frame of mind. But I really do like McConkey. I just wonder how many "slot" WRs we can truly use and thrive. A lack of diversity might bite us in the ass eventually. I guess we'll find out soon enough👍 Quote
Beck Water Posted April 19 Posted April 19 2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Downvoted but nothing personal. He's just THAT washed. He's so washed the last time I saw him on TV he was talking about his game in the past tense. Bones on the beach washed. What do you know about DJ Chark? Of the FA still available, he and Hunter Renfrew interest me the most, but from what others have told me Renfrew is most productive as a slot (so I think he duplicates Samuel and Shakir). Chark: -had 1000+ yd season with Minshew and Foles throwing to him, 700 yds when it was Minshew and Glennon -fell off the map under Urban Meyer and Darrell Bevell -has had 2 ok-ish 30 catch, 500 yd seasons since with DET and CAR -last 2 seasons average 17 and 15 Y/R, but he doesn't seem to be a deep guy - it's 12 YBC and 4 YAC, so maybe more of an intermediate/short guy? I really haven't watched the guy play, interest just based on the fact that he had shown a couple good seasons and a couple OK seasons, and he's not an antique (27), Quote
Wizard Posted April 19 Posted April 19 If he is the 2nd receiver, we draft, I am okay with McConkey. He is well-rounded and should be a good player. I just believe based off of tape and physical measurables that Allen can get these guys to a higher level: Thomas, Mitchell, or Legette. And, as others have said, McConkey seems to be a repetition of what we already have as far as targets for a slot receiver (Shakir) and more of a slot type TE in Kincaid. Quote
aristocrat Posted April 19 Posted April 19 Dj Chark is a free agent I’d go after. Give him an actual qb and he can replace gabe. Just get that number one in the first round Quote
Beck Water Posted April 19 Posted April 19 1 hour ago, Tipster19 said: I didn’t intend to throw any shade on McConkey, I misspoke there. I was really hoping and looking forward for Beane to find a way to draft Brian Thomas Jr but at this point I’m getting the feeling that is probably just a pipe dream. I wouldn’t be unhappy if Beane does end up just taking McConkey. I don't think we have any clue as to what Beane will do, honestly. He left the strong impression that he's not enthused about giving up what he'd have to to move into the top 10, but he didn't rule it out, either. And he may not have to - in 2020, for example, when people were predicting IIRC that receivers would go high and 2 were projected to go in the top 10 by several boards, the 6 who were drafted in the 1st round were scattered from pick 12 to pick 25. The best 2 were arguably the 3rd and 5th drafted. 2 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted April 19 Posted April 19 He averaged 2 catches and 20 yards more per game than me last year. The good news is that we caught the same amount of TDs on the season. Is this a serious question? That guy sucks. He’s done. Of course he isn’t worth a roster spot. 3 Quote
Chicken Boo Posted April 19 Posted April 19 I was so big on Robinson at one point, but he's done now. Add him to the list of great talents like Greg Jennings and Kenny Golladay, that sacrificed their prime years for money. Oh, what could have been... Quote
Turbo44 Posted April 19 Posted April 19 35 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: I gotcha bud. I'm in the same frame of mind. But I really do like McConkey. I just wonder how many "slot" WRs we can truly use and thrive. A lack of diversity might bite us in the ass eventually. I guess we'll find out soon enough👍 Ladd lined up at slot very little in college. He line up outside >70% of the time. Ladd, Shakir, and Kinkaid playing off each other would be great. Josh isn’t an anticipation thrower, he throws when he sees someone open. Nobody separates better than Ladd in this draft, including the big 3. His yac is great too. Weakness is getting away form bump and run, but that can be aleviated through motion. 1 Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted April 19 Posted April 19 No.. its all about the rookies now.. And yes.. I think we double dip on Wr's 1. in the 1st and one in the 4th. Quote
billsfan89 Posted April 19 Posted April 19 You could do worse than Robinson as far as kicking the tires on a player but greater than 95% chance he is washed. He's not had a productive season since his very good 2020 season. He's been on 3 teams since 2020 and while he's not ancient at just 31 years old he is not young either. He also comes with a big injury history. My only optimistic case for him would be that he is coming off a fairly healthy season and at age 31 he may have a year left in the tank, plus as a camp body for the minimum deal you could do way worse. I would also say that while his numbers were garbage in 2023 despite staying healthy and starting 17 games, he was mired in a really bad Steelers offense with bad QB's and not the best schemes. Maybe if he is better health wise and in a better passing attack he can rebound? I doubt it, but like I said you are brining him in to be a camp body and maybe a PS vet. Quote
section122 Posted April 19 Posted April 19 He quit on the bears. I never want a player like that on the Bills. Quote
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