r henderson Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 rd. Trade the this 28th and our 2025 2nd to Jax for their 17th and draft Brian Thomas Jr. LSU WR. No surprise here. 2 rd. 60th Jermaine Burton Alabama WR. Numbers don’t jump out because of bad quarterback play. 6 feet 196 pounds with 4.45 forty speed. 38 inch vertical 11 foot broad jump. Excellent downfield receiver. Particularly on the sidelines. 4 rd. 128th Braelon Allen Wisconsin RB. 6 foot and 1 inch and 235 pounds of muscle. Bruising back who would be a very good compliment to James Cook. Also ran a 4.40 forty at the combine typical workhorse Wisconsin running back style. 4 rd. 132nd Tykee Smith university of Georgia safety. Doesn’t have ideal height at 5 foot 10 but has a solid built weighing in at 206 pounds. Ran a 4.46 forty at the combine. Recorded for an interceptions and a senior year at Georgia. The rest of the draft picks might be used for trade ups or just best player available at this point. I thought about using the second round from this year, the third round from next year and the fourth round for this year to trade up to the end of the first for Troy Franklin, but thought against it. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Id be very happy if this happens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) Burton doesn’t seem to be their type… Edited April 17 by Aussie Joe 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) 2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Burton doesn’t seem to be their type… 2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Burton doesn’t seem to be their type… I agree, but I’d be really happy with him in rd 2. He’s very intriguing to me. Playing with 17 would be incredible for him. Not a fan of drafting zero DL or OL in the first 4 rounds. I think there’s little chance of Allen falling to 128. Edited April 18 by NewEra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 3 hours ago, r henderson said: 1 rd. Trade the this 28th and our 2025 2nd to Jax for their 17th and draft Brian Thomas Jr. LSU WR. No surprise here. 2 rd. 60th Jermaine Burton Alabama WR. Numbers don’t jump out because of bad quarterback play. 6 feet 196 pounds with 4.45 forty speed. 38 inch vertical 11 foot broad jump. Excellent downfield receiver. Particularly on the sidelines. 4 rd. 128th Braelon Allen Wisconsin RB. 6 foot and 1 inch and 235 pounds of muscle. Bruising back who would be a very good compliment to James Cook. Also ran a 4.40 forty at the combine typical workhorse Wisconsin running back style. 4 rd. 132nd Tykee Smith university of Georgia safety. Doesn’t have ideal height at 5 foot 10 but has a solid built weighing in at 206 pounds. Ran a 4.46 forty at the combine. Recorded for an interceptions and a senior year at Georgia. The rest of the draft picks might be used for trade ups or just best player available at this point. I thought about using the second round from this year, the third round from next year and the fourth round for this year to trade up to the end of the first for Troy Franklin, but thought against it. I don't think our 2nd next year is enough to get to get from 28 to 17. And if Thomas makes it to the Jaguars, the Jaguars are probably just going to take him. The feeling around Thomas is that we'd have to get ahead of the Jaguars to ensure him. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 28 and a late 2nd next year doesn't get you close to 17. Though I would trade more to move up to 17 if Thomas II makes it to 17 Burton is a bad person, off many boards, probably off Buffalo's board 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Burton is off many teams boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 16 minutes ago, Beast said: Burton is off many teams boards. https://sportsnaut.com/jermaine-burton-nfl-draft-concern/ 6 schools in 8 years. No thanks. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Trading up in this rich WR draft for a kid that is as raw as they come is a terrible move We need to infuse this team with more talent, and we need to give Josh someone to help him out immediately A trade up for Thomas II would take away precious draft capital, and he wouldn't be a reliable weapon until he develops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsClinton Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 1 hour ago, BeastMaster said: Trading up in this rich WR draft for a kid that is as raw as they come is a terrible move We need to infuse this team with more talent, and we need to give Josh someone to help him out immediately A trade up for Thomas II would take away precious draft capital, and he wouldn't be a reliable weapon until he develops I think most pundits would agree that BTJ has a lot of room to develop, but he literally scored 17 TD in the SEC, against corners that will be drafted into the NFL. Not sure I agree with this take. He is way more pro-ready than you think. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 5 hours ago, r henderson said: 1 rd. Trade the this 28th and our 2025 2nd to Jax for their 17th and draft Brian Thomas Jr. LSU WR. No surprise here. 2 rd. 60th Jermaine Burton Alabama WR. Numbers don’t jump out because of bad quarterback play. 6 feet 196 pounds with 4.45 forty speed. 38 inch vertical 11 foot broad jump. Excellent downfield receiver. Particularly on the sidelines. 4 rd. 128th Braelon Allen Wisconsin RB. 6 foot and 1 inch and 235 pounds of muscle. Bruising back who would be a very good compliment to James Cook. Also ran a 4.40 forty at the combine typical workhorse Wisconsin running back style. 4 rd. 132nd Tykee Smith university of Georgia safety. Doesn’t have ideal height at 5 foot 10 but has a solid built weighing in at 206 pounds. Ran a 4.46 forty at the combine. Recorded for an interceptions and a senior year at Georgia. The rest of the draft picks might be used for trade ups or just best player available at this point. I thought about using the second round from this year, the third round from next year and the fourth round for this year to trade up to the end of the first for Troy Franklin, but thought against it. I’d bet a lot of $$$ Burton isn’t on our board 47 minutes ago, BillsClinton said: I think most pundits would agree that BTJ has a lot of room to develop, but he literally scored 17 TD in the SEC, against corners that will be drafted into the NFL. Not sure I agree with this take. He is way more pro-ready than you think. this + pretty much every starting LSU WR has made it BIG TIME in the NFL recently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostwriter Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 2 hours ago, Turbo44 said: 28 and a late 2nd next year doesn't get you close to 17. Though I would trade more to move up to 17 if Thomas II makes it to 17 Burton is a bad person, off many boards, probably off Buffalo's board I think #28, next years 2nd and this years 4th would get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 40 minutes ago, BillsClinton said: I think most pundits would agree that BTJ has a lot of room to develop, but he literally scored 17 TD in the SEC, against corners that will be drafted into the NFL. Not sure I agree with this take. He is way more pro-ready than you think. Jayden Daniels with Nabers drawing the best corner with safety help. The film shows alot of him being wide open or catching a screen pass that he turned into a big gainer. I will say this...he's an unknown...which means boom or bust. There's things he has in his favor, and things he has going against him. I could live with drafting him at 28, but I can't get on board with giving up a 2nd rounder to move up for him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalostu2 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Maybe I am scorned from the back to back DE picks resulting in Boogie Bashom, but I just don't like back to back positional picks. There are only so many footballs to go around. Burton in the second round would become, best case and most likely scenario, the sixth best option to the get the ball to in our offense. I can't help but think we could find someone later in the draft for that spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospector Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 16 hours ago, dave mcbride said: https://sportsnaut.com/jermaine-burton-nfl-draft-concern/ 6 schools in 8 years. No thanks. Better than 8 schools in 6 years 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 14 hours ago, Victory Formation said: I think #28, next years 2nd and this years 4th would get it done. I dont think so. Draft charts I'm looking at have #17 as 950 and our #28 as 660. Our highest fourth this year #128 is worth 44. Rule of thumb is subtract around for future picks so the best next years second could be valued at is 265. Thats just enough to get it done but pick 91 (what wouldve been our third) is only worth 135 which would be well short of whats needed. I suspect Jax would value our 2nd more like pick 91 though maybe vikings 2nd we have now could get it done. https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp?RequestTeam=buf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 2 hours ago, buffalostu2 said: Maybe I am scorned from the back to back DE picks resulting in Boogie Bashom, but I just don't like back to back positional picks. There are only so many footballs to go around. Burton in the second round would become, best case and most likely scenario, the sixth best option to the get the ball to in our offense. I can't help but think we could find someone later in the draft for that spot. You really think that Burton and his talent (off field issues aside) that he wouldn’t be above guys like Hollins or Shorter on this team? The kid has some serious talent. He will be a player in this league not some backup Joe assuming he gets his head on straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 33 minutes ago, Prospector said: Better than 8 schools in 6 years True! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 2 hours ago, buffalostu2 said: Maybe I am scorned from the back to back DE picks resulting in Boogie Bashom, but I just don't like back to back positional picks. There are only so many footballs to go around. Burton in the second round would become, best case and most likely scenario, the sixth best option to the get the ball to in our offense. I can't help but think we could find someone later in the draft for that spot. They've lost 241 targets to the two starters and about 285 targets total at the WR spot. Curtis Samuel will take up some of the slack, and they probably won't do it, but there's plenty of passes to go around for two more at 28 and 60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantha Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 21 hours ago, r henderson said: 1 rd. Trade the this 28th and our 2025 2nd to Jax for their 17th and draft Brian Thomas Jr. LSU WR. No surprise here. 2 rd. 60th Jermaine Burton Alabama WR. Numbers don’t jump out because of bad quarterback play. 6 feet 196 pounds with 4.45 forty speed. 38 inch vertical 11 foot broad jump. Excellent downfield receiver. Particularly on the sidelines. 4 rd. 128th Braelon Allen Wisconsin RB. 6 foot and 1 inch and 235 pounds of muscle. Bruising back who would be a very good compliment to James Cook. Also ran a 4.40 forty at the combine typical workhorse Wisconsin running back style. 4 rd. 132nd Tykee Smith university of Georgia safety. Doesn’t have ideal height at 5 foot 10 but has a solid built weighing in at 206 pounds. Ran a 4.46 forty at the combine. Recorded for an interceptions and a senior year at Georgia. The rest of the draft picks might be used for trade ups or just best player available at this point. I thought about using the second round from this year, the third round from next year and the fourth round for this year to trade up to the end of the first for Troy Franklin, but thought against it. Good draft. I’d use the rest of the draft to try to find a pass rusher, OC, and DT. Maybe a linebacker but his group is weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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