Media Day at OBD (Beane, McDermott, Josh & more)

[The Wiz]

1 minute ago, LabattBlue said:

So what two word text is forthcoming a week from tonight?

Wide Receiver

[SCBills]

Just now, GoBills808 said:

Do you mean the Green Bay method that wasted Rodgers career or the one w Matt Lafluer designing the offense

 

I have trust that Allen can light it up with 4 good WR's, a solid OL, talented RB and potentially elite Tight End. 

 

In saying I don't believe we need a bona fide WR1, I'm still saying we need to draft one in the first two rounds and then another by early RD4 or in FA when the Tre White money opens up. 

[Logic]

6 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I'm honestly starting to really come around on the Green Bay method for our Offense.  Especially with Kincaid set to take on a bigger role moving forward.  

 

Still think we need two above average receivers added to this roster, but I'm not as sold that one of them needs to be a bona fide WR1. 

Yep. 

If this is the route they're going, I hope they at least draft a couple receivers. I'm fine with volume over a classic "WR1", if that's what they wanna do, but...this receiving corps needs not one, but TWO talented youngsters added to it for that to work, IMO.

Rookie
Samuel
Shakir
Rookie

Hollins
Shorter/Hamler/etc

[GoBills808]

8 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

I have trust that Allen can light it up with 4 good WR's, a solid OL, talented RB and potentially elite Tight End. 

 

In saying I don't believe we need a bona fide WR1, I'm still saying we need to draft one in the first two rounds and then another by early RD4 or in FA when the Tre White money opens up. 

Ok and I'm saying I think that's a bad idea

[PrimeTime101]

So WR is not a glaring hole? Smoke Screen right from moment one... Did not need to listen to Beane any more...

 

[Royale with Cheese]

11 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

I have trust that Allen can light it up with 4 good WR's, a solid OL, talented RB and potentially elite Tight End. 

 

In saying I don't believe we need a bona fide WR1, I'm still saying we need to draft one in the first two rounds and then another by early RD4 or in FA when the Tre White money opens up. 

 

I think the way it could work is if we don't have a bonafide #1, we need at least a big deep threat.  Kincaid becomes our target leader.

 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

28 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I'm honestly starting to really come around on the Green Bay method for our Offense.  Especially with Kincaid set to take on a bigger role moving forward.  

 

Still think we need two above average receivers added to this roster, but I'm not as sold that one of them needs to be a bona fide WR1. 

Can you explain what the Green Bay Method is?

 

And if it is as ineffective as the rhythm method I want no part of it....

 

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

25 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Wide Receiver

I really hope it's not Chop Robinson.

[MikePJ76]

Josh Handled the questions really well.  

 

I think this will all go away sooner than people think because of Josh's demeanor.

[julian]

33 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

So what two word text is forthcoming a week from tonight?

Rome Nabers

[Fr. Jerk]

Did they talk about the playoffs?

 

[MrEpsYtown]

It's probably posturing, but I have been saying the whole number 1 receiver thing is extremely overblown in today's offenses, especially this scheme which is designed on concepts and spreading the ball around. It would be nice to have a guy like Jefferson or Chase, but you don't have to force the issue for a guy in this draft. 

[Logic]

2 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

It's probably posturing, but I have been saying the whole number 1 receiver thing is extremely overblown in today's offenses, especially this scheme which is designed on concepts and spreading the ball around. It would be nice to have a guy like Jefferson or Chase, but you don't have to force the issue for a guy in this draft. 

Yeah, I think the Packers showed this last year, and honestly, the Chiefs have been showing it to some extent, too.

Saying you don't need an old school WR1 is not saying you don't still need good receivers. You do. Down the stretch last year, Jayden Reed became Love's de facto number 1, and Rashee Rice became Mahomes'. Or even look at Amon Ra St Brown on the Lions. None of the three of those guys would fit the old school definition of an NFL WR1. If anything, they're all dependable, chain-moving slot specialists that the QB can look to on third down.

The point is, if you have a plethora of good options, you can succeed on offense in this league. You don't necessarily need one GREAT option.

[uticaclub]

51 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I'm honestly starting to really come around on the Green Bay method for our Offense.  Especially with Kincaid set to take on a bigger role moving forward.  

 

Still think we need two above average receivers added to this roster, but I'm not as sold that one of them needs to be a bona fide WR1. 

Davante Adams, Donald Driver, Jordy Nelson, Greg Jennings. They have always had a #1 guy, they aren’t always found in the first round. They draft a bunch of guys and hope one breaks out

[HappyDays]

51 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Still think we need two above average receivers added to this roster, but I'm not as sold that one of them needs to be a bona fide WR1. 

 

I don't know, every Super Bowl participant for the last like 10 years has had an elite pass catcher. Seems like a prerequisite. I don't think it's fair to expect a rookie WR to be elite right off the bat though so we'll have to try and make do. Drafting two WRs with physical traits high would maximize our chances.

[billsfan89]

1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said:

It's probably posturing, but I have been saying the whole number 1 receiver thing is extremely overblown in today's offenses, especially this scheme which is designed on concepts and spreading the ball around. It would be nice to have a guy like Jefferson or Chase, but you don't have to force the issue for a guy in this draft. 

I still think you need a dynamic receiving option that draws double teams and attention and can make plays regularly. But the Bills can work around not having Diggs by utilizing Kincaid as the primary receiver and then spreading the ball around to Shakir, Samuel, Knox, Cook, a rookie drafted highly and the supplemental players like Hollins, Ty Johnson and Shorter.

 

I think you need two WR’s in the draft. One drafted up high to play the boundary consistently and absorb 70-80 targets efficiently and one got depth that can be drafted in rounds 4-5.  I don’t think you need to draft a WR at 28 and 60 because Shakir is only a WR3 and Samuel is a gadget WR4. 

[uticaclub]

51 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

 

Process:

 

 

Result:

 

 

Yeah, ya got a point.

Until we play a Top 4 seed in the playoffs

[The Firebaugh Kid]

39 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Can you explain what the Green Bay Method is?

 

And if it is as ineffective as the rhythm method I want no part of it....

 

My wife made me attend birthing classes for our daughter for something called the "Bradley method". 

Biggest waste of money ever. 

It basically means that the man stands there the whole twelve hours she's in labor an applies an icepack to her spine while she groans. 

Nothing but respect for women and the birthing process, but I want my $600 back. This could've literally been an email. 

So dumb.

[HappyDays]

20 minutes ago, Logic said:

You don't necessarily need one GREAT option.

 

To win games sure, but to make it to (and win) the Super Bowl you almost certainly need at least one great option. As has been the case for every Super Bowl team going back at least a decade.

 

Our best hope on that front is that Kincaid becomes a great pass catcher. Last year down the stretch he was a good pass catcher. If he becomes a high efficiency 100+ target pass catcher we can have a championship caliber offense. That or one of our rookie WRs hits the ground running which isn't inconceivable, other teams have gotten elite production out of rookies in recent years although it's rare.

[CNYfan]

I am fine with a small trade back.  I believe that using most of draft picks and picking up a 3rd or fourth in a trade back will serve the Bills best in the coming years.